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 Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: Let the Atom Smasher fear commence |
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So some people are so worried about the atom smasher destroying the planet that a couple of people have tried to take out court orders preventing it's usage in case we open a black hole, it's spits out some sub atomic particles that will turn the earth into a small sun or that it may produce clones of Roseanne Barr and Corey Worthington.
I can foresee some sort of gate to hell or something like that but problem is all of our action heroes are over 50 now and i ain't sending Shia LeBeouf to close a portal to hell.
Atom Smasher Fears Dismissed
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Hmmm.... yes.
I've known about this collider for a while now and it is kinda scary. I saw a show about it and something was said about creating black holes and that is kinda frightning but any particles created when they smash these atoms only last for the tiniest fraction of a second so they don't think there will be any harm. That being said I don't like the odds of 1 in 50 million, is that per experiment or just in general the first time they turn it on?
Anyway when they detonated the first atomic bomb there were fears that the reaction would be unstoppable and the sky would just catch on fire and destroy the Earth. That didn't happen, but I think science is getting into scary territory these days because it is progressing so fast. Also I like science and everything it stands for so I think I trust that they are not going to destroy the Earth. Just in case though I better make sure I have no regrets.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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atom smasher:
http://atom.smasher.org/ ??  
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Just to put this in perspective, the guy who is proposing this wacky doom theory made the exact same prediction about the last 3 biggest partictle accelerators, and besides, actual scientists have written about how he's wrong
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damn that LHC sounds so awesome! i wonder exactly how cold those magnets are....
i'm on sciences side with this, i mean, just think of the discoveries they could make! i would definitely risk being swallowed by a black hole than live w/o knowing.
it's stuff like this that makes me wish i continued science at uni =( just thinking and reading about this stuff gets me so excited!!
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Doesn't mean they're right or wrong, but I prefer to think that, if there is a chance of something going wrong with something that could be this deadly (in theory), then it isn't worth trying just for the sake of science.
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Didn't they think that the first A-bomb would doom us all as well?Some thought that the energy released from one split atom would in turn split another, and another and so on......
Sucks to be wrong.
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| kartanym wrote: | | Doesn't mean they're right or wrong, but I prefer to think that, if there is a chance of something going wrong with something that could be this deadly (in theory), then it isn't worth trying just for the sake of science. |
Yeah, I'd have to agree. These things are nice to know, but at what (potential) cost? I think it would be pretty silly for us to wipe ourselves out over something like this.
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| admeister wrote: | | kartanym wrote: | | Doesn't mean they're right or wrong, but I prefer to think that, if there is a chance of something going wrong with something that could be this deadly (in theory), then it isn't worth trying just for the sake of science. |
Yeah, I'd have to agree. These things are nice to know, but at what (potential) cost? I think it would be pretty silly for us to wipe ourselves out over something like this. |
Correct wipe outs should be left up to the individual preferably with a bottle of Jack Daniels in one hand glass in the other. Cost bout $40 much better than total human annihilation
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I've always had a secret desire for the end of the world to happen while I'm alive. Nothing against future generations and all, but I'd just like to know how it all goes down rather than be left (eternally) in suspense. So I'm all them trying it out, though I would 99.9% expect nothing particularly exciting to occur.
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I've heard about it before, too. I don't know who to believe.
But, wow, imagine the energy costs.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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On the plus side, if anything does go wrong with the colliders we'll never know about it.
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| Jibbs wrote: | Didn't they think that the first A-bomb would doom us all as well?Some thought that the energy released from one split atom would in turn split another, and another and so on......
Sucks to be wrong. |
Something about setting the sky on fire...
I think the best part of this was some guy petitioning to get one of the scientists to change his name to Gordon Freeman
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I'm hoping more for something along the lines of, well bugger me, so thats how you fold space and time, sweet.
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lol, hopefully it doesn't open up space/time and create a way for aliens to get through. Lets just pray that at CERN they keep a crowbar handy...
So anyway what are they expecting to find with this? Is it actually such a big deal, or are they just risking our lives for no real reason?
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| Jibbs wrote: | | Didn't they think that the first A-bomb would doom us all as well?Some thought that the energy released from one split atom would in turn split another, and another and so on... |
That's exactly how a nuclear reaction works... Unless you mean it would split ALL the atoms.
The LHC is some fearsome kit. We also have a similar one in Victoria near Monashi University, of course ours doesn't span three or four different countries.
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| MIkes wrote: | | On the plus side, if anything does go wrong with the colliders we'll never know about it. |
The only way we'll find out is if Switzerland mysteriously disappears off the face off the earth.
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| Psy Storm wrote: | | So anyway what are they expecting to find with this? Is it actually such a big deal, or are they just risking our lives for no real reason? |
the article says the following:
| Quote: | Scientists plan to hunt for signs of the invisible "dark matter" and "dark energy" that make up more than 96 percent of the universe, and hope to glimpse the elusive Higgs boson, a so-far-undiscovered particle thought to give matter its mass.
The collider could find evidence of extra dimensions, a boon for superstring theory, which holds that quarks, the particles that make up atoms, are infinitesimal vibrating strings.
The theory could resolve many of physics' unanswered questions, but requires about 10 dimensions — far more than the three spatial dimensions our senses experience. |
the possibilities are endless XD
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Oh dear I've gone cross eyed X|
I've tried reading up about it, but a lot of it goes over my head. Anywhere where someone like me can read more about it AND actually understand it?
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| lapzod wrote: | Oh dear I've gone cross eyed X|
I've tried reading up about it, but a lot of it goes over my head. Anywhere where someone like me can read more about it AND actually understand it? |
how stuff works might be good (i haven't actually read through it so i dunno how well it is explained, i just wish i still had my quantum physics text book =C ):
| Quote: | | Particle accelerators can take a particle, such as an electron, speed it up to near the speed of light, collide it with an atom and thereby discover its internal parts. |
here is linky
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| Eyce wrote: | | MIkes wrote: | | On the plus side, if anything does go wrong with the colliders we'll never know about it. |
The only way we'll find out is if Switzerland mysteriously disappears off the face off the earth. |
What I meant was the theory is that is the collider begins a chain reaction of exploding atoms the reaction won't stop at the Swiss border andf it will be nigh on instantanious. At least the French will go first.
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i just hope that if the world ends, i wont feel or notice myself dying. Just vaporised immediately or something painless and quick.
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