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| Fetidchimp wrote: | | Benza wrote: | | MrAndyPuppy wrote: | | So maybe this game isn't aimed at the hardcore GH players? Given the premise - Lego characters and loose story, coupled with the tracks that have been announced so far, this sounds like a more accessible version of Rock Band for a younger crowd, or one that's not into the heavy rock/metal that's on the other RB/GH games. |
Wow some actual sense.
Alot of people in this thread are being completly retarded.
This game isn't for you it's for younger kids that don't know or care who REM or Black Sabath are.
Just cause it's not the music you like doesn't mean it's bad. |
yeah thats why they did it  They all sat down and said, you know we really need to give something back to the community.....you know all those younger kids that grew up on Europe and Blur...... |
I think you're being a little obtuse here, Fetid.  That's not what I said.
I'm actually pretty excited about this - it's a game aimed at a younger market which traditionally has scored half-arsed efforts because people think they're not an important market segment. However, combining a great brand - Lego, with a great developer - Harmonix, and with a great accessible gaming concept - Rock Band, gives me hope that there will be a very decent game to show other developers it's worth putting in the effort.
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i know thats not what you said, i was talking to benza
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| Fetidchimp wrote: | | Benza wrote: | | MrAndyPuppy wrote: | | So maybe this game isn't aimed at the hardcore GH players? Given the premise - Lego characters and loose story, coupled with the tracks that have been announced so far, this sounds like a more accessible version of Rock Band for a younger crowd, or one that's not into the heavy rock/metal that's on the other RB/GH games. |
Wow some actual sense.
Alot of people in this thread are being completly retarded.
This game isn't for you it's for younger kids that don't know or care who REM or Black Sabath are.
Just cause it's not the music you like doesn't mean it's bad. |
yeah thats why they did it They all sat down and said, you know we really need to give something back to the community.....you know all those younger kids that grew up on Europe and Blur...... |
Show me a kid that doesn't like Final Countdown and I'll show you a kid that hasn't listend to Final countdown.
Europe and Blur, yeah the kids didn't grow up with the songs, but there songs they'd know. Little Timmy might not know what the hell you're tlaking about when you say Song 2 by Blur, but chances are when you get to the chorus he's going to recognise the song.
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Either way, I find this match up of Lego and RB a little bit of a stretch. I honestly don't feel I will enjoy anything the Lego franchise will bring to the RB game, others may differ. If the tracklist is good and the Lego bits don't get in the way (no pun intended) then I will probably still get this game, just for the added RB songs. IMO, this is an attempt to get Lego fans into RB and not the other way around. Then hopefully these players will end up buying other RB games... I don't see Lego getting a great deal out of this as their games seem to bear little resemblance to Lego RB (most are platformer/action games).
What next, Lego Halo/COD? Hmmm actually, that one sounds a whole lot better! In fact I'd preorder that right now!
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| Benza wrote: | | Fetidchimp wrote: | | Benza wrote: | | MrAndyPuppy wrote: | | So maybe this game isn't aimed at the hardcore GH players? Given the premise - Lego characters and loose story, coupled with the tracks that have been announced so far, this sounds like a more accessible version of Rock Band for a younger crowd, or one that's not into the heavy rock/metal that's on the other RB/GH games. |
Wow some actual sense.
Alot of people in this thread are being completly retarded.
This game isn't for you it's for younger kids that don't know or care who REM or Black Sabath are.
Just cause it's not the music you like doesn't mean it's bad. |
yeah thats why they did it They all sat down and said, you know we really need to give something back to the community.....you know all those younger kids that grew up on Europe and Blur...... |
Show me a kid that doesn't like Final Countdown and I'll show you a kid that hasn't listend to Final countdown.
Europe and Blur, yeah the kids didn't grow up with the songs, but there songs they'd know. Little Timmy might not know what the hell you're tlaking about when you say Song 2 by Blur, but chances are when you get to the chorus he's going to recognise the song. |
It's Billy!Everyone knows the nondescript kid used in metaphors and analogies is always 'LiL Billy'.God, get with the program.
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It has some songs people like, and others that they don't. So that means it's a stupid idea and shouldn't be released?
That describes every music-rhythm game. Ever.
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| the doag wrote: | | This just seems stupid. Pure exploitation. |
Quick question. What's more exploitative: LEGO Rock Band, which at least uses new character models and has a new songs, or Guitar Hero Greatest Hits, which uses the same engine as GH: World Tour and recycles songs from previous GH games?
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| rufati wrote: | It has some songs people like, and others that they don't. So that means it's a stupid idea and shouldn't be released?
That describes every music-rhythm game. Ever. |
It has nothing to do with song choice for me.....I have no problem with that, but they already have a substantial music store for these songs and they could add lego characters also as dlc. I can see why they did Beatles rock band, just, i just think they will be witholding songs from the music store now so they can release jug band and rubber band or whatever band down the track.
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| Infested Jibbs wrote: |
It's Billy!Everyone knows the nondescript kid used in metaphors and analogies is always 'LiL Billy'.God, get with the program. |
I'm just a rebel man, hardcore like a mother fucker.
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| Infested Jibbs wrote: | | It's Billy!Everyone knows the nondescript kid used in metaphors and analogies is always 'LiL Billy'.God, get with the program. |
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Why didn't they just call the thing Rock Band 08 and Rock Band 09 cause the way they are going its turning into EA and the same old shit over and over.
Wooo Lego Rock Band, lets get all the retards to buy another full price game when we could just release a patch and some new songs, nice job Harmonix might aswell just call yourself EA Harmonix while you're at it.
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| Benza wrote: | This game isn't for you it's for younger kids that don't know or care who REM or Black Sabath are.
Just cause it's not the music you like doesn't mean it's bad. |
You're completely right. I think it's bad because Lego Star Wars was a Lego parody of 6 Star Wars films, Lego Indy was a parody of 3 Indiana Jones films and Lego Batman was a parody of the Batman 'universe'.
Lego RockBand is a parody of.. two videogames that are barely 2 years old?!?!
Throw in pop trash that someone who enjoyed Harmonix's original Guitar Hero titles wouldn't even spit at and you have a recipe for?
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A cash cow, selling out.. call it whatever. I've seen enough when they've announced a Pink track in a RockBand game FFS..
Sure, you point out that Lego Rockband might be marketed to a different demographic, but im sure you'd be peeved if your fave developer made a 'My First [Insert title of franchise you highly enjoy here]' too, so don't be surprised by people's reactions.
If pop music is summed up as music that is marketed to appeal to a wide range of people inspite of creativity and expression, then they should call this game Lego PopBand because I fail to find any soul in what has been announced thus far.
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| A l e x wrote: | | Wooo Lego Rock Band, lets get all the retards to buy another full price game when we could just release a patch and some new songs, nice job Harmonix might aswell just call yourself EA Harmonix while you're at it. |
the only problem with that is that not everyone has their consoles connected to the net, sure its also another way of getting more money out of people, but they would also lose some of the money they could of had from those not connected.
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| Yuppieville wrote: |
Quick question. What's more exploitative: LEGO Rock Band, which at least uses new character models and has a new songs, or Guitar Hero Greatest Hits, which uses the same engine as GH: World Tour and recycles songs from previous GH games? |
In my opinion, they're both as bad as each other. I think it all went tits up interms of quality when it was realised what a gold mine the idea was..
Guitar Hero and Guitar Hero II stand as the best in my opinion. None have come close.. even with the slew of added extras and options.
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Interesting that everyone is hating on the lego thang when i was hating on it before it was even cool to do so.
That's right, i'm bringing belligerent back.
EDIT-omg in that hotlink, it links directly to an earlier post of mine, that links to an even EARLIER time of when i was hatin on lego games.That's like back to the future shit right there.
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| Jaws wrote: |
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It isn't. It's basicly just a lighter version of rock music. You can have indy pop. It's just the style of the music. Pink is pop/rock not straight pop. Unclench a bit will ya.
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| john_solids wrote: | | A l e x wrote: | | Wooo Lego Rock Band, lets get all the retards to buy another full price game when we could just release a patch and some new songs, nice job Harmonix might aswell just call yourself EA Harmonix while you're at it. |
the only problem with that is that not everyone has their consoles connected to the net, sure its also another way of getting more money out of people, but they would also lose some of the money they could of had from those not connected. |
Well yea i didn't think about that but still all these guitar heroes and rock bands are getting way out of hand.
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| Jaws wrote: | | Benza wrote: | This game isn't for you it's for younger kids that don't know or care who REM or Black Sabath are.
Just cause it's not the music you like doesn't mean it's bad. |
You're completely right. I think it's bad because Lego Star Wars was a Lego parody of 6 Star Wars films, Lego Indy was a parody of 3 Indiana Jones films and Lego Batman was a parody of the Batman 'universe'.
Lego RockBand is a parody of.. two videogames that are barely 2 years old?!?!
Throw in pop trash that someone who enjoyed Harmonix's original Guitar Hero titles wouldn't even spit at and you have a recipe for?
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A cash cow, selling out.. call it whatever. I've seen enough when they've announced a Pink track in a RockBand game FFS..
Sure, you point out that Lego Rockband might be marketed to a different demographic, but im sure you'd be peeved if your fave developer made a 'My First [Insert title of franchise you highly enjoy here]' too, so don't be surprised by people's reactions.
If pop music is summed up as music that is marketed to appeal to a wide range of people inspite of creativity and expression, then they should call this game Lego PopBand because I fail to find any soul in what has been announced thus far.
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How is this 'selling out'? Rock Band has already gone well past just being 'Rock' Band with its various country songs and kid's tv songs and whatever else, how is this different?
Clearly they wanted a game that would be more accessible to younger children (yay lego!), whilst still keeping in what makes it appealing to adults (pro tip: its going to be the same fucking shit you're doing in the other rhythm games). Its not 'My First' Rockband at all, its just slightly more accessible to everyone. Don't act like the addition of the word 'Lego' gets rid of the adult audience (pro tip #2: the same manchildren that are going to be playing video games, in particular ones with fake plastic instruments, will like lego. No doubt), nor does using pop songs people have actually heard of rather than some obscure norweigian metal band make it 'only for kids' either.
What is the problem here, exactly?
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| DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | How is this 'selling out'? Rock Band has already gone well past just being 'Rock' Band with its various country songs and kid's tv songs and whatever else, how is this different? |
Refer to my above post about Harmonix's decline in quality after choosing to embrace mainstream crap to make a bigger buck with music publishers wanting to shove their product down our throats. Ie. post Guitar Hero II. So if you refer to Lego PopBand as being "well past just being Rock" then it is no different.
| DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | What is the problem here, exactly? |
Instead of bringing back quality riffs worth 'playing' on a plastic guitar, they are marketing a piece of crap idea. Yes - when people want more money, they will drop to amazing new lows. Lego PopBand is one of them.
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Uh, that wasn't me posting.
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Edited. You and your damn rainbow pictures... 
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Yeah all the coolios are doing it.
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| Jaws wrote: | | Refer to my above post about Harmonix's decline in quality after choosing to embrace mainstream crap to make a bigger buck with music publishers wanting to shove their product down our throats. Ie. post Guitar Hero II. So if you refer to Lego PopBand as being "well past just being Rock" then it is no different. |
So if you've been disinterested in them for 'embracing mainstream crap' since after GHII, you've never been interested in Rock Band anyway. So why does this make a difference to you? You're not the target audience for the 'Rock Band' bit, and you're probably not the target audience for the 'Lego' bit. So none of the game is designed for you anyway.
| Jaws wrote: | | Instead of bringing back quality riffs worth 'playing' on a plastic guitar, they are marketing a piece of crap idea. Yes - when people want more money, they will drop to amazing new lows. Lego PopBand is one of them. |
Rock Band has always been about more than just being a 'lets put fifty bajillion notes onto the highway so people can feel like a hardcore geetah player' game. Its a band game. Its a party game. Lego Rock Band will play that up even more. Kung Fu Fighting will get an absolute workout. It will be worth 'playing', ridiculous note highway or not.
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This is where our opinions differ so you really need to accept that. Who said that this thread is only for people who have positive things to say about the game and idea?
Back to my point: It's easy to see EA's 'strategy' hard at work here.
When comparing the two (ie. GH and RB), it seems that RockBand is slower and less challenging to play. A party game you say? Sure, why not. When im clicking the plastic buttons and strum, I would like a challenge instead of a yawn fest though. Isn't that the point of these games? To challenge your co-ordination? I would rather be playing "Psychobilly Freakout" over the teen angst BS that Paramore crap out any day.
On the other hand, there are alot of things that Harmonix have done right and Neversoft still need work on. This is completely besides the point and irrelevant to this discussion though.
If you're looking forward to this game, that's great. Dont take my posts as trying to knock down yours or anyone's excitement at all.
I just think that after such a solid effort on the originals, things have been taken down a few notches in the name of the almighty dollar and I personally find that Harmonix teaming up with Lego is simply grasping at straws.. uhh.. wallets and it's laughable.
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It seems I am the only one that thinks this game could be awesome, as long as it has a soundtrack to back it up and some features to actually make it worth purchasing(DLC, lego themed modes etc).
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