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rumours are circulating that Wendell Vaughn has been cast (To some no name actor from the new 90210 Kevin Pennington ) which if true.
Holy shit balls.
I don't give two shits about the actor, but shit if this is true it means any future avengers sequals could get really fucking exciting.
Wendell Vaugh is secretly a kree warrior examining earth as part of the Kree/Skrull intergalactic war.
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Quasar! Which can also only lead to it being imperative for Richard Rider to get an eventually mention.
To be fair though, I only really started liking the character during the premise to the annihilation wave, he seemed a bit bland and flip floppy to begin with for mine, cosmic shit.
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| Fly wrote: | Quasar! Which can also only lead to it being imperative for Richard Rider to get an eventually mention.
To be fair though, I only really started liking the character during the premise to the annihilation wave, he seemed a bit bland and flip floppy to begin with for mine, cosmic ****. |
That's when I got into him. Annihilation really brought all that cosmic stuff forward from obscure and eh to amazing.
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| Benza wrote: | | That's when I got into him. Annihilation really brought all that cosmic stuff forward from obscure and eh to amazing. |
I agree, although the whole lead into the fault & war of kings kinda pushed him to wayside and promoted Nova more so, I still don't think Marvel are convinced what they want to do with all the cosmic stuff as well though. I liked the War of Kings, I liked Planet Hulk and I liked the Annihilation Wave, I disliked Chaos War, Secret Invasion wasn't so much cosmic as it was involving the entities and the FF have never really been my cup of tea as far as supergroups went. Guardians of the Galaxy got warped and twisted very quickly as a tie in, Darkhawk was a joke, Nova was great but they canceled the series and Quasar has really been a bit part outside of his initial blehness like most Kree-human efforts back then.
I mean hell, they brought Mar-vell back in a Chaos War tie in only to kill him off almost immediately anyway and captain marvel is a friggen staple of the Kree - Human cosmic dealio. (granted he was still dead, but eh, stupid series is stupid) but yeah, anyway, I'm guessing this will be early and he'll be in his whole SHIELD quadruple agent role if he is added to a cast so they can then tie in the whole SWORD branch as well in passing mention if they then need to expand the whole deal.
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I thought the cancer verse story was pretty great, Guardians of the Galaxy's ongoing was one of my fave books.
Honestly out of all of the charecters through Qasar always felt the most flat to me (Aside from uh... vampire space cowboy dude? Wrath?)
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| Benza wrote: | I thought the cancer verse story was pretty great, Guardians of the Galaxy's ongoing was one of my fave books.
Honestly out of all of the charecters through Qasar always felt the most flat to me (Aside from uh... vampire space cowboy dude? Wrath?) |
Guardians was good for me until they got into the whole new roster thing with Jack Flag and Phyla's semi arc, it got a bit stupid for me there.
But yeah, I think the problem with the Kree characters is that they always enter all sneaky like so you get the eventual "not again" when another comes along so Marvel then try something similar and take a lowly character and attempt to elevate them. The problem then becomes that Earth 616 is oversaturated enough that they then leave almost immediately to the obscurity that was the cosmic realm where you then frankly had rubbish unless you were Mar'vell.
And I think you mean Wraith, Zak'dol? Zak'dal something like that anyway I think, he seemed to me like he was meant to be the smart but eccentric guy but only ended up looking like a right twat and not doing much of anything but try and fill plot.
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| Fly wrote: |
Guardians was good for me until they got into the whole new roster thing with Jack Flag and Phyla's semi arc, it got a bit stupid for me there.
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Ok yeah it did get a bit retarded around there, but it came back pretty good after that. My biggest gripe is that they took Groot from being a fairly inteligent guy in the Annihaltion: Conquest story to only being able to say I am groot. I mean he said that once in Conquest and mostly just talked fairly normaly other then that.
But to be honest as long as they keep the cosmic stuff seperate from the earth stuff i'm happy.
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And I think you mean Wraith, Zak'dol? Zak'dal something like that anyway I think, he seemed to me like he was meant to be the smart but eccentric guy but only ended up looking like a right twat and not doing much of anything but try and fill plot. |
Yeah that was him, he just seemed too much like a "We're writing this charecter for you to like, he's so cool look at how cool he is you should totaly love him!" And well... he was just boring.
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I was excited about this movie until I saw Thor.
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so a movie that was written and directed and overall had a completly different team working on it turned you off a movie that only shares one character and from what i recall two actors?
Thats... really stupid.
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They got Thor right, in my eyes. That was the hardest piece of the puzzle. With that out of the way, I can't see anything but really good stuff coming out of this.
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I thought one of the original Avengers was a female.
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So they opted for a character that was an Avenger for 1 issue instead? Captain America I can sort of understand, he wasn't the first but it was pretty close.
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| Sin Ogaris wrote: | | So they opted for a character that was an Avenger for 1 issue instead? |
Wait who? Maria Hill? She isn't an avenger she's second in command of shield.
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The Wasp was one of the original Avengers (although I was actually thinking of Scarlet Witch, but she joined later).
The Hulk, however, left the Avengers after the first issue and was replaced by Captain America a few issues after that.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah but he was a founding member! That gives him crew rights for life!
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| Benza wrote: | so a movie that was written and directed and overall had a completly different team working on it turned you off a movie that only shares one character and from what i recall two actors?
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I was more getting at the idea that Thor has turned me off comic book movies for the moment. The last couple of comic book movies I've seen (Iron Man 2 and now Thor) weren't that great.
Thor had a few cool moments, but so did Iron Man 2. The problem in both cases, for me, was that the cool moments didn't add up to a great film (although it was hilarious to see Stringer Bell as Heimdall). I didn't really find any of the characters that compelling, and the setting was pretty bleh. I know it's the first film in what's clearly going to be a franchise, so they had to get all the backstory out of the way, but, I guess Thor's backstory just isn't that interesting to tell in a movie. I dunno. My inner Norse mythology nerd was raging at some of the more obvious mistakes, too (although they mostly got it right).
Also, going into the movie knowing that BRIAN BLESSED was originally going to play Odin didn't help.
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Were they Norse mythology mistakes, or were they just Hollywoodised and dumbed down for the masses?
Same thing regarding Hulk instead of Wasp in the Avengers movie... people recognise the Hulk, nobody knows who Wasp is.
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| Sin Ogaris wrote: | The Wasp was one of the original Avengers (although I was actually thinking of Scarlet Witch, but she joined later).
The Hulk, however, left the Avengers after the first issue and was replaced by Captain America a few issues after that. |
He may have left after the first issue but he's maintained his place in the avengers in most other continuities, he plays an important part in Ultimates (The ultimate universe avengers) he's a regular member in Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes, he was in the avengers back in marvel super heroes cartoon back in the 60's etc.
Basically it comes down to the fact that more people will go pay to see a movie with the hulk then a movie with wasp in it.
That and wasp is a horrible horrible character in everything bar EMH. She's a horrible shrill manipulative irritating bitch.
| Quote: | | My inner Norse mythology nerd was raging at some of the more obvious mistakes, too |
This isn't based on Norse Mythology, it's based on the comics. I'm pretty sure Thor never fought a cyborg space horse who was then deemed worthy of the powers of Thor and got given his own hammer to bust around the universe smiting the fuck out of people and attempting to kill gods. But if they pull Beta Ray Bill for the sequal shit is going to get awesome
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The only problem with Thor as a movie was that given so much of it was based on existing mythology, it was hard to surprise anyone with the content.
Thor, as a movie, was solid. Just not fantastic.
However, for me it was good enough to actually take interest in the Captain America movie, when I had no interest at all prior.
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First poster!
Not great but still exciting. I'm still having a hard time beleiving this is actually happening.
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Clearer picture? Sure! Why not?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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you just have to one up me don't ya BurnZ 
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