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Im not sure of the overall quality of purchased animes the ones i have bought have had pretty good subs although my Japanese is extremely poor so its hard to say. fan subs are a gift, these people dont need to supply you with sub titles hell if the animation has fan subs then its probably a pirated copy anyway. i personally chose subs of dubs. regardless of how bad the subs are the dubs generally sound ridiculous.
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| Fly wrote: | | Or people with fan subbed / subbed material don't go out and buy madman releases who have a monopoly on English DVDs here. I doubt corner stores and such are counted heavily towards sales, especially where one gives out freebies over monetary amounts to incite further purchases. |
I didn't just mean here, I meant US as well (I don't know much about the UK scene, so I won't comment about there, but I imagine it's similar)
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Honestly I used to be a big fan of Madman untill I realised that they are the biggest fucking rip off. 30 bucks for 3 eppisodes is just wrong. I bought season 1 of Dexter for that much. It's just retarded.
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| Zhou wrote: | | Peveus wrote: | I always watch subbed, no matter what.
English voice acting hurts my ears. They butcher it.
I'll gladly watch Gundam Wing in english, as that's probably the one exception to the rule of horrid acting, but Gundam Seed's choice of actor to play Lacus Clyne is so disgusting and just not RIGHT that I will never watch a dub again.
That and L's japanese voice is sexy as  |
-'ed as i LOVED the voice they chose for the english dub for Lacus. Actually IMO the overall dub for gundam seed overall was miles better than the Japanese original IMO.
Its actually why I never got into gundam 00. I found the Japanese voice actors that played characters especially Athren the just didnt have enough.. "feel" to them I guess you could say. |
Revenge -ed because the concept of someone liking that voice disturbs me. 
I find her japanese voice so beautiful.
Admittedly the voice they chose suited her when she first appears in Seed, but it doesn't really work later on, nor in Destiny when she is much more grown up and mature. Seventeen year old girls do not sound like seven year old girls, and they certainly don't sing like cher.
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| Benza wrote: | | Honestly I used to be a big fan of Madman untill I realised that they are the biggest **** rip off. 30 bucks for 3 eppisodes is just wrong. I bought season 1 of Dexter for that much. It's just retarded. |
Which isn't really Madman's fault.
The cost for licensing is quite high in comparison to sales, especially in comparison to popular American / British shows.
Oh and the US and Japan pay more episode than us the majority of the time
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Subtitles, no exception!
My ears have suffered irreversible damage from dubs, due to them being exposed to overexaggerated/underwhelming/squealling pain of little girl voices of a 40 year old impersonating a 9 year old/dull teen wank/narly dude men and wannabes.
I'm not saying all Japanese voices are alright, I swear there is that one guy who does all the incredibly deep voices for all anime shows.
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Definitely subs for me, I find the experience more enjoyable when it is the original voice artist whose performance is on screen.
I do enjoy most dubs though, particularly with most of the Studio Ghibli films, even though sometimes the American dub changes the story in the translation (Spirited Away is an example that comes to mind)
Bottom line is, whether it is Japanese or English, if the artist can capture the essence of the character, I enjoy it.
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only anime i watch is pokemon
so dubs all the way!
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I used to watch Bleach English version but since they are too far behind in episodes I decided to just go with the Japenese Version with english subtitles, and in a way I like it this way.
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| Juztin wrote: | | I used to watch Bleach English version but since they are too far behind in episodes I decided to just go with the Japenese Version with english subtitles, and in a way I like it this way. |
Yep thats exactly why i watch subs to it just takes forever for the english dub to come out. I must admit thoe when i first did it, it took forever to get use to it but once i did i never look back.
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I like dubs more if what they are saying is accurate and not reworded from the original lines.
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What do you mean? They have to reword it to a degree so that it fits the meaning of the original dialogue, because perfectly literal translations wouldn't make sense to a native english speaker. On the one hand, I like the subtitles to be as accurate as possible to the words spoken, however if the translator can read between the lines and convey the meaning of the dialogue in english the way a Japanese person would interpret the original dialogue effectively, it comes off very authentically. Dattebayo Fansubs are quite good at this, as even though the subs aren't technically accurate to what they are saying, the tone is usually pretty spot on.
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| Sinthesys wrote: | | Dattebayo Fansubs are quite good at this, as even though the subs aren't technically accurate to what they are saying, the tone is usually pretty spot on. |
Agreed, Dattebayo are great. It's kind of a shame that they are going to drop Naruto, I really hope Viz do a good job. *crosses fingers* In any case, Bleach wll continue.
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Until the date they said they're going to drop it comes and passes, I'm calling troll. They may be top fansubbers, but they love their fake news.
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| BurnZ wrote: | | I like dubs more if what they are saying is accurate and not reworded from the original lines. |
So pretty much none then?
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I generally don't mind either way, but I guess I would prefer english dubs unless they were really bad.
I haven't watched a lot of anime - pretty much only the mainstream stuff years ago (Dragon Ball Z, Digimon, etc.) and so watched them dubbed. I don't think I could ever watch DBZ in japanese, it just wouldn't be the same
I watched Death Note in english dubbs first and I've just finished watching it in japanese and there isn't much difference at all - I would say that I prefer the english dub of it actually, mainly because there is so much dialogue that I feel you can enjoy it more by just listening. And the japanese voices are all so deep? Even Light and L 
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| admeister wrote: | | Sinthesys wrote: | | Dattebayo Fansubs are quite good at this, as even though the subs aren't technically accurate to what they are saying, the tone is usually pretty spot on. |
Agreed, Dattebayo are great. It's kind of a shame that they are going to drop Naruto, I really hope Viz do a good job. *crosses fingers* In any case, Bleach wll continue. |
Admeister there not going to drop Naruto crikey. They always do this troll shit all the time. They did it this week because there is no naruto this week so it looks like they dropped it but it will be available next week for the double ep hehe.
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| Itachi wrote: | | admeister wrote: | | Sinthesys wrote: | | Dattebayo Fansubs are quite good at this, as even though the subs aren't technically accurate to what they are saying, the tone is usually pretty spot on. |
Agreed, Dattebayo are great. It's kind of a shame that they are going to drop Naruto, I really hope Viz do a good job. *crosses fingers* In any case, Bleach wll continue. |
Admeister there not going to drop Naruto crikey. They always do this troll **** all the time. They did it this week because there is no naruto this week so it looks like they dropped it but it will be available next week for the double ep hehe. |
First of all this weeks Naruto ep isn't meant to be up for 3 and a half hours and second of all they really are dropping it.
The US licensor of Naruto is going to be offering the episodes subbed on the day they get released in Japan for a small fee.
Dattebayo subs anime's so that people don't have to wait months on end for the latest episodes, and to be honest that's what all fansubs do. But when the episodes are getting released by the company that owns them in America on the day they are aired in Japan then they won't be anymore.
If they were to continue subbing the Naruto episodes they would be sued very quickly.
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Go back and watch Naruto shippuuden 85 again and they said the double episode won't be out this week. Can i have some links about the US licensor to please would be very very handy. I have seen DB do this very thing all the time. Like i mean they do this every time when there is a break in a week they come up with some excuse to try and fool people.
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| Itachi wrote: | | Go back and watch Naruto shippuuden 85 again and they said the double episode won't be out this week. Can i have some links about the US licensor to please would be very very handy. I have seen DB do this very thing all the time. Like i mean they do this every time when there is a break in a week they come up with some excuse to try and fool people. |
*link removed*
There you go.
thebigm edit: link removed
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| Vervain wrote: | | Itachi wrote: | | Go back and watch Naruto shippuuden 85 again and they said the double episode won't be out this week. Can i have some links about the US licensor to please would be very very handy. I have seen DB do this very thing all the time. Like i mean they do this every time when there is a break in a week they come up with some excuse to try and fool people. |
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There you go. |
There has been many many more attempts to Troll by them. I will believe it when i see it i am afraid.
Here is the list of when shippuuden airs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homecoming_(Naruto_episode)
Also how is the USA license going to be offering them for streaming for a small fee when the usa public is no where near up to that. I think there still in the Naruto face not Shippuuden. So it all seems very very suss to me.
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This is different though. The US licensor really is going to be releasing the episodes within a day of their release in Japan. Fansubs are illegal and the only reason why they get away with it is because they don't tend to sub when the US licensor is releasing the episodes simultaneously to the Japanese licensor.
Here are some confirmatory links to support that Viz really are going to be releasing Naruto on the day of Japanese release:
Link 1
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Link 4
Why are Dattebayo going to keep subbing the episodes when the job is being done for them by the actual licensor? They will be devoting their time to other animes most likely.
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Ahhhh thanks for the news Vervain GOD DAMN IT STREAMING IS SHITTY QUALITY  . Sad Sad Sad Day! I wonder if people outside of the USA will be able to watch it to heheh. How the fuck are you going to view the subs in the small streaming thing jesus just go to www.naruto.com and look jesus .
I am so upset about this news, i really think they will limit the people who watch this stream to just usa people. i would honestly play 1-2 usa dollars per ep if i had to but not streaming. Ohhhhhh 
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Just finished up watching the new evangelion --> you are (NOT) alone with full Jap audio and ENG subtittle.
At first I was reluctant to watch it, but the new CG animations coupled with a revised stroyline kept me watching through the whole movie.
Personally, I liked Shinji's english voice as he seems less feminine, but after a while of reflecting on what I had just watched, I would have to say, of all the animes, Evangelion is best watched with Jap audio.
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