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Jahanzeb


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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject: Fight Club: Round 1 FIGHT!! |
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Weāve seen dedicated threads for adventure games and RPGs, and we have some very active Marvel vs Capcom, Street Fighter and Tekken threads, but fighting games deserve some more love.
Iām sure some of you may know, but I absolutely adore fighting games. I am by no means a very good player, I probably wouldnāt last a round in a tournament but I appreciate them, understand the beauty and depth of the mechanics and above allā¦I just love to fight. My motto has always been to āLive for the Battleā, I donāt care if I win or lose, and I look to create memorable and exciting battles with awestruck worthy moments. I love a good quality and explosive battle.
Fighting games are brilliant and I donāt care what anyone says, but fighting games are where youāll find true competition. Itās all about two warriors battling out to the finish, where skills, know-how, mind games and razor sharp reflexes come into play. All the tournaments that take place at such a large scale are a testament to this. Fighting games are right up there with RTS and FPS as widely played and appreciated competitive games.
So this is another list topic, you talk about favourite fighting games and share your memories. You can list as you like, or you could just rant about your memories as you like..doesnāt matter..but I will start of with a list of fighting games that are dear to me.
10. Dead or Alive Ultimate
Yes I listed a DOA game. Yes they are shallow and button masher friendly, but this game was my most played Xbox game. Technically and visually, it pretty much raised the bar for 3D fighting games. What I loved most about it was its arenas featuring full 3D, variable terrain, breakable walls, several unique areas within each area. It was so awesome to knock people off buildings, down the stairs. Oh and the final stage had real time weather change!! That aside, it was immensely fun, accessible, fluid and just an absolute blast to play.
Yesā¦I also totally loved the sex appeal and unique physics too . Gotta love all the 20+ outfits the DOA ladies had in the game
9. Soul Edge
Soul Calibur isnāt on my list, I donāt dislike Soul Calibur, in fact I enjoy them quite a lot and have played just about every release but none of them reeled me in the same way as its predecessor, Soul Edge. Soul Edge was an amazing looking game for its time and one of the earliest weapon based fighting games. Soul Edge to me felt more balanced, tactical and polished than any of the Soul Calibur games, I was hooked on it for ages. It also had one thing that never appeared in the sequels: Weapon Break. In Soul Edge, you could lose your weapon and would have to fight the remainder of the bout with your fists. That to me was very awesome.
8. The King of Fighters 2002
KOF 2002 to me is the best KOF game, some would argue KOF 98, which is fair but KOF 2002 had all my fav characters. Both KOF 98 and KOF 2002 are dubbed as dream match games, and theyre both incredibly polished and refined 2D fighting games showcasing the very best of SNK. KOF 2002 is my most played KOF title, and the remake āUnlimited Matchā is one of my fav XBLA releases.
7. BlazBlue
Iāve reviewed both BlazBlue releases for PALGN, so itās clear by now that I love these games. It really takes the 2D fighting genre to the next level and in terms of gameplay, art style, visuals and storytellingā¦it really is what a modern fighting game ought to be like.
6. Rival Schools
The PSone version of Rival Schools is perhaps one of the best fighting game packages I ever played. It was a school themed fighting game with really cool and colourful characters, bright and vibrant graphics with plenty of eye candy and really fun and accessible gameplay. It was chock full of extras, with a variety of sports based mini-games and one really weird massage mini-game. It was just a really fun game to play and I was hooked on it for ages, still hhave the opening theme playing in my head.
5. Marvel vs Capcom
As cool as Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Marvel vs Capcom 3 were, they donāt come close to the original in my opinion. The original MvC had the level of polish and character balance that is sorely lacking in MvC 2 and MvC 3. The original MvC felt perfect to me, while the sequels for the most part felt a bit messy. MvC may have a much smaller roster but they were all nicely tuned and unique. The problem with MvC 2 and MvC 3 is that a large characters just feel a bit undone, some overpowered, some underpowered, some having way more moves than others, some having similar attacks that other characters have (like the projectile beam..ugh).
4. Tekken 4
Considered to be the black sheep of the Tekken series, Tekken 4 is my most played and absolute fav entry. It took a bold step into offering a new and modern experience, with its fluid 3D movement, open areans that had variable terrain and were scattered with objects, position switching and pushing mechanism and some cool wall combos and techniques. Tekken games are generally all about 100% offence for the most part with bouts being quick and fast. Tekken 4 however had a much slower and tactical pace, which I loved and it was a āthinking manāsā fighting game to me. I remember being able to sidestep behind a tree to avoid getting hammered by a 10 hit combo, and I also liked how I could drag my opponent into a wall and switch positions. My friends and I played this almost every week from 2002 till 2008, and I donāt care about technical mumbo jumbo like frames and suchā¦I would rather have a modern Tekken title.
3. Capcom vs SNK 2
Featuring an all star dream-cast of SNK and Capcom characters, this was also one of my most played fighting games ever. My friends and I would play it for hours and pick one stage..the London Stageā¦and battle to the groovy music. Capcom vs SNK 2 was massive, featuring gauge meters from both Capcom and Snk titles and a massive cast. Sure some sprites seemed recycled from past games, SNK characters may have been nerfed down a bit too much but it was still a fast paced, exciting and explosive fighting game and my fav āVSā game of all time.
2. Guilty Gear X2
Heavy Metal rock overdrive, a zany cast of bad ass characters, superb 2D sprites that look amazing even today and an exciting battle system. I love BlazBlue, but Guilty Gear is the real deal. Iāve played through X2 and all its subsequent expansions to death. What I loved about it was itās extremely fluid and accessible combo system, each character only had a few moves but they could be chained together to create some breathtaking chains in any way that you liked, it never really restricts you and the wealth of offensive and defensive techniques was also awesome. Itās such a polished, deep, free flowing and immense title featuring some amazing rock music and art direction.
1.Street Fighter Alpha 3
I know Street Fighter IV is the flavor of the month but to me, Street Fighter Alpha 3 was the pinnacle of the series. The all star roster couldnāt be more perfect, the 2D mechanics nailed to perfection, the pace was excellent, and it offered three unique fighting systems that really changed how you played the game, the combo intensive V-sim mode was all about chaining together 100+ hit combos and there was even a classic mode that changed everything to āStreet Fighter IIā rules. Then of course there was the addictive RPG-like World Tour mode. I consider the game to be the gold standard of 2D fighting games, and no matter how much the genre progresses in terms of visuals and gameplay, Alpha 3 to me will always be the best of them all. Hereās hoping Capcom bring this classic back to XBLA/PSN with online play, that will be my dream game!
Wowā¦I typed more than I was planning to! My list is far from comphrehensive. I didnāt list Virtua Fighter..and while I did enjoy Virtua Fighter 4 and 5 quite a lot, I have yet to dedicate the time needed to really appreciate its fine mechanics and combat system. I have recently gotten hold of a Saturn and really enjoying Fighting Vipers on it, and looking forward to trying some the platformās fighting gems. I also recently started to get into Mark of the Wolves, and while I havenāt played a lot of it, I can def see how technically impressive the combat system is.
OK thatās enough from me!
Share your fighting game love with everyone  _________________
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I'll start off with how I got into fighting games.
Up till the PS1 I didn't have an interest in fighting games other than Killer Instinct which is my first fighting game I thoroughly played.
Back when Tekken 3 was out I didn't like the look of the game.
Anyway then I got a PS1 something like ' 98 and on the demo that came with it, there was a demo of Tekken 3.You could choose between Eddy and Xiayou.I played as eddy and I was amazed at all his fliping around type moves. I really enjoyed playing it and my friends would come over and we would all play as Eddy and absolutely loved when we pulled of new moves, just mashing buttons at the time.
I enjoyed the demo so much that when I got my first paycheck from my first job ever, I went to the shop to buy Tekken 3.
Since then I have played many fighting games/franchises.Most of them I really enjoyed.The only fighting games I can remember that I could never get into are Virtua Fighter and SF. _________________ Welcome to the internet. Where any joke can turn into WWIII.
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Growing up I was always an MK kid. Fuck this pansy arse Street Fighter bull shit I want to be able to disembowl my opponents. I never really played fighting games seriously growing up though, MK was really just for shits and giggles. It wasn't till a mate at uni brought in his PS2 with Guilty Gear X2.... Fuck me is that game amazing.
That was probbably the first time I played fighting games seriously and competitivley against other people. Although I had to stop using slayer because he is fucking OP in X2 (Two of those back dash heavy punches can dizzy someone then bust out your instant kill and it's game over)
Everything about that game is amazing, the character designs are brilliant and unique, the fighting styles are great and everyone plays really differently. And the music, oh shit the music.
Gotta agree with Jahan. Blazblue is easily my fave fighting game of this generation but the moment GG 3 comes out blazblue is dead to me. Sure the drive system is awesome but the character designs have never grabbed me the same. And way too many of the designs just come off as GG X2 characters slightly changed (Valkenehien for Slayer, Jin for Ky, Tager for Potempkin etc) Hazama is still awesome though.
I also missed out on a lot of the 2D fighters growing up, so no alpha, no Fatal Fury etc. I did play the shit out of Rival Schools on the PS1 though. Kytso Akira teams for life. I loved the way the tag teams worked in it with you not being able to tag in mid fight but swapping between rounds. I really hope another game brings that back.
I enjoy MVC3 and SSF4 well enough but after playing games like Blazblue they just seem kind of half arsed in there presentation.
that said no game has ever had a character cooler then Dan.
Also gotta say I really enjoyed KOF 12, underrated as fuck. _________________
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I rememberd that Killer Instinct was actually the first fighting game I played thoroughly.I loved the hell out of that game. I learned every danger move and ultra by myself. _________________ Welcome to the internet. Where any joke can turn into WWIII.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Fight Club: Round 1 FIGHT!! |
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| Jahanzeb wrote: | | 6. Rival Schools |
Gah, that game is the ONLY game which actually made me throw my controller... I can't remember who it was I was fighting, but the character was pure cheese. My mate was watching too... He felt my anguish.
Awesome game though, it was the first introduction to my favorite character, Sakura, who I've enjoyed playing for the faster paced variant to that of Ryu & Ken these days.
I think my first proper introduction to fighters was with Mortal Kombat 2 at the video store after school. I never played it much, but got to watch a lot of the older kids duking it out. Sometimes they were nice enough to let me take over and watch their character's demise with amusement.
Damn that was a blast from the past. Good times.
And as for my top fighters:
X-Men vs Street Fighter (Huge mother final boss... YES PLEASE)
Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance (The Krypt!)
One Must Fall 2097 (Who remembers this one?)
And my all time favorite...
The Marvel vs Capcom Franchise!!!
I am a huge fan of Capcom, they have released some of my favorite titles out there, and to see all the characters being implemented into a fighter is incredible. And although I've never (ever) been able to grasp the combo techniques in the games, I've enjoyed it nonetheless. The comic style art design, tag team / assist feature, and stupidly fast paced gameplay; It blew my mind. _________________ Playing: Fallout: New Vegas
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Fight Club: Round 1 FIGHT!! |
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| ShortRaver wrote: |
One Must Fall 2097 (Who remembers this one?)
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God YES! Of every game i have every played, it was either this one or Beneath A Steel Sky which i always craved to play again. Nothing like fighting giant mechs in a electrified cage or a pit with spikes emerging. Just thinking about it makes me want to find it and run it on dos box again  _________________
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I didn't get into fighting games during the 16 bit era or before. I had some fun with playing Yie Ar Kung-Fu on with my cousins on the NES but I never could get into Street Fighter II or Mortal Kombat.
Tekken 2 was the game that really got me into the fighting genre, I remember loving the demo that came with the PSone and when I got the game I became a diehard Kazuya and Jun fan. King of Fighters 96 and Samurai Showdown IV were my first major ventures into the 2D fighting scene, but it wasnt untill I played Street Fighter Alpha that I really became a fan...and the first time I played Guilty Gear X on PS2 was an amazing moment.
GGX3 featuring BlazBlue visuals and possibly some mechanics (would be difficult to give everyone a drive) now that would be a god-tier fighting game. _________________
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Nice thread Jahenzeb. Does PALGN do feature articles, or just news, previews and reviews? Because your post is feature article quality.
Anyway, so I guess I'll just talk about my history with the genre for a bit.
My story begins back in 1990...
FIGHT!
After school sometimes, I used to hang out with my mates at the 'Burger Chef' in Mount Isa. It was a popular place for all the kids back in the day, mostly because in the corner they had a couple of arcade machines. The one I always went to though, was Double Dragon. It was a lot of fun playing that game with mates, and I ended up sinking a lot of 20c pieces into that machine.
Arcade
Fast-forward a few years, I discovered an actual games arcade in Townsville. They had Virtua Fighter running on a HUGE flat-screen on a wall. The 3D animation was amazingly smooth and all the moves looked uncannily realistic. The whole thing was kind of ground-breaking in my mind. So, needless to say, I spent a lot of my spare time in the 2 arcades Townsville had back then (sadly there are none here nowadays), playing a lot of Virtua Fighter (and Daytona).
Megadrive
After a while, I ended up with my first games console, the Sega Megadrive. Having a fighting game on it was a must, so I grabbed what I figured was the best thing available, Street Fighter II. With that game I spent many hours as Ryu (yes, cliched, I know), battling my brother-in-law, who would always pick my least favourite character, Dhalsim.
Saturn/Nintendo 64
A few years passed. In that time, I bought a Saturn and Virtua Fighter 2, then a Nintendo 64, Killer Instinct Gold (that game killed my thumbs, but was awesome), and Fighter's Destiny...
Playstation
Then I got a Playstation. With home consoles, I was a little biased back in those days towards Sega and Nintendo. So it wasn't until a few years into the Playstation's life (and when I heard that Tomb Raider 2 was going to be a PSX exclusive) that I bothered to get one.
So, I missed the first Tekken, and started with the series at Tekken 2. In my mind, this was the best fighting game yet. The idea of each button representing each limb was sheer brilliance. It opened the doors to combos that made sense in my mind and were easy to get a grasp of. Tekken 3 was even better, and still remains as one of my favourite fighting games of all time.
Also on Playstation, I enjoyed playing Soul Edge and Dead or Alive (60fps goodness).
Dreamcast
Then came Dreamcast. I was a little disappointed that it wouldn't be getting Tekken, but more than happy with Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter 3tb and Dead or Alive 2. Actually, Dead or Alive 2 was amazing on DC. I later ended up getting it for PS2 also, and the game is clearly superior on the Sega hardware.
Playstation 2
Highlights for me on PS2 were Tekken Tag Tournament, Tekken 4 and Virtua Fighter 4.
Today...
In the last few years my gaming tastes have changed, fighting games have become less important to me. I've always kind of had a casual taste for the genre (don't really delve too deeply into the 2D side of things), but these days, I mostly just get the odd boxing/UFC game and the occasional Tekken release.
/Ring out!
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| Jahanzeb wrote: |
GGX3 featuring BlazBlue visuals and possibly some mechanics (would be difficult to give everyone a drive) now that would be a god-tier fighting game. |
I've heard on and off rumors that it's in development (or is being developed after the next BB) Arc got the rights to it back of Sega last year. And the rights issues was the only reason they did BB instead of GG 3.
Also I would kill for a BB story mode in a GG game.
ALSO FUCK YEAH ONE MUST FALL! Jaguar all up in this bitch! _________________
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/\ Loved OMF 2097,
Street Fighter II was a great game to grow up with, not sure of my FIRST experience of it (was either at Time Zone or my local video shop)... it didn't take too long to get hooked. My milkbar that i pretty much live across the road from had the Championship Edition machine for a few months as well. They couldn't get rid of me then .
I had a few great games against my dad, both on the arcade machine as well as home console. I had some great matches against experts (well the teens of that time period), when i was only like 10 years old or so. I almost got into a scuffle with an older person, we were at the machine at the same time..... i lost and continued to watch the following matches take place. When the guy who beat me eventually was beaten himself, he came after me claiming that i had stolen a game credit off him . One of my parents actually walked past the video shop at the time when i was being pulled by my jumper. They grabbed me and i was lucky to escape whatever fate that the person had in mind for me.
I was never any good at pulling off the moves with the arcade stick (it wasn't until i played the Sega Mega Drive version - that i was pulling off moves left right and center), i might have pulled off the occasional hurricane kick.... but usually my special moves consisted of doing E.Honda's hand slap, Chun Li's kick or Blanka's electricity (ie button mash). I was never that great at Mortal Kombat either (relied on the uppercut), i could do Sub-Zero's freeze move..... but again it was another situation that i got better at the console version before i improved (ever so slightly) at the arcade. I also had this problem with Virtua Fighter (was better at the pc versions of 1 & 2, than the arcade) and to a lesser extent Tekken. At least with the arcade Tekken releases i had played, i had more of an idea (as i had played the playstation versions BEFORE arcade).
I didn't play the original MK at the arcades much, my main experience was with Mortal Kombat II (mostly at Time Zone). I had a friend from high school that i competed against quite a lot, at Time Zone, plus his house (Snes version) and my house (Mega Drive version). Of course we both talked ourselves up, but at best we were somewhat even.... he was better at using some characters than i was, and i was better using the characters that he wasn't as good at using.
Didn't play MK III at the arcade (did play the console version, i had the pc version as well). I remember MK IV, having a large curtain around it.... not sure if it was just for the atmosphere, or if the game really was too violent for public display.
Tekken was the first fighting game i played on the playstation, i purchased it not long after getting the console in '97... funnily enough - Tekken's 1 - 4 & Tag Tournament were all purchased when they were platinum releases. I just happened to buy them as they were platinum status (well i did hold off on Tekken 3.... eventually got it as a christmas present). Paul Phoenix is my favorite character in the series (loved his look AND was the first character i mastered the moves for in the original.... so i stuck with him in the sequels).
I used to be able to play fighting games for hours on end, in recent years (my attention span has disappeared , and the Xbox 360 controller being a hindrance), i manage 20-30 minute sessions now and then. I do have an arcade stick which makes things "interesting" (in that i always have to adjust how to play the fighting games when using it, as if i don't pull off a move with a few movements, i start doing the wiggling equivelant to button mashing, and just twirl the thing while mashing buttons ), and i have multiple fighting games on the ps3 (ps3 controller is much better!!).
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Back when i was a kid i experienced my first fighting game with the SNES and that was Mortal Kombat 1 and 2. My god did it change me... FOR THE BETTER * twitches eye*. After i got my own console there has been so many fighting games i have played. Rival schools my god i remember that when i played a couple of my friends i fucking loved that game. Same with Bloody Roar that game also brings back memories.
EDIT: One thing i loved about bloody roar was smashing them on the fence and doing this move can't remember but you would smash them outside haha. Good times. _________________
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| John Marston wrote: | . Same with Bloody Roar that game also brings back memories. One thing i loved about bloody roar was smashing them on the fence and doing this move can't remember but you would smash them outside haha. Good times. |
Oh HELL YEA Bloody Roar 1 and 2 were the ****!!!!!! 3 wasn't bad as one of the earliest PS2 titles but the gameplay was sooooo dumbed down. Bloody Roar 4 was an absolute mess  _________________
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| Jahanzeb wrote: | | John Marston wrote: | . Same with Bloody Roar that game also brings back memories. One thing i loved about bloody roar was smashing them on the fence and doing this move can't remember but you would smash them outside haha. Good times. |
Oh HELL YEA Bloody Roar 1 and 2 were the ****!!!!!! 3 wasn't bad as one of the earliest PS2 titles but the gameplay was sooooo dumbed down. Bloody Roar 4 was an absolute mess  |
Yes so bloody true i seem to recall the higher the sequals it went the worse it got... Also i am not sure if this was the case in all Australian states but damn it was hard to find Street Fighters on the ps1 back in the day. The only times i could find it was via rentals and they were always taken out.... _________________
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| Jahanzeb wrote: |
Fighting games were so uncommon on N64 and I had no idea about this one, watched a video just then and it looks quite impressive! really technical stuff and I like how you can save yourself from a ring out by climbing right back in (Virtua Fighter and Soul Calibur need this!!!!). Some cool pro-wrestling like grapples and interesting counter/parry techniques. It's got so many great ideas!! it looks far more modern than DOA even when it comes to 3D gameplay mechanics.
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Haha that video sure brings back some memories! The game was certainly no Tekken, but like you say, it had a few interesting ideas. I particularly found the points system refreshing. Other than that, it was a bit slow and the moves were a little simplistic. I think they added motion blur to that video too, don't remember that (although I could be wrong). Being playstation-less though, the game kept me satisfied for a while.
Also I just remembered, on N64, I had Mace: The Dark Age too, which was also pretty good if you didn't have a Playstation. Was a weapons based fighter, kinda like Soul Edge (but again, not as good).
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Here's the first couple of good fighting games I remember, way back on my C64...
International Karate (1985)
High/low punches/kicks and I think it had blocking. Your character moved really slowly and you'd get beaten backwards as you took damage. The sensei type guy in the background would gesture if you won or did something good. Every time you won a fight you'd go up a belt, starting from white. I never made it to black belt as the AI player just got too damn tough. I did however beat the crap out of my friends at this game
Barbarian (1987)
Two heavy set bare chested blokes swinging at each other with big two handed swords. There were quick/slow high/low attacks. You could literally kill your opponent in one shot with a beheading, if you manage to land the really slow high attack. The beheading was accompanied by a gruesome spurt of red(ish) pixels straight up into the air too! Of course we all used to just try and land these on each other, rather than playing properly. I wonder if this game inspired Ed Boon to MK and fatalities? =)
Can't remember what other fighting games I had on the C64 but there's two really notable early PC games I had...
Street Fighter II (1992)
The first 'classic' fighting game everyone will know. It was rather different to what I think of Street Fighter now. Playing on a keyboard made things a LOT harder than the arcade. Plus if you had a really dodgy keyboard you could lock out the other player by pressing enough keys. This actually added some level of strategy, as if the other player was jumping and attacking, you probably would not be able to do the same. Blanka/Honda/Chun were my favourites as they only needed one key to win!
Mortal Kombat
(1993)
After getting sick of Street Fighter II and it's fairly staid characters and moves, MK was refreshing. Gruesome, way more special moves and more realistics graphics made this instantly attractive to my younger self. I remember getting a printout of the possible fatalities from an old BBS and just trying to do them all, revelling in the bloody pixels.
FX Fighter (1995)
This game was bizarre. Bleeding edge 3D graphics. Some sort of weird combo system I never understood. A praying mantis as a fighter. Another was some sort of lava/rock golem who could barely move. The biggest thing I remember about this game? Ring outs. I hated them. They just felt cheap after being used to corners in 2D fighting game just stopping you. Every time I got a ring out, I'd rage.
Sadly there's not many I really remember after that. Fighting games seem to have completely been left off from the PC since the late ninties. The 3D fighting games never really did much for me and I didn't get enough time to hang out at Time Zone. I dabbled in a few on my friend's computers or consoles, mainly MKII and Killer Instinct, but was never much good at them. I remember laughing at Clay Fighter or something made of claymation pictures.
After getting a PS3 I jumped at the chance to get back into some fighting games.
Soul Calibur IV
The first PS3 fighter I picked up for my PS3. It proved a little to twitchy and complicated for me. The character customization was nice, but it wasn't familiar enough for me to get enough depth from it. Or maybe I just still felt some resentment towards it from FX Fighter?
Street Fighter IV (and Super)
Hooked me. Part nostalgia for SFII, part the sublime gameplay, part the lovely graphics. Having the money to afford an excellent TE Fight Stick also made this so much more special. I think I've spent over 200 hours playing this game and I'm still not as good as I'd like to be. Initially stuck with my main as Ryu as a good solid all rounder, then moved onto maining Ibuki with Super where I discovered the value of mixups. When Arcade DLC gets released, I'll probably spend another 100+
BlazBlue CT and CS
I love the graphics and enjoy the game. The story does my head in though. CT was also a little tedious trying to find all the endings to try and work out WTF was happening. I really need to put some more time into CS as it's been mostly neglected. I still love Arakune, one of my favourite fighting game characters. Bees! _________________
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Also I just remembered, on N64, I had Mace: The Dark Age too, which was also pretty good if you didn't have a Playstation. Was a weapons based fighter, kinda like Soul Edge (but again, not as good). |
Oh shit I was obbsessed with that game. The amount of secret stuff in that game was awesome, like the gnome in a wooden battle mech, or the alt skin for the shao lin monk as a janitor. And the battle chicken you could unlock.
I loved the stages in that game, like in the asian ninja lady's stage you could knock eachother out of the podium and into the water, and if you went too deep you could drown and slowly lose health.
Also back on 64 there was Bio F.R.E.A.K.S. (I think it was on PS1 aswell?) that game was awesome, full 3D movement while flying, flying and shooting as standard moves and full dismemberment but you could keep playing the game while lacking an arm but your moves got progressivley more limited as you lost your limbs. The end boss was absolutley massive. Like two stories tall and you had to fly up to attack his face while hopping around on platforms cause the water was acid or full of pirhanas or something.
Did anyone else play Kengo 2 on the PS2? It was a samurai fighting game. I loved that it was done slightly more realistically, you could kill eachother in one good hit with your sword and the entire game was based around parrying and blocking others sword attacks. You could also hit someone critcally and they'd start bleeding and then just run away untill they collapsed. There's a new one I see for cheap on the 360 (Kengo zero I think?) anyone played it?
Also makes me remember Samurai Showdown. Fucking loved this game.
A: For featuring a fencing character and B: Being able to do attacks with your pet dog if you were the american ninja.
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The story modes been done a lot simpler this time around, every character has three endings, good, joke and bad. They're mostly all done from just choices and you dont end up with ridiculous choice trees like some of the ones in CT, also oyu don't need to lose fights to get 100%. _________________
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Oh fighting games, that bring backs some memories. Tekken 1 and 2 being one of my all time favourites, especially Tekken 2. I use to have some epic matches with my Jun vs my friend's Lei Wulong.
Have to give a shout out to Blazblue - ah Noel ... if it wasn't for Jun ...
Apart from the obvious titles that will get mentioned, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, King Of Fighters (well any SNK titles, Fatal Fury, Samurai Shodown, World Heroes, etc), Virtua Fighter, Tekken, etc etc. I have to at least mention 3 of my favourite (and possibly forgotten) fighting games back on the PS One days.
Toshinden 1 and 2 (and I guess the other iterations even thought they weren't as good), a launch PS1 game and I always thought Toshinden 2 had one of the best sets of BGMs.
Tobal 1 and 2, awesome games created by Dreamfactory and published by SquareEnix. At the time Tobal 1 sold heaps when it launched in Japan, some said it was because the Final Fantasy 7 demo disc was included with it's release. Character designs were by Akira Toriyama (Dragonball artist). Again I consider this game to have one of the best BGMs around.
Third game I think deserves a mention is Zero Divide 1 and 2. Robots bashing each other, well actually they weren't robots, they were suppose to be programs, the representation of the characters looked robot like. Had some really interesting character designs and solid game play (played quite similar to Virtua Fighter).
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OMG Tobal!!! *Nostalgiagasm
It was such a nice looking game with really cool music...played it when I was in year 3 or something! but Tekken 2 + Jun and Kazuya made me forget about it
and I always wanted to try Zero Divide, but there were so many good fighting games on PSone that I never got around to it. _________________
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Back in the mid-late 1990s I was too povvo to own a games console, so I did all my gaming at the arcade, and mostly played fighting games.
If I could have saved all the money I put into Soul Calibur then, I would have had enough to buy a brand new Dreamcast and a copy of Soul Calibur to take home. I got really good at that game, to the point where I could finish it almost at will. My Taki was, up until the XBLA release, undefeated against human opponents.
I also poured a lot of money into Tekken 3, even though I never got particularly good at it (King was my best character). That's probably because the arcade I played it at installed a Dead Or Alive machine right next to it soon after, and I moved on to that game because a: It was much more fun, and b: the chicks were hotter.
You could usually find an MVS cab hooked up with any of KoF 96 or 98, Fatal Fury Special, World Heroes Jet and, if you were really, really lucky, The Last Blade. Never did see any of the Groove On Fight games in an arcade, though.
Obviously, there were Street Fighter II cabs, too. For some reason, every arcade seemed to have the exact same bootleg SFII version. You know the one with the rainbow logo and every character has fireballs and weak fireballs are slow-moving homing shots? Even my local video shop had that version. I don't think I even played a real version of SFII until SSFII came out. Even then, the bootleg CE variants were way more common than the regular variants.
One milk bar near me had Mortal Kombat, but we used to only play it for laughs because it was such a broken game. Fun for the blood and the fatalities, but none of us ever took it seriously. It also suffered by being installed next to a tabletop NBA Jam machine, and NBA Jam is scientifically proven to be seven hundred and twenty-eight times more fun than Mortal Kombat. Especially once you know how to unlock all the secrets in it.
I never got into the Street Fighter Zero/Alpha (different arcades had it with different names) series until I got it on Dreamcast years later. It's fun, but I think I came to it too late (I got it not long before I got Guilty Gear X, which blows it out of the water). Not to mention my TAFE used to have a Third Strike machine, and that was also more fun (especially because all the hardcore Asian students would play epic battles between each other on it at lunchtime.) The Third Strike Rap was a common soundtrack to my class' lunchbreaks.
In the early 2000s, I got right into emulation and MAME, and that allowed me to catch up on heaps of fighting games I'd missed. Getting to play all the Darkstalkers games was awesome, because I'd never really played them in the arcades, and they are pretty fun. For about a month, a friend of mine and I did nothing but play KoF98. His Athena was brutal by the end of it.
After that, I kind of got into shooting games instead, although the Guilty Gear games kept me interested in 2D fighters, and I'm still a bit of a Dead Or Alive fanboy. There's a whole bunch of games where if I had the time and the money, I'd go back and collect (Asuka 120%, for example). _________________ Twitter | XBL: Tamaaya | PSN: stormo | GameCentre/Steam: StorminNorman
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For me, the first ever fighting game I played was Tekken 3, and even now my times with it are quite vague since I was so young. But I do remember using Hwoarang, Paul and simply mashing.
Sexy beast! <3
Onwards from 98-06 I never really played any fighting games, mainly RPGs and FPS. Then one time we went on a school camp and a friend showed me Tekken: Dark Resurrection on the PSP and the nostalgia just hit me. Then I was truly addicted, I was playing the game night and day, trying to master everything.
After time I was in the city with a couple of friends when we walked past the arcade and saw Tekken 6, my jaw dropped. I had read about it but I never knew it had been released in Australia, again I was addicted. I would go to the city 3-4 times per week just to keep playing. Then I became accustomed to the fighting game scene and started to play other fighters at the time, mainly SF Third Strike/SFIV/SF Alpha 3 Max/T5DR/Guilty Gear etc etc.
Over the years Tekken 6 kinda died down at the arcades here in Melbourne, and it's hard to find anyone playing anymore, mainly due to the fact that Tag 2 will be coming out soon. For me, I find Tekken to be the best fighting game series. I initially hated Street Fighter a lot but the more time I spent with it the more time I enjoyed it, but the constant upgrades from Capcom kinda turned me off which is why I've stopped playing SSFIV and I'm waiting for the AE DLC since playing as Yang is so much fun.
As of now my main fighter is MvC3, an insanely fun game with a great gameplay system. It's taken up a lot of my time and I don't see any game in the future from slowing that down, except of course Tekken Tag 2 (CAN'T WAIT FFFUU).
BlazBlue is pretty cool but I find it far too different from Guilty Gear to my liking, as well as no one actually plays the game anymore competitively, and I'm a sworn hater of playing fighters online.
Mortal Kombat...I'll pass.
Tekken > MvC > SF > Everything else, IMHO of course. _________________
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Fighting games are the perfect combination. For me, the genre provides a game with potentially limitless return/enjoyment as well as being the least time demanding when it comes to playing in short bursts.
With every new title release, I get excited. Even if it is a series I am unfamiliar with or are not really into, I just like seeing the scene grow.
Like Zero, Tekken 3 was also my first experience with the genre. Mashing with Eddy all the way. From then on I would give other fighters a shot but never really playing them beyond mashing or simple tactics for years.
Along comes Tekken 5: DR!!!!! aka a NEW CHALLENGER!!!
T5DR opened my eyes to how epic a balanced and skilled a fighter can be. This is when I decided to actually learn the games mechanics. I am now reborn . With the latest console installment, T6, comes easily the most balanced and fun Tekken game in the series by adding even MORE depth and flashy style (and Lars). Nowadays I regularly make my way into the city for the fun arcade scene (and god tier opponents) and also entering the occasional tournament.
One thing that bothers me in the genre now is the dodgy online. While it is pretty much a necessity to include this feature today, most games offer a poor effort in this regard and really should be avoided if you actually want to improve your skill and enjoyment.
Battle Fantasia > Tekken > SC > remaining. _________________
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That's the one. There seems to be a couple of variations on it (the one my video shop had didn't have the character changing or teleporting), but because it's a bootleg, it would be near-impossible to know all the permutations.
I seem to remember a version that had the logo appear completely black on the title screen as well.
But yeah, Rainbow edition was really common in Melbourne arcades for a time. After a while, the video shop replaced it with a 2-cart MVS that had the original Samurai Shodown and one of the Fatal Fury games in it. _________________ Twitter | XBL: Tamaaya | PSN: stormo | GameCentre/Steam: StorminNorman
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