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| Mass Effect 3 appears on EA Store by Jarrod |  | | PALGN News: The calm before the storm. | | [View Article] |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:34 am Post subject: |
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EA has taken the original listing down, but the boxarts are still hosted on the server.
  
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Damn I loved ME2 but I am really getting sick of the Bioware formula. Rally a whole bunch of companions in missions that feel separate from one another and then one big "epic" final mission. Disappointing that the plot has already been given away but at least it will still be an awesome ride.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Rally the civilizations? Haven't we been doing that for two games already? I'm already thinking of going on blackout.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Its been a pretty obvious cliche coming. BioWare has been playing the annoying 'hur durp humanity special' card for awhile now, and the way things played out in ME2 made the 'recruit the races' plot line an almost certainty.
I love BioWare's games, but their story concepts have truly taken a nose dive for the ultra cliche. They're great fun, which I guess is the most important thing, but by god are they predictable and cliche.
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Man, there are some cynical responses here. +1 for the internets.
Yes, a battle on Earth is predictable - thought it was obvious that the story was setting for this.
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Can you really blame people for being cynical? Nobody is doubting it will be fun, but it doesn't mean we want Dragon Age in Space. The whole 'recruit the races' thing is a terribly overused trope from Tolkien's years.
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I'm not that cynical. Actually if Dragon Age had not come out I would have thought it a great idea but both these games were made around the same time in conception and I would have thought someone at Bioware would have pointed it out. The Earth thing I should have counted on as they were moving in that direction since 2 and the Mass Effect forums suspected Earth was the final battle before ME1 had came out. GOTY of 2011 as I think it will come out around this time next year. As long as some of these big decision stuff that happened in 1 effects 3 it will be the greatest gaming trilogy and not have minor variations like they had in 2.
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You know what, if they put a massive focus on rallying the civilisations together. They had fucking better have a female Turian, Salarian and Krogan models in the game then.
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To be fair though, there hasn't been an original Sci-fi concept since... I can't remember when. Firefly maybe? And not one for ages before then either.
Cloning labs, rogue A.I.s, ancient all-powerful races, the list goes on. The entire genre at this point is one big rehash, ad infinitum.
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True that. Mass Effect was like one big homage to all the sci-fi tropes we've grown to love over the years. A little bit of Stargate, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, Star Wars, and tons of others rolled into one.
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Cowboys in space isn't exactly original.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Allow me to be the first person in this thread who isn't being cynical!
*squeals of excitement*
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Firefly did have space whores thats, oh wait nevermind.
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| Benza wrote: | | Cowboys in space isn't exactly original. |
Educate me.
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| Capoeira wrote: | | Educate me. |
Cowboy Bebop maybe?
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That's what I was thinking but I'm pretty sure there aren't actually any cowboys in that. Why it's called 'Cowboy' Bebop is beyond me. Why 'Bebop' is in the title is even more of a mystery.
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| Capoeira wrote: | | That's what I was thinking but I'm pretty sure there aren't actually any cowboys in that. Why it's called 'Cowboy' Bebop is beyond me. Why 'Bebop' is in the title is even more of a mystery. |
Bebop is a style of jazz music.
The cowboy part comes from the theme's and the kind of stories it tells rather then the visual style. Although there was a cowboy in it who rode his horse around in space ships.
There's an entire genre called space westerns Firefly just took it to it's logical conclusion.
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| Capoeira wrote: | | Educate me. |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:36 am Post subject: |
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the original Star Wars trilogy has considerable western influences throughout them too - i mean if you look at Tatooine, it's got most the staples - remote farms, troop garrisons, bandit enclaves, hostile indigenous people, bounty hunters, civil war.
Actually, you could almost see Firefly as a kind of "what if" post-Star Wars universe. "what if the rebel alliance had been the ones to lose?" if you saw them as the Brown Coats.
and even Star Trek had a kind of Western theme underlying all the sterility too, more of the lone White Hat travelling the wild "Final Frontier".
I'm sure the links go back further still.
(EDIT: ok, just clicked Benza's link. probably would've been quicker to have just copied and pasted that article...)
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Most sci-fis set in space have some kind of cowboy and pirate influences, if just for the 'space is the final frontier' motif.
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additionally, i didn't mean to appear on the negative side of things - i, for one, am very much looking forwards to more Mass Effect, and despite being a reasonably incestuous genre, i love my sci-fi.
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On the other hand, I quite dislike sci-fi, I've no stomach for Star Wars and such, so Mass Effect is generally the only tolerable dose of it I get. Bioware makes fantastic a story which would normally send me running. Having not seen Lord of the Rings or sci-fi clichés makes it a pretty fresh series for me. I certainly didn't get the feeling that 2 was any kind of a rehash of 1, so I've no reason to believe 3 won't be any less original either.
(Same goes for Dragon Age fyi, I can't stand fantasy as a genre, but Bioware just make it awesome.)
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