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All these updates sound pretty good to me, esp the combat being improved and similar to Uncharted 2 and the fact you can custimize your armor and the 30 hours of cinematics sounds amazing.
I can't wait for this.
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| LeonJ wrote: | I don't like the whole importing a character thing.
I can't remember what choices I made in ME and how I upgraded him. |
Well, concerning the second point, from what I gather, you can essentially remake your character, which also pretty much gives you a reason for why you're back at level 1.
Kotaku had a spoilerific post about the first 10 minutes of ME2, which explained it, but I can't for the life of me find it.
Also, 100 choices that carry over?
Seriously?
I can't even remember half a dozen that would make a difference.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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30 hours of cinematics? Ugh. This sounds less up my alley.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: |
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^ By 'cinematics', they probably mean any time you talk/interact with a character (presumably including every possible branching conversation path).
Not even MGS4 had 30 hours of actual cinematics.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:02 am Post subject: |
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I am just a little confused, especially concerning the choices in the original effecting the new game. What does that mean to silly people like me who saved over their completed game with a new character who is still sitting there on the first planet?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Skruggs, it'll be based purely on which character you choose to import. I think it will be an extension of the New Game+ feature from Mass Effect 1, so it will only apply to a single game that you finished.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Every time you completed the game it made a save file. I don't think you can save over that
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'm praying for a 'from last time' start where you can select the things you wanted to happen.
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http://kotaku.com/5446283/mass-effect-2-sets-its-sights-on-the-modern-warfare-crowd
Is it just me, or does this sound staggeringly wrong headed?
Don't get me wrong. Arguing, "Those mechanics work better so let's steal them" is fine.
But you're not going to steal FPS fans to an RPG. You're just not. Action games are designed around minimal downtime to maximum action. The entire idea of an RPG runs counter to it. Now, some gamers like both. I'm one of them.
But you can't steal the others fanbase. It just won't happen.
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Just letting everyone that EB will be selling Guides to Mass Effect 2. There will be a Collector's and a Standard.
I was told that the guides will be fairly quantity, so I got them to get one of each in for me and I'll decide which one I want when I get the game.
No idea whats extra in the Collector's Edition, as the manager didn't know, all he knew was its Hardcover.
I don't know about others, but I like Game Guides for RPG's, I find them very helpful, but with the limited quantity being given to each store it may pay to pre order.
Oh yeah, the Collectors will be $50 and Standard will be $30, but they will have them at 20% off with the purchase of the game.
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| ANDYBALLINA wrote: |
Oh yeah, the Collectors will be $50 and Standard will be $30, but they will have them at 20% off with the purchase of the game. |
Do you have any idea what happens with this if you've preordered your copy from their online store?
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| Vervain wrote: | | ANDYBALLINA wrote: |
Oh yeah, the Collectors will be $50 and Standard will be $30, but they will have them at 20% off with the purchase of the game. |
Do you have any idea what happens with this if you've preordered your copy from their online store? |
That's easy, just take the receipt into a store as proof you got it and they will do the discount. I did that with the Dragon Age Guide.
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| ANDYBALLINA wrote: |
That's easy, just take the receipt into a store as proof you got it and they will do the discount. I did that with the Dragon Age Guide. |
Awesome. Thanks for that Andy, seems I'll be getting the Collector's Guide to go with my Collector's Edition copy of the game then.
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| Vervain wrote: | | ANDYBALLINA wrote: |
That's easy, just take the receipt into a store as proof you got it and they will do the discount. I did that with the Dragon Age Guide. |
Awesome. Thanks for that Andy, seems I'll be getting the Collector's Guide to go with my Collector's Edition copy of the game then. |
Your welcome. Also what made you pre order the game online? Wouldn't it be cheaper or the same price to get it in store?
Then you could get the game and guide on launch.
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Have to admit, im not really looking forward to this one, mainly due to being pretty underwhelmed with Dragon Age: Origins, and I can say 100%, that if you didnt love Dragon Age, you wont like this Bioware always use the same battle engine and gameplay in most of their games since Knights of the Old Republic on the Xbox, which to me, remains their best ever console game). Dragon Age to me, was well made, but was missing the character of most JRPGs have in spades (Final Fantasy, Lost Odyssey, the Tales series, Suikoden series) and missing the interactivity of Oblivion (walking in a room, only being able to interact with one item in the entire room, unlike the Elder Scrolls games where if you can see it, you can interact with it). The NPCs and even your own characters dialogue is beyond boring and even 30 hours into Dragon Age, I found myself not giving a rats about any of my characters, which should never happen in an RPG.
In KOTOR, the characters you cared about (not on the same scale as say when Sephiroth killed Aeris in FFVII during the first time I played it back in 1998) but you actually cared about whether you were going to turn on your party member or not. Bioware to me have a lot to prove with MS2 and from all the trailers ive seen thus far, the character and environmental design looks as stale as three day old coffee.
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| ANDYBALLINA wrote: |
Your welcome. Also what made you pre order the game online? Wouldn't it be cheaper or the same price to get it in store?
Then you could get the game and guide on launch. |
I preordered it online because there was no real guarantee that I'd have the time to be able to get down to EB on launch day due to work. So I thought I'd just order it online and get rid of that part. Plus I just wanted to preorder it as soon as possible. 
It cost me the same amount as getting it instore so I didn't really mind too much which way I got it anyway.
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| dalmatian wrote: | | Have to admit, im not really looking forward to this one, mainly due to being pretty underwhelmed with Dragon Age: Origins, and I can say 100%, that if you didnt love Dragon Age, you wont like this Bioware always use the same battle engine and gameplay in most of their games |
Jade Empire didn't use the same engine as KOTOR.
Mass Effect didn't.
In fact, the only one which used even a SIMILAR engine was Dragon Age: Origins.
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| ANDYBALLINA wrote: | Just letting everyone that EB will be selling Guides to Mass Effect 2. There will be a Collector's and a Standard.
No idea whats extra in the Collector's Edition, as the manager didn't know, all he knew was its Hardcover. |
Mass Effect 2 Official Game Guide
* Fully labeled, exclusive maps for all areas will ensure that players will find every pick-up in the game!
* Complete details on all your squadmates and their talents
* Walkthroughs for all quests will ensure you get the job done
* Comic Book preview! Page from the Mass Effect comic book revealed in the Prima guide!
Mass Effect 2 Official Game Guide: Collector's Edition
* Includes everything in the standard edition, plus ...
* Exclusive behind the scenes content Concept art and studio insider info into the creation of Mass Effect 2
* Hardcover edition
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| dalmatian wrote: | | Have to admit, im not really looking forward to this one, mainly due to being pretty underwhelmed with Dragon Age: Origins, and I can say 100%, that if you didnt love Dragon Age, you wont like this Bioware always use the same battle engine and gameplay in most of their games . |
I don't agree with this at all. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are two completely different RPG's. One is Sci Fi with a third person shooter battle system and one is Fantasy with real time third person action combat.
They have different feels in there combat system.
Just cause you didn't like Dragon Age, it does not mean you won't like Mass Effect 2.
Also, thanks Chopbusted. Hmmmm I wonder if the Collectors edition of the guide will feature different art from the Art Book that comes with the game.
Still I think I'll get the Collectors Guide.
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BioWare revealed today that another Mass Effect novel is on the way. It's called Mass Effect: Retribution and it sounds like a prequel to Mass Effect 2.
The Illusive Man, head of the militant pro-human organization Cerberus, plays a big role in Retribution. He's intent on learning more about the Reapers, the murderous race encounted by Commander Shepard in Mass Effect. To gain an understanding of this new enemy, he decides to inject a test subject with their technology.
Retribution was penned by Drew Karpyshyn, who served as lead writer on the first Mass Effect. This is the third ME novel he's penned, the first two being Mass Effect: Revelation and Mass Effect: Ascension.
Update:
Retribution is set in the universe fans know well from the video game and novel series-one in which humanity has explored the very farthest reaches of the universe, only to discover the ruthless Reapers, a race bent on extinguishing all organic life.
"One man is bent on discovering the Reapers' secrets, the mysterious Illusive Man, the leader of a pro-human, black ops group, Cerberus. And he's devised the perfect plan: implant a human subject with Reaper technology in order to study the enemy.
"He also has the perfect test subject-Paul Grayson, an ex-Cerberus operative. Grayson betrayed Cerberus in order to save his daughter. So when Grayson is kidnapped and made the subject of Cerberus' evil experiments, the Illusive Man will finally have his revenge..."
Lookout for the book around July
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Are the novels any good? I'm interested in getting them, but wanted some opinions on them.
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never ever heard about mass effect novels.but will look into may be my game shop should know more about it.
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It's a bit strange, but I can kinda see their stance. The gunplay in ME is waaay too clunky to hook the shooter nuts. To be frank, most RPGs that try shooting mechanics turn out the same way.
For the combat in ME2 they've ditched a lot of the stats and instead focused on making in play like a shooter. Recoil and aiming is now player skill related, not stat related. I guess that's where they're coming from, and it's a change I agree with.
| dalmatian wrote: | | Bioware always use the same battle engine and gameplay in most of their games since Knights of the Old Republic on the Xbox, which to me, remains their best ever console game). |
ME2 plays nothing like any BioWare game to day, except maybe MDK2. It's not statistic based anymore and there's certainly no turns or anything. It plays, quite literally, like a third person shooter.
| Quote: | | but was missing the character of most JRPGs have in spades (Final Fantasy, Lost Odyssey, the Tales series, Suikoden series) and missing the interactivity of Oblivion (walking in a room, only being able to interact with one item in the entire room, unlike the Elder Scrolls games where if you can see it, you can interact with it). |
On the other end of the spectrum, I find one of the biggest problems with many modern JRPGs is their total lack of originality in characters. They're so frequently cookie-cut. Oblivion is a different style of RPG. I dont see how Mass Effect could benefit from being able to interact with everything, especially when Oblivion's 'interaction' consisted of knocking cutlery off tables and physics spazzing out.
I thought ME for most part had pretty good characters, at least interesting ones, made better by an overall rich universe. Saren was a fantastic badguy, Tali, Wrex, and Garrus made great companions, and most were voiced wonderfully.
Though I can see why one would not be a fan of BioWare RPGs. I think ME2 might seperate people even further, actually. Some people will no doubt be annoyed at the removal of stats for combat, while others will finally be able to enjoy it.
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Wow I just realised that Miranda is an Aussie. With what Bioware are doing to the classes I might go on the Assassin route.
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