PALGN Master Race Builders Thread (Build your PC + advice!)

vizzini111 · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:01 pm�� Post subject:

I thought i'd post this seeing as there's a few people interested in the 7xxx series

http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/797a-tnfc-radeon-7970-core-edition-p-55961.html?sort=3d

price point starting at $699-$799

Mike\ · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:31 pm�� Post subject:

I don't yet see point to upgrade my 5850 to anything, it runs everything perfect still. but i have been eyeing the rapefest that will be the 7990 dual gpu bohemoth

Frozencry · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:32 pm�� Post subject:

That is seriously way too much for a single GPU these days. You can get a dual GPU or CrossfireX setups that trounce this card for cheaper or an equal price. Very disappointed in these prices considering the performance it gives. The only viable upgrade I'd personally be able to see for my setup would be a new dual GPU like the 7990 or another 6990. But even then, the performance nowadays is easily achievable with current hardware.
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vizzini111 · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:38 pm�� Post subject:

i'd expect the price for this to drop pretty sharply once MSY, PCCasegear etc start stocking it, atm the moment centrecom is the only retailer i've seen advertising it

canetoad · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:25 pm�� Post subject:

This is about the 3rd time I've posted here haha, each time nothing has come to fruition on my end but I think I'm in pretty desperate need of something now, still running a 7 year old Dell which I don't think will last much longer..

Looking around $1400 tops, have come up with this so far. Would very much appreciate any comments/suggestions you may have, any way I can save money on it as well if that's possible. Will possibly be looking at 2x 6950s in the future too.

Cheers!

Corsair TX-650 V2 650W ATX Power $113.00

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM $95.00

CoolerMaster RC-692-KKN2 Advanced Bay Tower Gaming Case $112.00

Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU $233.00

Gigabyte ATI HD6950 1GB OC GDDR5 DVI HDMI $267.00

Seagate SATA3 1TB 7200RPM 32mb Cache $116.00

G Skill 8G(2x4G)DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800(CL9D-8GBSR2) $56.00

LGE CH12LS28 Black Blue Ray HD Combo Retail $58.00

Asus P8Z68-V LE 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI DVI D-SUB... $149.00

Intel 320 80GB SSD $155.00

Total $1344.00
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G3ck0 · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:54 am�� Post subject:

So what would be a decent fan for my i5 2500k? If I wanted to overclock it? I have it at 4ghz now, with stock cooling, but I'd like to make it cooler and maybe overclock it a bit more.

The Noctua NH C14 seems good, for a fan. Or the Corsair H80 for water-cooling. But is water-cooling too much for what I want? Or could I buy a cheaper $40 or so fan and still overclock to 4-4.5 ghz safely?

Frozencry · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:55 am�� Post subject:

4.5ghz you should use an air based cooler like a ThermalTake Silver Arrow or Noctua. Anything higher (which you probably won't need unless you're going into 3D rendering or multithreaded tasks) and you're looking at water cooling for comfortable temperatures at higher voltage.
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ZeroX03 · Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:22 am�� Post subject:

Screw it, mate at work offered me his almost-new HD6990 for $550, I'm getting it. Already sold both my GTX570's, awww yeah.
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b+2,1 mindgames

ZeroX03 · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:00 pm�� Post subject:

Now running a HIS HD6990, this thing is BEAST!!!
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b+2,1 mindgames

Frozencry · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:34 pm�� Post subject:

Welcome to my world! Make sure to grab the 12.1 catalyst for custom profiles and better crossfire support, and keep up to date on your CAPs! Massive help when it comes to Crossfire support.
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theory · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:02 am�� Post subject:

Hi Master Race! Little help please?

Looking to build a new box for audio/video/image recording/editing. Doubt I'll be playing many games on it. Have read through this whole thread and picked up some great tips.

Last time I built a PC was about 10 years ago. Have been using a PC that was given to me for the last couple of years - Intel Core2Duo E8400 3.00GHz with only 2GB RAM. Is that bad? It feels pretty bad. Might just be the slow HD and fuck all RAM.

What I need:
SSD.
Lots of RAM.
USB3.0 with a bunch of ports (external drives, webcam, network adaptor).
Easily 1080p capable.
Dual screen capable (for programs, not games).
HDMI.

These are the parts I'm pretty sure on:
CPU - Probably i7 2600k.
Memory - 16GB DDR3 (possibly overkill but it's cheap)
Hard Disk - 120GB or 240GB SSD
Hard Disk #2 - 1TB or 2TB 7200rpm

These are the parts I have no idea about:
Motherboard - ?
Video Card / GPU - ?
CPU cooler - ?
Power Supply - ?

Help with the above would be awesome. Also if anyone can tell me if any brands are better/more trusted than others in regards to RAM and HDDs.

Thanks guys!

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Pagan's Mind · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:22 pm�� Post subject:

Frozencry · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:22 pm�� Post subject:

CPU - Good choice, as it's not too expensive for very solid performance in applications for multimedia, and you can overclock it much later down the track for massive speed boosts.

Memory - If you're using Adobe software and audio suites such as FLStudio and all that, 16GB isn't overkill - it actually turns out very useful for intensive stuff. Also, future proof! Keep in mind because the CPU is a 1155 chipset, this means it needs to be dual channel; so 4gb, 8gb, 16gb, 32, etc. For 16GB it's likely you will get four sticks of 4GB ram, or 2x8. These are pretty good, albeit they're lower end in the sense that you can't overclock them much, but you don't really need to half the time.

Motherboard - Your 2600k is part of the 1155 socket chipset, so you need a 1155 compatible motherboard. A good mobo for the kind of memory you're going for is the Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z. It has 4 slots for memory (so you'd need 4 x 4GB sticks or 2 x 8) and is pretty feature proof. I believe it has 4 USB 3.0 ports.

GPU - Primarily for gaming but can be used for things like CUDA and DirectCompute in certain multimedia applications. If you want something that CAN run games very well though and will last you a while, Radeon HD6950. Fairly cheap and can probably get it cheaper somewhere, and is an awesome performer. Oh and yeah, AMD cards are fantastic multi monitor performers, been playing with them for over 2 years now with multi-monitor/Eyefinity and they're superb.

CPU Cooler - This thing will get you started as from user reports it cools quite well and does allow a good amount of headroom for an overclock later down the track. It's nothing super crazy but I doubt you'll need something like that.

Power Supply - While this one is a little pricier than some other 750w PSU's, I'm usually really pedantic and picky about PSU's as they power everything you have and having poor quality power output can cause problems. Corsair are an incredible company quality and warranty wise so I really, strongly suggest going with them. I'm fairly sure 750w will be more than enough for what you have too.

Hopefully I didn't miss anything there, but those parts should cover you. Another tip is to get a decent size case for all this like a Corsair Obsidian 650D or an NZXT Phantom. Good airflow is important and will help keep your system alive for much longer.

Also it looks sexy.
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theory · Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:30 pm�� Post subject:

You guys are amazing. So so helpful. Thank you both lots and lots plus a million.

Not at home right now, will look at all this in more detail later tonight (hopefully) and come back with any questions I have. <3
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theory · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:50 am�� Post subject:

Putting together a system based on recommendations from youse guys.

http://pcpartpicker.com/au/p/4bhh

Couple questions if I may:

1. @Frozencry - so by mentioning airflow, i take it i should be going for full rather than mid tower? the cases you suggested look nice but quite pricey! is there a cool cheapy full tower you know of that will work?

2. OS advice - probably a stupid question - 64bit is the way to go? like i said it's been a while since i built a pc. and i'm still running xp

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Zhou · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:03 am�� Post subject:

Frozencry · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:11 am�� Post subject:

Wow that site has a very pricey 800D case

$349 is insane.

This case should be good for cooling and fitting parts as far as I know. I believe that was Alex' old case and Puddingfork's current case, so check up with them and they should be able to give a rundown on it. Pretty confident it's a good one though; good cooling as well.

Also full or mid tower, they're both fine if the quality of the case is high.
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Pagan's Mind · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:23 pm�� Post subject:

Full tower cases are huge. I was shocked by the size of my mid tower case when I bought it. You don't really need a full tower unless you plan to have a lot of components like hard drives, video cards or long motherboards.

I personally like the Fractal Design R3. It's designed well, has USB 3.0 and there's sound dampening material on the side panels to reduce air flow noise.

theory · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:49 pm�� Post subject:

Oh wow, both really nice cases. I like the simplicity of the FD... MSY has it too. I guess I should go mid as I likely won't play with the insides for quite a while, and it will probably be on my desk rather than under it...

MSY seems cheaper for most of these parts. How do shipping prices work with PCcasegear?

Also, another stupid question possibly, what's the deal with SATA and the number next to it e.g. SATA3/SATA6... and I assume I go with SATA whenever possible?
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Frozencry · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:55 pm�� Post subject:

SATA is standard now for Hard Drive transfer. Sata 3 and 6 relate to its speed, Sata 3 being 3GBps and 6 being 6GBps.

Unless the Hard Drive you buy supports the rated speeds, it won't make a difference. Most new models do Sata 6 I'm fairly sure. You want your SSD plugged into it that's for sure.

Also iirc, PC Case Gear are pretty good with shipping prices. I THINK it calculates on weight, but I'm not sure. I paid about $60 for shipping my entire current PC to Sydney. That was standard shipping too, and was here in under 24 hours.

They also have a credit card surcharge. Think it was 2%.
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theory · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:12 pm�� Post subject:

Silly me, didn't realise they were in Melbourne and I could pick up from them. 40min drive from my place, though I guess I could then use cash and bypass the 2% surcharge that all PC stores seem to have!

I think I might just be able to build this beast for under $1500...
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Pagan's Mind · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:56 pm�� Post subject:

Karai Pantsu · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:09 pm�� Post subject:

Hey, not sure if this is goodly or not, but figured I'd throw the link here just in case - Centercom are having a 1 day sale on OCZ Vertex Plus 120gb SSD @ $139
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Pagan's Mind · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:17 pm�� Post subject:

The Vertex Plus are a sort of entry level SSD. They aren't as good as the other Vertex branded drives.

Vertex Plus 128gb:

Max Read: up to 250 MB/s
Max Write: up to 160 MB/s
Random Write 4k (Aligned): 4,800 IOPS

Vertex 3 128gb:

Max Read: up to 550 MB/s
Max Write: up to 500 MB/s
Random Write 4k: 60,000 IOPS

thebigm · Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:48 pm�� Post subject:

A bit late I know, but if I was looking at a budget case right now, I would probably go with this Lancool (Lian Li) model.

Having all the fans available in a case is nice and all, but also efficiently using the right amount of hardware and focusing airflow is important too.

Basically get away fine with two - three case fans on my overclocked I7 setups, usually 1-2x front intake and one rear exhaust will be enough for most people (as long as good quality fans are chosen).

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