Halo 2 hits 6.4 million units worldwide

Hmm. Well that means Halo 1 and 2 COMBINED have still sold less then Just GTA: Vice city on PS2 (14 million), and now up to almost one fifth of Super Mario Bros (66 million)

Just where are the 'records'? It's only a record for them, in their (world) #3 placed console.

Check out the sales charts, there were only 2 weeks when Halo 2 was even on the top of the charts in the USA.

Jeez, Super Smash Bros Melee has sold (almost) as many as Halo, and there are 15 PS2 games that have sold more then either.

I Hate PR garbage.

Is that here, or worldwide? If it's here, that's because we're morons. If it's worldwide, that's a damn shame. It really is the best game of 2004 IMO. Much more organic then MP1, which was the GOTY 2002 (or 2003 in PAL).

I don't try to hide that. There's only 2 ways to look at xbox's loss of US$3 billion so far. 1. Bad buisness that is bad for the industry (that is: a $3 billion loss is a massive, massive failure) 2. A more sinister motive to buy an industry out from under those who created it (that is, ruining it with the attitude 'if I can't profit from it, damn them no-one will')

However, the word 'record' was used generically, implying that it's a record for anyone, not just for #3 them.

Apparently the only figures that show xbox ahead of Gamecube are microsofts. Every (independant and otherwise) report I've read describes the xb as 'out of the race for #2 worldwide' because of it's dismal sales in Japan, the world's second biggest market.

Also, Nintendo seems the only company not to be lying (this generation):

For example: system power. The official figures for Gamecube polygon count is 15 million a second, which was surpassed in a launch game (Rouge Leader - 16 million fully textured bump mapped polys at 60fps) and has now been smashed by it's sequel (around 20 million p/s at 60fps)

What are the xb official specs? It was like, 100 million polys/sec, right? Well unless it's sequel beat it, the record number of fully textured polys in an xb game was for rallysport challenge, which only did 9 million/sec at 30fps

Even the PS2 has had games with more polys then the xb (Jak 2 broke 10 million, for example)

I'm not saying polys are everything in graphics, just that microsoft's figures are outrageous lies.

And so are their hardware sales figures.

But there's no proof. They were at least a million behind at the start of 2004, and the GC sold a lot in the US when the price dropped at the start of the year and in Japan when certain games came out (eg paper mario). The closest thing I could find is that all the annalysts say "xb and gc are battling it out for second place" - which is a far cry from the impression microsoft and all their ads has brainwahed everyone to think (that xb is "way ahead of GC and rivalling PS2", which is clearly rubbish)

huh? you mean edit? where is the option? (I looked for it)?