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Cyph

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: |
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I signed it today at GAME Perth CBD. Had a number of signatures there, but yeh, they need more advertising in and outside of the shop.
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Jahanzeb


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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Yesterday me, Denny, Jeremy and Gresszilla went to GAME as the PalGN mafia to sign our names and to intimidate innocent by standers to do the same (the latter isn't true )
I have asked a few of my friends and my sister to sign the petition, them being non-gamers. which as Jeremy said, doesnt matter because anyone with common sense will support our cause  _________________
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Furianshi PALGN Moderator


Status: Offline Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 1480 $poons: 513.20 Location: Brisvegas

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I mentioned the GAME petition and posted a link to this article on the Australian Namco Bandai Partners forum.
so that's 10 more people that know about it.
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Jellyfish

Status: Offline Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 5186 $poons: 22.60 Location: Melbourne, Victoria

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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I hope you guys are really going to push this. Just saw this in The Age. It'd be awesome to see Christian groups being beaten by their own game.
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Roland EveryonePlays


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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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We will Jellyfish - again, thank you for your support and marshaling those around you. We've gotta get our Facebook / social media / viral stuff working....people pulling down logos from the everyoneplays website and encouraging other people to visit a Game store. I'll start feeding updates soon too. _________________
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pom013

Status: Offline Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 1125 $poons: 235.00 Location: Wagga Wagga

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Jellyfish wrote: | | I hope you guys are really going to push this. Just saw this in The Age. It'd be awesome to see Christian groups being beaten by their own game. |
We are in! Mainstream discussion of the issue and the christian argument actually supports us, we just need to point it out a bit
| Quote: | | In backing its case, it cited 2003 research by game academic Craig Anderson that found “Violent video games are significantly associated with: increased aggressive behavior, thoughts, and affect; increased physiological arousal; and decreased prosocial (helping) behaviour” |
Sounds like a pretty good reason to up the age limit to me
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Azza


Status: Offline Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 1819 $poons: 117.80 Location: Perth

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Signed.
I feel like a Crusader. Sans the killing and violence, of course.
Although that may be because of the ratings system. _________________
Facebook | Youtube | XBL Gamertag: Comrade Azza | Steam ID: Comrade_Azza
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Fly


Status: Offline Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 1774 $poons: 250.40 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| pom013 wrote: |
We are in! Mainstream discussion of the issue and the christian argument actually supports us, we just need to point it out a bit
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There is also a paragraph in which they want community groups specifically fielded for "better" responses on a "less biased" paper / discussion, being a community group themselves this ultimately sets them as either arrogant in dismissing individual opinion, petty in calling the fielding of opinion from the AG's as totally biased and ultimately leaves a bad taste when read.
Mainstream media is almost always going to paint a bleak picture, it would probably be better if the focus was on the local papers; the leader, telegraph, advocates and such. Positive press on a community level can outweigh negative press on a state level as it is more "at home".
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Jeremy


Status: Offline Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 3031 $poons: 47.40 Location: Sydney, Australia

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Just to note, that study by Professor Anderson is highly criticised in the field of psychology. According to his contemporaries, the study lacks external validitiy, as his empirical results aren't backed up by his theoretical model and there are questions over his sampling methods. What's worse, it's the most commonly cited study by R18 opposition, despite it being rather ordinary. _________________
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Karai Pantsu PALGN Moderator


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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Forgive my ignorance, but shouldn't that also make the job of undermining it's use as a 'proof' all the easier for us? Strikes me as a good thing, rather than a bad thing. _________________
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pom013

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Fly wrote: | | There is also a paragraph in which they want community groups specifically fielded for "better" responses on a "less biased" paper / discussion, being a community group themselves this ultimately sets them as either arrogant in dismissing individual opinion, petty in calling the fielding of opinion from the AG's as totally biased and ultimately leaves a bad taste when read. |
Christian lobby, what did you expect? Dont get too down about it
| Jeremy wrote: | | Just to note, that study by Professor Anderson is highly criticised in the field of psychology. According to his contemporaries, the study lacks external validitiy, as his empirical results aren't backed up by his theoretical model and there are questions over his sampling methods. What's worse, it's the most commonly cited study by R18 opposition, despite it being rather ordinary. |
And this works in with my original excitement. The mainstream media is important for widespread awareness. Even if people dont know ALL the details, the fact that they are aware that the debate is taking place is an important first step.
Furthermore, if our opposition want to keep making the same tired old argument with the same broken evidence thats fine as well because we are moving in new ways and their evidence supports our cause just as well as it does theirs.
Positivity People!!!
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Jeremy


Status: Offline Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 3031 $poons: 47.40 Location: Sydney, Australia

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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Karai Pantsu wrote: | | Forgive my ignorance, but shouldn't that also make the job of undermining it's use as a 'proof' all the easier for us? Strikes me as a good thing, rather than a bad thing. |
The bad thing is that the mainstream media and politicians push this as sacred. It's up to us to debunk this and show it as myth  _________________
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christicehurst

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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: |
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I have signed the petition even if I have always hated GAME. _________________
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Fly


Status: Offline Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 1774 $poons: 250.40 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| pom013 wrote: |
Christian lobby, what did you expect? Dont get too down about it |
Everyone has an agenda to push, ourselves included, I merely pointed out that the article effectively pushes theirs to the forefront for those who read it in a way it could be read. It's an exercise in how not to approach the public / media side of the argument.
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Roland EveryonePlays


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TheAnswer


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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Just received an email from GAME about this
Hopefully this gets the petition out to more people and great to see support behind this. _________________ RIP Buddha 19/10/1952 - 03/01/2004
Buy video games for cheap here: http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-3hy3-49-en.html
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RooRage


Status: Offline Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 212 $poons: 18.80 Location: Adelaide

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Fly


Status: Offline Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 1774 $poons: 250.40 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have returned from the gardens of water with ill tidings. After mounting the iron steed and finding that others were in such steeds of wheels we found that all the rupees were in fact taken, no doubt by the fiends who pillaged the iron steeds parked on the sidewalk (which there was several along the calder actually, good and proper boned) upon reaching the gardens of water we trekked through dormant steeds, one totally rear-ended but it's OK, it's an orange hatchback!
So we find the place of purple people expecting to unleash hell so as not to be eaten for being people and hark.
Nothing.
Dismayed, we journeyed around the store for any signs of common sense yet at every turn we were only met with snickers from the trolls behind the counter. Failing the quest and incurring the penalty of it on my pristine class list we approached the counter to find a book. A troll was encountered who had obviously eaten someone who enjoyed bubblegum for trolls do not enjoy food of men. The petition signed, we escaped with our lives.
In case you can't be stuffed reading that, Watergardens staff were about as helpful as a simultaneous kick in the face and groin, they made no mention to anything outside of the common store practice of;
"Are you right there?" -browsing
"Do you need anything" -approaching desk
there were no indications, no directions, nor highlighting, nothing upon the indication of "I'm just here to sign this petition" and all three simply looked as if I had just slapped their mothers and gone back to gossiping.
Pathetic.
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Jeremy


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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I went to GAME on Pitt st Mall today and they weren't too interested either. Eastgardens were really good about it.
If anyone does have a bad GAME experience from trying to sign the petition, please post here. _________________
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Fly


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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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It's not that it was bad as it was quite easy to walk up to the counter and sign since the store was as dead as a horse being flogged, but as far as effort on their behalf goes, it was blatantly non existent. No interest from any 3 of the staff, no interest to engage in conversation about the petition given numerous instances to do so, no mention to a bloke who walked in, spent 5mins looking and walked out and no advertisement, even minimal, that the petition was there to begin with.
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Jeremy


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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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And that's a problem. By letting us know about this, we can pass it onto GAME management and make sure that it is a known issue. _________________
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Spanca PALGN Moderator


Status: Offline Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 7926 $poons: 106.00 Location: Sydney

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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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There's a GAME in Pitt St mall? I was wandering all around there killing time today waiting for something else and I could have signed today! I'll endeavour to go to my local store tomorrow, although the staff there have almost always (one exception only) been utter buffoons who have readily made snide remarks regarding a choice of game or trade in deals. _________________
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Jeremy


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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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^Yeah, it's actually in the food court below Myer. A little further down from Subway and opposite a cookie/muffin place. The guy who looked like the manager was very ambivalent when I came into talk about it... _________________
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RooRage


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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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The one that I spoke of earlier on in this thread (I think) where my wife and I signed was at Marion in S.A.
Hopefully the managers will give them a kick up the bum to get them to push it more.
@Fly - Very eloquent!
You should return and smite them oh mighty smiter!! _________________
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dloiscute


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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Signed today ^___^ _________________
☑Tekken
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