GTA IV cut details emerge

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One of our readers, Mick, has sent through a summary of what has been cut from the Australian version of Grand Theft Auto IV, in comparison to the UK version. Mick has played through both versions of the game.

According to Mick, when players pick up a prostitute in the Australian version, there is no way to select a 'service' from the prostitute. The sexual intercourse sex animation has also been completely removed, so players will only see the car bounce from a locked rear-view. In the uncut version, after selecting a service from the prostitute, players can rotate the camera to see the prostitute's actions.

Also in the Australian version, no blood pools will appear beneath a dead person after shooting or stabbing them to death. There are blood splatters, but no blood pools. In the uncut version, blood will slowly ooze out from under a body, and it is possible to create bloody footprints by walking through the blood, or bloody tyre tracks from driving through it. Finally, when Niko or other NPCs are injured in the uncut version, light blood patches appear on their bodies which basically represent bruises/bullet wounds.

Mick doesn't make mention of any cutscene changes or any other alterations, so it seems the local censorship really was quite minor.

Thanks to Mick for the tip. It has also come to our attention since publication that bloody footprints and tyre tracks are in the AU version.

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150 Comments

lennex15

4 years ago

Aside from Rockstar altering a couple of things have a guess WHAT'S

There was some serious news reported in this article and instead of having a constructive argument or putting forward constructive ideas it's been a total waist.

mikezilla2

4 years ago

sadliy id agree but we just need to let this die off .

James

4 years ago

Ok, enough meta-discussion about moderation in this thread. Also enough discussion about what version can do what - it's been pretty well established that the cut version does show tracks, but not pools.

Anyway back on the topic;

MikeZombie777 wrote

This is what happens when you have an inane classification system; products begin to be self-censored by their creators, which is the worst kind of censorship.

I don't neccessarily agree with that - I'd rather have Rockstar censor the game, than have the government do it for me.

In reality I expect that if the uncut version was passed to the Australian censors, it probably would have got through. Rockstar probably decided to err on the safe side to avoid the extra cost / time constraints that would have been required if the game was refused classification from the get-go.

lennex15

4 years ago

^ Agreed They probably also wanted to be seen as taking a proactive role so family interest groups and parent groups didn't kick up a fuss nothing like a little bit of 'See we really are doing the best we can with what the government gives us' Probably also may of got the Australian Press heat off them too again by being proactive censorship. The press couldn't turn around and say Australians are predisposed to excessive violence, sex etc. when rockstar has provided a slightly watered down version.

Gamesta

4 years ago

James wrote

MikeZombie777 wrote

This is what happens when you have an inane classification system; products begin to be self-censored by their creators, which is the worst kind of censorship.

I think that the worldwide release was a factor.I think they didn't want to take the chance that it would be refused classification effectively ruining the worldwide release in Aus.

MikeZombie777

4 years ago

James wrote

MikeZombie777 wrote

This is what happens when you have an inane classification system; products begin to be self-censored by their creators, which is the worst kind of censorship.

If the government is directly responsible for censorship then they can be held accountable by the people and stopped. If an artist censors their own vision to appease the theocratic mindset of these idiotic politicians there's nothing we can do. That's the problem.

Smurf80

3 years ago

It doesnt really bother me it was cut seems to be minor things only and doesnt have any detrimental effect on the game although I was reading back about the how the camera is fixed when you pick up a hooker but if you watch a NPC pick one up and follow him you can still view it anyway is this true for the aussie cut version as I was playing last night and was cruising around and happened to see an NPC pick one up so I decided to follow him and see what happens. well after driving around for ages with no sign of pulling up somewhere I decided to drive past the car and see if she is still in there with him. When I got up to the window she was gone so is it true or another myth that is flying around?

MikeZombie777

3 years ago

Nah. From what I've seen that's a myth. I also followed an ped around whom picked up a hooker in the uncut version and they just drive around endlessly.

A13x

3 years ago

I made Niko push a hooker once when I was playing, she started chasing him, so I ran over to a cop car, when she hit Niko, the cops got out, and arrested her at gunpoint, they even put her in the back seat of the car and drove away.

After hearing the above rumour, I was tempted to follow to see what would happen, but couldn't get a car fast enough to keep up.

Infested Jibbs

3 years ago

^Yeah, as long as you don't retaliate in view of the cops, cops will arrest your attacker.Nice touch.On the flipside though, sucks when your self defending against gang bangers but you the cops target you.

Like i said before, i still have faith that limbs can be blown off and you can see peds in action with hookers, and the reason is...

cause obs said so.Obs isn't a blow in like 90% of other posters in this topic so his word holds more weight.

Fetidchimp

3 years ago

I tried extremely hard to get the tire tracks, i ran a guy into a concrete barricade and he exploded in a cloud of blood dust, drove over him, no red tracks. I have tried to do burn outs on them, no red tracks and i ran down about 40 other people in my attempt to get these red tracks, i didn't get them once, so i have no idea what the hell is going on there?

MikeZombie777

3 years ago

Jibbs wrote

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4965/1003767bd0.jpg
Proof I have the uncut version---^^^

Seriously, you're completely gullible if you believe either one of those things. You believe someone with absolutely no proof what so ever or any kind follow up statement over someone who's taken screen shots and had various gaming sites publish his write up. There is absolutely no dismemberment and peds do not actually have sex with hookers, ask around & try it out yourself. I've played through both versions from start to finish, I would know. Search on Google and Youtube for a SINGLE video or screen shot, you won't find one because it simply isn't in the game regardless of what version you own.

Post your questions on the Official Xbox Forums, Whirlpool, Overclockers and gtaforums. You'll get laughed off the forums within 10 minutes.

ugh the boot

3 years ago

I've seen Obs be wrong, plus he's only human and he has glasses to boot!! Where did he see this dismemberment again? Oh that's right in the blurry slow-mo screen when you die!

I've spent like over 1/2 an hour testing out dismemberment and it doesn't work. Try it yourself, why go on Obs word? Max out all your guns and go on a rampage and put it on free aim so you're always targeting where you want and I guarantee you'll go through every gun/bullet in your arsenal and you won't see single dismemberment.

The only person's word I believe is the one that can offer me some proof.

Lol at peepz trying to follow NPC's around tryna get a geez at the hooker stuff. Sux to be gimped! I haven't even tried the hooker stuff or the blood pools. I have tried the tyre tracks thing when I read about it on here and I tried dismemberment pretty much as soon as I got the game. I'm probably the last person that actually needed the censored version but i'll be damned if i'd gotten any other one, like I said....it's all about the principle of it. No one buys the censored version, no more censored version! It's pretty simple really.

Also MikeZombie777 seems to be one of the only people in this thread that can provide some sort of proof (sure he's taking it a bit far but I probably would aswell if someone was testing my credibility) of anything he says. He's also one of the first and only people to test this stuff out and let other people know, he's not doing it for cred or money, it genuinely seems like he just wants to get the right info out there so there are no misconceptions. Is that so wrong? Personally I think it's great. Not only that but his info seems to hold up the best out of anyone elses's judging by my experiences with the game. The only thing imo that he can't seem to nail is the bloody tyre tracks, but why would he lie about not being able to do it in the censored version? He's got both versions, I don't think it makes any difference to him, so why lie? It's cuz he's not. It sounds to me like the bloody tyre tracks are inconsisntent/glitch from the censored version because other peeps are backing his statements up by not being able to do it, whereas other people clearly say/show that they are able to do it.

MikeZombie777

3 years ago

Thanks mate. I'm just getting a little ticked off because I have to keep explaining the same thing over and over and over only to have people argue with me without presenting any sort of proof. You're right, I do just want to get the information out there and ensure it's as accurate as possible. Why? Because I strongly disagree with censorship, in fact I would go as far as to say I'm anti-censorship nut. Why would I lie about something as trivial as bloody tyre tracks? I'm simply focusing on what I have personally experienced after having played both versions of the game for over 80 hours.

I invite people to post screen shots of what I have found NOT to be in the AU version, if these elements are in fact present in the AU version as I want people to be reading the full, accurate story and not a bunch of half truths or rumors.

Awx

3 years ago

well, 10 posts until the thread degenerated back into the mindless drivel we were trying to avoid. Never mind.

In an attempt to bring this thread back on track...I can't help but feel that there is somethign else cut that has been missed, blood pools and bloody clothes have all been done before, why change now?

ittekimasu

3 years ago

While I'm thankful I have the full version, I'm greateful for someone to bring these details to light, it only appears to be small details so at least those who have the AU version won't feel to have missed out on much.

In light ignorance is bliss, those who don't try to hard to spot the differences isn't going to miss out on the amount of fun that people are having.

LeonJ

3 years ago

I just played the game then and I threw a genade. It blew a man in half and his 'upper' body came flying towards while his legs and torso went the other direction.

Gamesta

3 years ago

Smurf80 wrote

The same thing happened to me.I think it's just a myth.

I'm going to make a vid to prove once and for all that bloody tyre tracks are indeed in the Aus version.Now if after seeing the vid you still don't believe me you can just continue to live in your self denial.

I will also drop the subject once and for all.

ugh the boot wrote

Also MikeZombie777 seems to be one of the only people in this thread that can provide some sort of proof (sure he's taking it a bit far but I probably would aswell if someone was testing my credibility) of anything he says. He's also one of the first and only people to test this stuff out and let other people know, he's not doing it for cred or money, it genuinely seems like he just wants to get the right info out there so there are no misconceptions. Is that so wrong? Personally I think it's great. Not only that but his info seems to hold up the best out of anyone elses's judging by my experiences with the game. The only thing imo that he can't seem to nail is the bloody tyre tracks, but why would he lie about not being able to do it in the censored version? He's got both versions, I don't think it makes any difference to him, so why lie? It's cuz he's not. It sounds to me like the bloody tyre tracks are inconsisntent/glitch from the censored version because other peeps are backing his statements up by not being able to do it, whereas other people clearly say/show that they are able to do it.

I agree with everything you said there.

MikeZombie777 wrote

I'm doing the same thing as you.I'm not trying to undermine your post.I'm also not trying to pick fights or gain anything.Like you I want the article to be as accurate as possible.That's why I'm trying to prove that bloody tyres can be done in the Aus version.Sure it seems that only certain copies can do it but it is indeed possible.

Also note that I have not mentioned dismemberment or being able to see the hookers actions.Because like you I don't believe it.

MikeZombie777

3 years ago

LeonJ wrote

I just played the game then and I threw a genade. It blew a man in half and his 'upper' body came flying towards while his legs and torso went the other direction.

I must ask; what exactly do you hope to achieve by spreading such trivial misinformation? Normally I would have the sense to simply not get involved in such a childish debacle but having gone through the trouble to engage is genuine research for no reason other than to assist the gaming community in making a truly informed decision when purchasing the game, it irritates me to no end that you would go out of your way to spread blatant lies for seemingly no reason. Again, what exactly do you hope to achieve? Are you merely trying to censor censorship? Are you trying to pull a blindfold over the eyes of Australians so that they don't realize just how flawed the classification system is? I don't understand it. More so why would anybody seriously buy into your claims? All they have to do is throw a grenade at a persons feet to prove your claims are nonsense.

People, why is it do you think that the media nor the players of the game themselves have published a single video or screen shot clearly demonstrating dismemberment? Well the answer is quite simple; because everybody is well aware of the fact that such does not exist within the game.

From this point on I will not be debating it any further. Such content is not in the game and that's that. I have enough of it. If you don't believe me try it yourself and ask around on all of the big forums such as the official xbox forums, overclockers, gtaforum and others.

Good night.

teashades

3 years ago

I can confirm that you can see the prostitute sex in the au version. I just had sex with a prostitute and you see everything. You even see Niko's penis. Then the prostitute gets dismembered by Niko's penis and if you run your car over it you see bloody tire tracks, and penis tracks from Niko's Penis, which is so big that it fills the screen.

Gamesta

3 years ago

If you want to see bloody tyre tracks you can watch my vid here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDna3qL1K8I

Now I'm done with this subject so if you still don't believe me then that's fine by me.Unless you want to PM me.Denial isn't a pretty thing.

MikeZombie777

3 years ago

Gamesta wrote

I emailed Luke and Logan from Kotaku asking them to amend the article stating that the tyre tracks are possible, which they have done already. You're too late.

Lurk moar.

LeonJ

3 years ago

MikeZombie777.

What the hell are you talking about. I am simply stating what I saw 5 minutes before I posted that post. I was playing the stupid game and I saw what what I stated above . And I thought, interesting (like a lot of the things you see in GTAIV at random times), that's something I haven't seen before and I remembered this silly thread. I don't really care about your argument I was just stated what I saw. I really couldn't give a crap if you think I'm out to fustrate you and try to disrpoven your pool of blood theories. I don't care about the gore or lack of it, all I did was state what I saw.

Whateva man, it's just a game. Get over it.

Gamesta

3 years ago

MikeZombie777 wrote

Gamesta wrote

I emailed Luke and Logan from Kotaku asking them to amend the article stating that the tyre tracks are possible, which they have done already. You're too late.

Lurk moar.

Haha you say that like I'm supposed to be angry or something.I'm glad you did that as now I no longer have to defend my honour by posting proof when people try to say I'm a liar.

Did you even read my post where I stated that I wanted the same thing as you? That is to make your first post as truthful as possible.That's the whole reason I posted proof.I didn't want your article to state things that weren't true.

I STRONGLY belief truth is the answer.People should not have to follow false pretenses.

Hell I don't even say I'm younger than I am to get something cheaper even though with my youthful looks I can easily pass as a 15-16 year old.

I'm glad the article has been changed.Not just to prove I was telling the truth but also so that the article is exactly true and not just mostly true.

I edited my vid info to mention that I did not know beforehand that the article had been edited to add bloody tyre tracks.

I left the vid up just in case other want to know how to get the bloody tyre tracks in the edited version.

I haven't managed to see bloody footprints yet though.

NismoR34

3 years ago

*sigh*

You know what the worst thing about this thread is? It's not the fact that the arguments gave me the impression that PALGN had turned into an episode of Big Brother or was actually a high school rather than a gaming site, nor is it the fact that a long term and respected member of this community had his credibility brought into question regardless of whether he was correct or not; No it was none of that.

It's the fact that these pathetic arguments continued to happen AFTER they were told many times to damn well stop.

Grow the hell up people for crying out loud. This is some of the most trivial rubbish I've ever seen be argued on a forum and if some random person was to click on the comments for this article and saw this, they certainly would not be returning to PALGN again after reading this crap. An absolute joke and I don't care if the children (oh what, you're not children? Well stop acting like them then) neg me for this post. Absolutely unbelievable.

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Australian Release Date:
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