Miyamoto 'retiring' to work in a smaller more hands-on role

[DancesInUnderwear]

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/12/miyamoto-interview/

[Benza]

Honestly... eh. I haven't really enjoyed anything Nintendo have put out since the Gamecube.
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[LeonJ]

I tend to agree he has lost his touch. Games have evolved a bit since Mario 64.
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[Jarrod]

Reports are a bit conflicting. Nintendo has has denied the clains, but even if you read the Wired article he's stating he's not so much retiring from Nintendo as wanting to get back into actual game development. He's been in a senior/producer position for years now, and stated "What I really want to do is be in the forefront of game development once again myself".
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[Mike\]

moar pikmin is required

[DancesInUnderwear]

[Benza]

[DancesInUnderwear]

You hold the NES controller (or whatever similar controller of that era) with two hands, using your left hand for movement in some form and your right hand to push buttons and do things. You do the same for every controller up to and including the PS3/360/Wii classic controller (hell even with the Wiimote/Nunchuk combo). Regardless of what buttons there are, whether its a d-pad, an analogue, whatever. Its not the joystick setup that proceed it, nor the mouse / keyboard combo that lived alongside it. It is standardised.

The Wiimote was the first attempt at a change to that controller set up for a wide variety of games. The EyeToy is similar, indeed, but didn't ultimately have as wide reach as the Wiimote did, and this was largely because of Wii Sports. If Mario Galaxy can be considered innovative for whatever reason, Wii Sports can.
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[DancesInUnderwear]

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[Jarrod]

[Crank]

Nintendo have now denied that Miyamoto is retiring.

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[Jarrod]

Oh. Well yeah, we don't know exactly what he does or his influences. We do know he's a senior executive at Nintendo, and generally gets what he wants. EG: He always has a significant say in the direction of new console/portable platforms, and if he wants to make major changes to a game (see: Twilight Princess) he's free too. But his specific involvement in the assortment of games he's dabbled in is largely unknown.

But I guess that's the problem. He likely wants to spend less time stretching himself across everything Nintendo does, and more time working directly with people, either training them or making games himself.
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[Benza]

Do you know what the major changes he did in twilight princess were? I didn't even realise that game was development hell.

Also was he the guy responsible for the "Rare's dinosaur planet is now about Starfox!"

Cause that was a fucking stupid idea.
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[Jarrod]

If I recall correctly, Miyamoto and Aonuma were the two overseers of Twilight Princess, but mainly Aonuma was directing. Aonuma was busy with, I think it was, early work on Phantom Hourglass and had neglected the Twilight Princess team. The very first E3 showing, the one that hyped people, was mostly composed of crap the team had built yet was far from a proper 'game'.

Miyamoto went over the project and realised nothing was coming together, as in, the team was pretty much directionless and just building shit to meet no real end. That and, apparently, the game played pretty poorly. So Miyamoto forced Aonuma to come back and full time direct the project, with Miyamoto also helping out, to make something of the game.

The general consensus is that the Zelda team was kind of working on a quasi-open Zelda game. A lot of the early footage from that first reveal shows big, open environments, which is very different from the compartmentalised traditional Zelda stuff we go. For either technical or design reasons, or both, it wasn't coming together, so they overhauled it for something more traditional. The huge, gigantic and empty Hyrule field I suspect is a relic of the direction of the original design.

And no idea about Star Fox, but it wouldn't surprise me. Nintendo's relationship with Rare was a bit sour at that point, Star Fox was in need of revival, and Miyamoto probably felt it would be a better fit for what was ultimately a shitty Zelda clone.
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[Benza]

[Nietzsche]

I hope he goes down the doublefine route. Shame he has to work on a nintendo platform though. Would love to play a game by him with dual sticks.

[Mike\]

[WarAdept]

As pretty as it was, Starfox Adventures was Zelda using Starfox skins. As someone who loved Starfox 1, 2 and Lylatwars, I was outraged that they chose a completely different genre to continue the series. It even followed into Starfox Assault with those horrid foot missions, and I don't know what they were thinking with Starfox Command.

A little surprised that there were development problems with Twilight Princess and the Nintendo games on the GCN were rushed out of development, but the company manages to keep a very tight lid on the workplace conditions over the years.

I think Nintendo needs an injection of fresh blood to start making their games. Specifically some new IP's. But then again, the stuff they churn out are at least consistant and they make lots of money, so I can see why they won't try anything drastic.

[IISpacebreakII]

I liked Starfox Adventures but I wasn't a Starfox fan up until I played with him in Super Smash Bros. (My favourite character)

Adventures had such beautiful graphics, but yeah the gameplay was a little...I don't know. It was weird, can't quite explain it other than it wasn't fluid and felt like an alien...that doesnt make sense..but yeah can't put my finger on it.

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