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| STANKY J wrote: | so you wouldn't mind if they remove video, music or photos? what about the browser?  |
now you're being RIDICULOUS..
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| THEMAN wrote: | Who here uses linux?
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People who hate windows
/boomtish * gets coat and runs  |
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I must admit, coming home to read theman and andyballina's comments throughout this thread has really brightened my day.
Haven't lol'ed so hard at ignorance like that for quite a while.
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Can you even pirate using Linux? I didn't think there were any ways to pirate games yet?
Except for that one way someone found out not too long ago, which would be too complicated for most people to do anyway.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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the good news is you can still use linux on the ps3, bad news is you cant go online on psn, or play some games that need a newer update.
but i didnt hear much complaint about the slims never having the opportunity of even installing another operating system, and im sure everyone has a computer they can use besides the ps3 right? i understand thats not the point, but im just curious how many people here actually use linux or any other operating system on the ps3?
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| john_solids wrote: | the good news is you can still use linux on the ps3, bad news is you cant go online on psn, or play some games that need a newer update.
but i didnt hear much complaint about the slims never having the opportunity of even installing another operating system, and im sure everyone has a computer they can use besides the ps3 right? i understand thats not the point, but im just curious how many people here actually use linux or any other operating system on the ps3? |
That's pretty much my view on the matter too.
We're all commenting on a rarely used feature which has better alternatives with better inputs (ie. a desktop) without having any real knowledge of why it has been patched out of both the slim, and now the rest of, the PS3s. We have to guess there's some reason, or honestly, why would they spend any time on it at all?
Granted, we're all speculating because we haven't been told exactly what the issue is, but seriously; the level of outrage here is disproportionate to the harm that's actually been incurred.
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| ANDYBALLINA wrote: | | To all you people that are whinging about this. Do you actually use the PS3 for what's it intended for? You know, its a Video Game Console. You play GAMES on it. |
Astrophysicist Replaces Supercomputer with Eight PlayStation 3s.
| Kotaku wrote: | PS3: It Only Catches a Predator
Federal agents typically used $1,100 computers to crack passwords to the seized hard drives of suspected child pornographers. Now they're using $300 PlayStation 3s to pull off the same task.
"Bad guys are encrypting their stuff now, so we need a methodology of hacking on that to try to break passwords," Claude E. Davenport, an agent in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Cyber Crimes Center, told Joseph D. Szydlowski of the Scripps Howard Foundation Wire. "The Playstation 3 - its processing component - is perfect for large-scale library attacks."
Here's the deal. Under the Fourth Amendment, suspects in the U.S. are not required to give up passwords they use to secure their information. But the Fourth doesn't cover cops cracking their way into hardware they lawfully seize under a search warrant. That's where the power computing comes in.
In the past, they'd use a Tableau/Dell server combination running about $1,100. Then they realized they could get the same computing power out of a PS3 for a quarter of the cost, roughly. So they throw networked consoles at the problem, to unravel the nearly 282 trillion possibilities in a six-digit password.
"You take the ability of a single person to throw a few passwords at it a minute to a few million a second," Neil Condon, vice president of Public Affairs for AccessData Corp., told SHFW. Condon's company does investigations.
Here's the funny part. While Condon said that any current-gen console is capable of the same power, the PS3 is used because you can install Linux on it. Guess they're using the old PS3 Phats. Go Phat! Go!! |
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I don't care about this as I don't use Linux.Now if they removed music or movies I would bomb their HQ
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| BurnZ wrote: | | Lack of OS stuff... |
I admit the first thing I thought when I heard about the lack of linux was all the scientific and real world applications for the PS3 are going down the drain.
It's not harming anyone by just sitting there for the vast minority to use is it? Does it cost Sony money to keep the feature intact?
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| fatpizza wrote: | | BurnZ wrote: | | Lack of OS stuff... |
I admit the first thing I thought when I heard about the lack of linux was all the scientific and real world applications for the PS3 are going down the drain.
It's not harming anyone by just sitting there for the vast minority to use is it? Does it cost Sony money to keep the feature intact? |
well wouldnt it still be able to do all that, they dont need to update the old ps3's to keep using them just as super computers do they?
but as for the cost, in the long run it probably would cost them more if it is getting hacked through other operating systems.
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Well if it started to get hacked through Linux, then they could think of a solution to fix it, but removing it completely is just overkill. There isn't even any proof it can be used to do any more than create backups, which can't be played anyway.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder what Sony will remove next. Everything must go!
Backwards compatibility, UMD, the start-up chime, rumble (then it came back!), trophies on a leap year, now Linux....it's just so exciting and unexpected with these guys. God bless with them.
Great thread. I agree with all of you, keep it up.
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I like your trolling Leon XD
All the companies that use this STILL get Internet Access without updating their PS3's, it's just that they can't go on PSN or play newer games, which I don't think is intended on those FBI Server-Clusters yes?
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| LeonJ wrote: | I wonder what Sony will remove next. Everything must go!
Backwards compatibility, UMD, the start-up chime, rumble (then it came back!), trophies on a leap year, now Linux....it's just so exciting and unexpected with these guys. God bless with them.
Great thread. I agree with all of you, keep it up. |
At least Blu Ray is here to stay
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| john_solids wrote: | | well wouldnt it still be able to do all that, they dont need to update the old ps3's to keep using them just as super computers do they? |
If they need more PS3s for clusters then they'll have to search abit harder for ones without the firmware.
Or they could stockpile a heap of them now.
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As far as I am concerned Sony have an obligation to their paying customer to fix this "security issue" without removing the feature. You can't just say "Hey buy my product, it can do this" then latter say "Hey, now that I have your money I have decided you can't do that anymore". Should be illegal.
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I think it's more to do with Sony's vision for the product not matching what the consumers want.
Same thing as their XMB. It's basically had to change to be comparable with it's competitors.
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I don't think Sony should be blamed for this, blame that moron Geohot for posting the "exploit" he found through the Linux OS all over the web. He's the reason Sony is doing this and he's where any anger should be directed to.
The arrogant little shit is now coming out saying that he's going to try creating a custom firmware for the PS3... I hope he falls flat on his face.
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Look, we all well understand the threat of piracy to the PS3, but this just can't be accepted by the consumer as a worthy response. Addition by subraction has to involve the addition part. Where is the silver lining here?
SONY are admitting their system has a wound and instead of tending to that wound they're amputating the arm. It's just no acceptible.
Imagine if the exploit happened to be through the PS2 BC portion of the 60gigers....and the solution? Destroy the use of that. Would that be acceptable too?
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| fatpizza wrote: | I don't think Sony should be blamed for this, blame that moron Geohot for posting the "exploit" he found through the Linux OS all over the web. He's the reason Sony is doing this and he's where any anger should be directed to.
The arrogant little **** is now coming out saying that he's going to try creating a custom firmware for the PS3... I hope he falls flat on his face. |
Geo didn't create the problem he found it. It's a Sony problem created by Sony. Sony is part to blame and Geo is part to blame for telling everyone about it.
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I'm only speculating but maybe it's an inherent flaw that can't be fixed without compromising other parts of the system? It's been well over a month since this exploit was released and I'm pretty sure Sony would have been working hard to find a fix that didn't involve removing the feature entirely.
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Bazinga.
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bah and the game begins ( title is misleading ) , im sure he will fix it , but in-spite of what he first said hes pretty much agreed to hack it , rather then a sony move - this will likey lead else where.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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whats your problem Theman.
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He negs to hold back the tears of somebody not having the exact same opinion as him.
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