Microsoft boss says Wii gamers will graduate to 360

This seems to be an EVER increasing trend. PR representatives making BIG faux pas that are alienating their market. Nintendo European VP of sales calling basically all virtual console users 'Geeks and Otaku'. Greenberg from M$ making all kinds of assinine statements. Hell look at virgin internets chief calling for the end of net neturality. It seems that all these big wigs are not in touch with their demographic.

While i did take all these statements with a grain of salt, i was QUITE offended by the fact that they COULD make these statements about THEIR consumers, given that WE provide their income (basically). This from M$ about 'graduating' is again offensive, as it shows little or NO background about who really games. Part of what made the Wii such a great selling console was its appeal to non-typical gamers, ie VERY little kids, women and casual gamers.

This was a factor of Games and Price. To say that these people will want to 'trade-up' to a Wii shows that Greenberg doesnt know SQUAT!

Honestly, who ARE these people?!

As i said earlier, i TOTALLY agree with this. But it shows a real lack of industry insight for him to be saying they will 'graduate' to the 360. All the markets the big N has tapped are the kind that would never have bought a console to begin with ie little kids, families, women, fitness nuts etc. To talk about 'moving up' is unrealistic and stupid.

Guy doesnt know squat and thats offensive. He shouldnt be talking for 'us' as gamers & should get out and see the real world

I can see the logic behind that, as they get to use their previous library. I wouldnt say the playstation brand actually carries that much with these people. Especially based on cost of console and peripherals (see Dual Shock 3). These people only buy one console per generation as they are really a casual market. Hardcore gamers own 2 or all of the current gen consoles.

What these marketing people are missing is that the whole market isnt traditional hardcore or even casual gamers any more. We have just people who are just strait up casual users. These people are normally attracted to the cheaptes and easiests console. PS2 was the same last gen, cheap and ubiquitous console (it was everywhere), cheap and expansive game library and a sort of 'following'. This is what the Wii has tapped this generation.

Look at the number of cheap games for Wii compared to PS3 and 360. Look at what console 'non gamers' talk about. Look at install base, look at whats on the kiddies wish lists because their mates have it. If Nintendo drop their prices there install base will climb further as even more people will buy in.

The reason the install base isnt as big now is simply the way they handled manufacture, the lost the hype because they sold out. They are now pushing Wii fit and the same thing is happening. Gaming as a whole has changed. There are now two camps. Us, the hardcore, the TRUE gamers and casual USERS, who crack out the Wii fit or have singstar/guitar hero at a party.