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Chris Leigh
25 Mar, 2006

Xbox 360 hack is "useless"

360 News | Says hacker himself.
A few days back, we reported on how a group of hackers succeeded in getting a pirate copy of Project Gotham Racing 3 running on a hacked Xbox 360, and subsequently released a video of the game booting as proof of their achievement. Alas, the hack has now been dubbed 'useless', not only by Microsoft (as you'd expect), but also by one of the individuals behind the hack.

Microsoft was the first out of the blocks to deny that its machine had been successfully hacked. In a statement posted on Gamerscoreblog, a page run by Xbox employees, Microsoft promised that it would be looking to counteract security threats with software updates, after it was revealed the hackers had modified the DVD drive firmware in order to get their "hack" to work.

Unusually, the hackers themselves agreed that their find was ultimately useless, as one of the hackers - nicknamed "Robinsod" - admitted in an interview with Xboxic: "We will not be releasing a hack, we won't sell it and no-one from Microsoft has approached me either to pay me off or shut me up with legal threats," he said, not furtively looking over his shoulder at a black car with tinted windows parked down the street behind him. "I want to polish this hack a little more for my own satisfaction and then I will consider it done. All the information needed to implement this hack is available and I have no interest in doing further research."

"This hack is useless to the public in its current form, it has not been 'weaponised' and currently requires that the flash chip is removed from the drive circuit board and inserted into a special flash programming device. And I want to stress that if you don't know what you’re doing you can easily destroy your 360 - don't do it."

For now then, it appears as if Microsoft's claim that the Xbox 360's security is its best yet has stood up. Though that doesn't mean that hacking the 360 will always prove an insurmountable task, something that Robinsod agrees with: "Given the complexity of the software (and MS's reputation for secure software) it seems unlikely that there's no way in."

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15 Comments
7 years ago
Chris-Leigh wrote
...he said, not furtively looking over his shoulder at a black car with tinted windows parked down the street behind him...
You just made that up yourself didn't you? icon_wink.gif
7 years ago
Maybe.
7 years ago
lol. goof. Wonder Whos Been on the Specialists case? icon_lol.gif .
7 years ago
More like useless for the time being. All MS products are easier to hack compare to others, I just don't think XBox360 can be an exception.
7 years ago
k1dcharm wrote
More like useless for the time being. All MS products are easier to hack compare to others, I just don't think XBox360 can be an exception.
Not true. You put Mac OSX or Linux under the same attention as Windows gets and you see how long they last. People who want to cause trouble always go for the highest common denominator. Windows is the most used OS in the world by a large margin, and lots of people don't like Bill Gates. Just wait till the PS3 lands, we'll see how long it takes for it to crack under pressure, sometimes it's no fun being the number one.
7 years ago
lol icon_lol.gif This whole thing is pretty amusing, should have seen this coming, I don;t think it's useless, only for now. In the future? Who knows?
7 years ago
nikack wrote
k1dcharm wrote
More like useless for the time being. All MS products are easier to hack compare to others, I just don't think XBox360 can be an exception.
Not true. You put Mac OSX or Linux under the same attention as Windows gets and you see how long they last. People who want to cause trouble always go for the highest common denominator. Windows is the most used OS in the world by a large margin, and lots of people don't like Bill Gates. Just wait till the PS3 lands, we'll see how long it takes for it to crack under pressure, sometimes it's no fun being the number one.
That still doesn't deny the fact that MS products are easier to hack.
7 years ago
k1dcharm wrote
That still doesn't deny the fact that MS products are easier to hack.
It does though. It's a whole lot easier to 'hack' something that you have the source code for, eg Linux. It's like saying a large vault in the middle of a room is easier to crack then a small one in the corner, simply because you can see the larger vault more easily.

Would anyone have the numbers as to how long it took for the other consoles to be 'hacked'?
7 years ago
nikack wrote
Would anyone have the numbers as to how long it took for the other consoles to be 'hacked'?
Usually 6 months or so on average for consoles that use familiar storage media (CD, DVD, etc.).
Whenever custom storage media/hardware is involved (GC disc size, PSP umd, etc.) it makes it all the more difficult to circumvent.
A 360 chip is likely to appear when HD-DVD burners are widely available (it will be worthwhile spending money to make it happen at that point, because a return is almost guaranteed).

Disclaimer: I do not support piracy. Except for Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Carribbean.
7 years ago
The drive in the 360 is a vanilla dual layer drive- the media is not the problem here it is the *very* advanced cryptography involved, and will take at least another 6 months before it is cracked.
(or however long it takes)
7 years ago
--alex-- wrote
The drive in the 360 is a vanilla dual layer drive- the media is not the problem here it is the *very* advanced cryptography involved, and will take at least another 6 months before it is cracked.
(or however long it takes)
So they need that Cryptologist from The Da Vinci Code? That would speed things up to one night, and it would be more exciting.
7 years ago
InvivnI wrote
--alex-- wrote
The drive in the 360 is a vanilla dual layer drive- the media is not the problem here it is the *very* advanced cryptography involved, and will take at least another 6 months before it is cracked.
(or however long it takes)
So they need that Cryptologist from The Da Vinci Code? That would speed things up to one night, and it would be more exciting.
Not really, these types of hacks aren't generally about breaking the 'code' but instead bypassing the parts of the chip that check for the code. Or getting program code to be processed from a non-checked area which loads whatever.
7 years ago
nikack wrote
k1dcharm wrote
That still doesn't deny the fact that MS products are easier to hack.
It does though. It's a whole lot easier to 'hack' something that you have the source code for, eg Linux. It's like saying a large vault in the middle of a room is easier to crack then a small one in the corner, simply because you can see the larger vault more easily.
This is called Security through Obscurity and there are arguments for and against it. If you have an open system like linux the bugs get found early as everyone can see them as you say. DVDs on the other hand rely on hidden security keys to stop copying, but one guy found some of them and it all fell apart.

The Interesting thing about this hack is that it might be undetectable to Xbox Live, which is MS's best chance of stopping mod chips.
7 years ago
--alex-- wrote
InvivnI wrote
--alex-- wrote
The drive in the 360 is a vanilla dual layer drive- the media is not the problem here it is the *very* advanced cryptography involved, and will take at least another 6 months before it is cracked.
(or however long it takes)
So they need that Cryptologist from The Da Vinci Code? That would speed things up to one night, and it would be more exciting.
Not really, these types of hacks aren't generally about breaking the 'code' but instead bypassing the parts of the chip that check for the code. Or getting program code to be processed from a non-checked area which loads whatever.
*eyes roll* it was a joke.....
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