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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i know this may seem a stupid thing to say but...but isn't this all pointless until that Attorney-General Michael Atkinson retires or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jason picker wrote:
There are other options though. The ACT's AG said there may be reason to change the laws if public opinion was strong so that the introduction of the R rating (or other popular changes) can't be stopped by one AG.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is an extremely helpful article Jeremy, I'll definitely be using it over the weekend so I can get my submission ready to go, and I would encourage anyone who hasn't yet to do the same.

It's the best thing any of us can do at this point in time to help get an R18 rating for games in this country.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the article. I had almost left my run too late. So I submitted mine on Tuesday.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is an incredibly helpful article for anybody who has an opinion on this and wants their voice heard, but didn't previously know how to go about making a submission.

I don't need to go into how important having an R18+ rating is in this country; so just go ahead and make your submissions, folks!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am probably the only hardcore gamer that doesn't want an R18 rating I guess. Or rather, doesn't mind if I miss out on some games because of it.

A couple of points:

- The current system is too inconsistent. There is no way in hell that Modern Warfare 2 should have been ok'd. Even the God of War 3 demo pushed the boundaries beyond what I thought was possible for MA15+.

And some banned/refused games are not even that bad from what I've seen or experienced.

- Saying stuff along the lines of if the majority of the public are for 18+ then that strengthens the case is funny. If 99% of a country was for easy access to guns or porn, would majority rule? Of course not.

- I for one, bought MW2 and am going to buy Gof of War 3 day one and enjoy the violence but wouldn't whinge if they never got released here and will also still play them without excessive the violence.

- I am 32 and can safely say I have never been and never will be influenced by any violence or whatever from games... and I'm sure MOST gamers would be in the same boat. However, the fact of the matter is, kids are easily influenced and the parents of the modern generation are pathetic excuses for parents and not only don't know or care what their kids do, but sometimes are even responsible for providing them with content in DVD's and games that they have no reason to be seeing/playing.

Were I used to work, I told a kid he was too young to buy GTA... 5 mins later his Mum comes up to buy the game, I tell her exactly what's in the game, she hesitates for a second, the 11 or 12 year old kid swears and threatens the Mum and she buys it for him.

- Australia has been a MUCH safer place (or rather, has not progressed into a more dangerous place) since removing firearms and any little thing they can add to that (including, not allowing unnecessary content into the country through games) will only help.

Sure we have the right as adults to watch and play what we want but seriously, does an extra splash of blood or a graphic murder scene really add to a gaming experience?

Of course bloody not.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Peoples!

There are only a few days to go. If you haven't made your submissions, you should do it as soon as possible!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MX in Sydney had a story about this on their front page yesterday. They said Grow Up Australia had received about 6500 submissions (to be forwarded on I believe) but the more that are sent in the better. Submissions are due by February 28th, so get them in ASAP. There's no point waking up on March 1st and wishing you'd sent something, anything in!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also get the message out to your friends any way you can!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come on guys, the more the merrier. Our gamer pride depends on it!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Two words: WOW + THANKS! We had over 46,000 submissions for the R18 debate! Great work all! http://tinyurl.com/yght2yb

found that over twitter , guess that's where all the submissions are going
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good article Jeremy. I submitted mine a few weeks ago now.
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Two words: WOW + THANKS! We had over 46,000 submissions for the R18 debate! Great work all! http://tinyurl.com/yght2yb

found that over twitter , guess that's where all the submissions are going

If that is true then R18+ is that much closer icon_biggrin.gif .
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They reported on Triple J news yesterday arvo that the government received over 50,000 submissions, which is the most for a public discussion in Australia ever.

Hopefully they were mostly in favour of the R18+ rating icon_smile.gif Its a good sign.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EB Games reported sending 46,000 submissions. 56 thousand (or so) submissions were received. Which just shows you how freaking huge EB is.

So, minimum? 82% were supportive. Probably closer to 95%+, but that's a pure guess.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They reported on Triple J news yesterday arvo that the government received over 50,000 submissions, which is the most for a public discussion in Australia ever.

Hopefully they were mostly in favour of the R18+ rating icon_smile.gif Its a good sign.

Over 40,000 of those came from the EB system, so I'd hazard a guess they were almost all in favour.

edit: well it's obvious I didn't read Jack's post before jumping the gun.
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