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| THEMAN wrote: | | catlover30 wrote: | To say Nintendo is just recycling old games is unfounded. It is no worse than any other console. In fact, it is probably better.
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Your logic is flawed because brawl/kart don't change the game very much. Most other sequels on other platforms are by different developers are very different - could be new games. And you're only looking at this top 10 and not seeing how there is a distinction btw sequels made by other developers and the stuff made by Nintendo.
Nintendo with wii = shockingly lazy. Animal Crossing is the almost the same game it was on the DS/GC. They couldn't even be bothered doing more to graphics/engine.
LOZTP = waggle enhanced gamecube port
Pikmin = recontroller enhanced
MP1+2 (incoming) = recontroller enhanced for wii.
and they keep churning this stuff out. Definitely not hardcore gamer friendly. Where's the new games announcement at the last EEE, non-existant. |
Uh Brawl and Mario Kart Wii are no less different to their previous franchise entries than most games.
And really? Pikmin and Metroid Prime are just gamecube ports? What a shocking discovery! Maybe they could put something about that on the box...
...Nintendo really aren't trying to sell these as anything but gamecube ports with built in waggle. Is it lazy? Yeah, probably. Is it more lazy than porting, I dunno, Bioshock to PS3 or something? No, not really.
Everyone - not just Nintendo, but every developer - need to get off their arses and develop something new for the Wii that is worthwhile. Thats true. But allowing a wider audience to play these gamecube games isn't causing this problem at all.
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Reguardless of your stance on the issue, I think it's sad that these Wii-makes are pretty much Nintendo's offering game wise for '09. Seriously what else is there? Wii Sports Resort..Punch Out..anything else first party of note?
I would be interested to see how Pikmin 1 & 2 along with Jungle Beat turn out though. Personally I can't see how Jungle Beat could benefit from no bongos, but Pikmin on the other hand...
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Its January 17th. Why would we know everything any developer is giving us this year yet?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Slightly off topic, but 2009 is already looking like a fantastic year foir the Wii - and we've barely scratched the surface!
Besides, out of all three of the major players Nintendo keep things the closest to their chest. You'd be foolish to think that all their cards are on the table.
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I'm looking forward to this GC remakes. I've had a Game Cube in the past but I only owned 3 games for it so my time with the GC generation was very short. I've heard great things about Pikmin so I'm looking forward to buying this for my Wii. I'm really hoping they'll re-release the rare GC games such as Tales Of Symphonia, I really want this game 
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well, have fun paying almost top dollar for games (new releases.... oh wait....) you could probably find on ebay cheap.
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| DancesInUnderwear wrote: | |
That reminds me of MS's xbox live remakes.
Maybe developers are running out of ideas, i mean the 50 or so third cpompany parties wont come up with all the ideas that the 6.7 billion people on earth could come up with. i think they need to have an 'ideas box'.
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Oh man... I couldn't even finish Pikmin 1. Maybe I should one day summon up the courage to verse those giant chicken-shroom beasts again.
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| plazma wrote: | That reminds me of MS's xbox live remakes.
Maybe developers are running out of ideas... |
No - they're just re-releasing games that sold well at a time when gaming was far less mainstream, in a bid to generate sales from people who missed them the first time around (people who have started gaming in this generation of consoles being the main target there I'd reckon) or simply want to revisit a game they liked but might no longer own. It seems like it could be a decent earner, too - assuming that the work required to get the old titles working on/with the new hardware is minimal.
It'd be interested to know how well the XBOX originals up for sale on Live have been selling.
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I like the concept of offering originals, as I never owned the original xbox, so it provides an avenue to reconnect with classics I was only briefly able to play at friends houses (and discover new ones I never had a chance to play). I think the same can be said for these Wii re-releases in respect to the Gamecube.
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| THEMAN wrote: | | well, have fun paying almost top dollar for games (new releases.... oh wait....) you could probably find on ebay cheap. |
Except these are being released at a "budget" price point.
If it takes minimal effort to port these games over, with the benefit of getting new people to play the games, why not?
Heck, I have a Gamecube, except wasn't able to grab Pikmin nor Mario Tennis when they were available brand new, and rather not deal with Ebay to go and find the games or another GCN memory card, so I'm definitely interested in seeing how these ports turn out.
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All I want to know is: When is Chibi Robo getting a Wii release?
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The point you're missing here is that you've only shown the Top 10s. Nintendo's reams of shovelware and re-re-re-ports are by definition less likely to make it to the Top 10, and so be represented in that sample. |
I don't want to flog a dead horse any more but just wanted to make one more point. By comparing the Top 10s the point I was making is comparing games that people actually buy. Sure, there is a LOT of shovelware out there for Wii. But, the majority of it doesn't really sell that well. Yes there have been a a lot of ports, but they are getting fewer as more third party developers are understanding how to produce content for Wii. That is with the exception of first party, which Nintendo are porting on purpose because it is what many people want. I don't understand the hostility towards it, because it is not like bringing out these gamecube games are taking away from other projects. If you don't like it, then nobody is forcing you to buy it.
Developers make remakes and sequels because people keep buying them. In bucketloads. Seems a lot of people like familiarity. Not everybody wants to constantly try new things. Just look at WoW - people are willing to play the same content day in day out. A lot of people will watch a movie or TV show over and over again. If I had $1 for every time my husband watches an episode of The Simpsons he's already seen, i'd be a millionaire by now.
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| Jaws wrote: | | Joseph wrote: | | ..so there would be millions of people who own Wiis that never played Pikmin or the original Metroid Prime etc. |
It's true. I never owned a Gamecube myself and have spent many days playing only Gamecube titles that I've bought for my Wii, purely because I was never able to experience them before. It's great! |
Owning a gamecube, this was what I was planning to do with the PS3....
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Now I can actually own pikmin.... :)
gotta get the wii first 
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