Mass Effect 3

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Anthony · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:41 pm�� Post subject:

In related news, information on a Mass Effect 3 demo will be revealed in the coming months.
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Jahanzeb · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:48 pm�� Post subject:

That's alotta 3s in your sig there Anthony

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admeister · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:09 pm�� Post subject:

Lots of new info from Gamescom!

JunkInTheBox · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:28 pm�� Post subject:

Jarrod · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:48 pm�� Post subject:

Mostly good stuff. I dont really care about any of the romance stuff, and I still think BioWare's excuse for Cerberus becoming an enemy will be utter horseshit, but the rest of the changes/additions are very welcome.

Glad to see Legion playing a bigger part. He was a disappointingly missed opportunity in ME2.
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Island_Wolf · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:49 pm�� Post subject:

Btw Ad, should probably put in a spoiler tag since I know some people won't be happy to read that. Better yet, SKIP MY POST since I want to read it with convenience!

Jarrod · Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:40 pm�� Post subject:

Liara statue coming from Kotobukiya.

Yeeeaaaah...
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Cerebral · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:02 am�� Post subject:

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Nietzsche · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:18 am�� Post subject:

Hype meter just went over 9000. It's a bit sad that this is making all the other releases this year seem sub par to me.

admeister · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:26 pm�� Post subject:

It seems that Mass Effect 3 will be using an Online Pass for the multiplayer mode. The pass will come with both the standard and limited edition of the game. It's not too surprising, after Mass Effect 2's Cerberus Network Card that only came with new copies of the game.

There's no word on whether people who buy the game second hand will be able to buy an Online Pass from the Xbox Live or PSN store.
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Exodus · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:02 am�� Post subject:

I'm scared to get hyped or excited for this game. I loved ME2 for its story, character interaction and progression, but after the gameplay was over, it just hit me how casualised and un-RPG it really was. I think I am one of the few who enjoyed the original Mass Effect's customisation and overall squad interaction more. It's good to see they're bringing the best of both titles (such as bringing back armour customisation but keeping the action-paced combat) but I'm going to keep myself guarded with this one.
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Nietzsche · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:05 am�� Post subject:

I'm playing ME1 now. Squad interaction is a joke. So many ways it is broken.

Exodus · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:05 pm�� Post subject:

How so? Was it because it was more boring or less deep?

I personally think because the number of potential squadmates was smaller, it endeared the squad to me a lot more than ME2, and I enjoyed the squad interaction a lot more. The conversations after missions, as well as the "elevator banter" was much more dynamic and felt more natural to me in ME1. The relationship progression also seemed more weighty too. For instance, with Garrus. He starts off as a pessimistic C-Sec Operative who admires Renegade Shepard's "get the job done" attitude, or is apprehensive but ultimately loyal in Paragon Shepard's goodness. Garrus's personal mission with that guy he wanted to track down on the derelict space-ship and choosing between letting him die and live; the resulting conversation with Garrus after that, whatever way it goes, made him seem like a true, loyal companion who you really over the course of the game have influenced and forged a friendship with. His mission in ME2 is equally (and ironically very similarly) strong in developing such a natural friendship or mutual respect for one another. I never felt that way with many of the ME2 squadmates.

The romance progression with Ashley was also much more deeper, natural and realistic than the half-assed job they did with Miranda, who seemed like a robot with a nice ass in close-ups. The conversations with Miranda were also less deep and less frequent. The mission with Miranda's long-lost sister also just felt like an excuse for Shepard to get into her pants straight after it was over. With Ashley, it felt like it developed more naturally, even with the cheesy references to poems, religion, and her siblings. But that's all part of the flirtation game and eventual path to "love". The xenophobic viewpoints of Ashley and Kaidan on the Turians also really highlighted humanity's lack of understanding in the ME universe that they are the new players in the game, and that they don't understand that as a collective race, we are taking things to fast for the existing Galactic superpowers. Considering Miranda was a Cerebus operative, I was surprised there wasn't more xenophobia displayed, expressed or voiced by her. The conversations with her were just... well, not memorable. Or maybe my memory from my last playthrough is very hazy.

Wrex added some much needed humor, and the conversations about Tuchanka, his past in the clan and so on were so much more deeper than I imagined, and way more deep then anything you could ever get from Grunt in ME 2. And that confrontation on Virmire with Wrex was a true example of paying attention to squadmates to gain (or lose) their loyalty and the subsequent consequences. I felt that mechanic was so cool. Choosing between Ashley and Kaidan to live was also so heart-wrenching and difficult, and made the later squad interactions with the surviving members on the Normandy unique. Correct me if I'm wrong but in ME2, you can't really lose any squadmates because of personal conflict with squadmates, can you? (Disregarding the final mission, where all of the can perish but that's because of the Reapers and Collectors). I think the one exception is Samara, but even then Morinth is just a disappointing substitute with no additional or unique dialog or interaction.

I think another example for what made the squad interaction in ME2 more boring was many of the characters and their lack of substance, like Zaeed or Legion. Zaeed was DLC, yet he had virtually zero incentive to bring him along in missions save for two lines of unique dialogue outside of the ship with the Blue Suns. In the ship he said oneliners and had no actual conversation/interaction mechanic. Legion itself was introduced in the main story quests so late in the game that when the confrontation with Legion and Tali happened, it felt so unrealistic, considering its lack of time on the Normandy. This kind of sucked for me too because Legion was marketed in the pre-release footage as a major character, but it ended up being introduced so late that it had substantially less dialog or interaction in missions. I acknowledge he's a Geth robot but come on.

Also, I'm talking mostly from a narrative standpoint, by the way. The fact that ME3 is lowering the potential squad-count again, and bringing back Ashley (or Kaidan), Wrex, Liara, Garrus, and Tali and emphasizing their roles and relationships with Shepard over the ME2 squadmates show that maybe they are favouring their original creations and narratives a little more, which I personally love that they are establishing and bringing back as priorities.
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Nietzsche · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:14 pm�� Post subject:

I was talking purely from a combat perspective. Obviously I agree ME's squad was far more involving and I like those characters a lot more. I liked what they did with past characters in ME2 (well except for the alive alliance member where they don't even get mentioned much.

Played through ME2 twice, ME1 five times with a massive hour count that is kind of ridiculous for a single player game that you can finish in 7 hours.

Jarrod · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:15 pm�� Post subject:

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Said it once when it was rumour and will say it again now that it is fact. EVERYONE rubbished brotherhood for having an MP mode when it was supposed to be strictly an "Single-player" only experience forever according to the community. Well the MP didn't last long but it didn't suck and it certainly didn't detract from the main game.

If ubisoft can do it so can bioware.

LeonJ · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:12 pm�� Post subject:

But it will be like Gears of War...but worse. I can't imagine this being GREAT as a competitive MP title, AVERAGE, sure. Co-op, yep, I get it, be awesome. MP? Nah.

I'm thinking Bioshock 2 here.
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kartanym · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:37 pm�� Post subject:

It does say fight along side your friends ... but maybe this is more a co-op experience? If it's squad based death match I'll skip it, but I guess it's a nice distraction if it's properly implemented.

admeister · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:51 pm�� Post subject:

OropherX · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:05 pm�� Post subject:

Mass Effect 3 co-op, sounds good. I'll create a Drell =D

http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/119/1199462p1.html
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admeister · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:28 am�� Post subject:

I definitely like the idea behind it, and the fact that they've tried to tie the multiplayer mode to the story in some way. Nobody can really complain, since you can still get the optimal ending by only playing single player, but the option is there if you want to play multiplayer, and when you do play it - you'll know that it's helping your single player progess too.

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Jarrod · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:59 pm�� Post subject:

For Anthony.

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Anthony · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:14 pm�� Post subject:

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admeister · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:37 pm�� Post subject:

Check out Bioware's new video showing off the new multiplayer features:

It sounds as though it will be a really seamless experience, I look forward to having a go at it.

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