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I Love Oxygen

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: I can't take this anymore!!! Ahhhh! (Emo thread, kind of) |
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I'm sick of living at home with my parents. I mean, I'm 17! Wha'ever, I do what I want!
Seriously... I want to move out. I was thinking of moving into my girlfriend's house, but that'd be really awkward... Also, her mum hates me or something. So I eventually decided to just buy an apartment for myself. It doesn't have to be big... I'm a minimalist. I don't want many things... the more room, the more I'll have to clean. You know?
So... since you guys were good with the pedo in NZ thread I made, I thought I'd make this thread.
1) There's no doubt about it, I'm moving out. I've thought about it heaps, and it's the best thing to do. I need to be on my own.
2) A problem is I only have 2000 dollars with me. I need a job... What's an easy job I can get? :/
3) The apartment only has to be small. I'd like that. Nice and cozy.
4) Why am I numbering this? There's nothing to number...
Anyway, does anyone here live on their own? What are some tips? Do/did you regret it?
Thanks in advance.
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Scrav


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Stay at home, get a stable job for a year. Plan out your finances. You are in no position to jump out into the world and buy a flat, given you don't have a job and no real job prospects. A bank wouldn't even look at you.
You might be able to go out and rent, buts thats the absolute best you can do in your position. Share renting might be a better option for someone in your position.
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MIkes


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'm just going to come out and say it - you're kidding yourself, mate.
I hated living at home with my mum when I was 17 also. There's a better than good chance we all did. It's part of growing up that in your late teens you feel you life is racing away and you want to take charge and live it your way, but real life can really put a dampener on that kind of thing.
For example - $2,000 could cover you initial deposit on a rented apartment, depending on what city you live in and whhere you want to rent, but then you need a steady stream comin in for rent, electricity bills, gas bills, water bills. I'm guessing you're going to need furniture of some kind and you'll be surpised how quickly that gets expensive. Want a phone and internet? Bills again. Food? more again. So you need a job. But at 17 and I'm guessing either fresh out of high school or yet to finish, your options are pretty limited. IIRC shap assistants over 20 get soemthing $18 an hour? Call it $20. On a 38 hour week you'd be on $39,520 p/a. Sounds OK? Minus $5,856 for tax, so that's actually $33,664. spread over 52 weeks that's $647 a week.
It's doable, definately, but I'd really really recommend against it.
I know it probably sucks for you now, but hold on there. Take advantage of living in a fairly stable (i'm assuming your perants won't throw you out) enviroment for a little while longer and you'll be thankful of it in the long run.
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harness


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: I can't take this anymore!!! Ahhhh! (Emo thread, kind of |
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| I Love Oxygen wrote: |
1) There's no doubt about it, I'm moving out. I've thought about it heaps, and it's the best thing to do. I need to be on my own.
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I'm not convinced you have, with this kind of attitude:
| I Love Oxygen wrote: | | I'm sick of living at home with my parents. I mean, I'm 17! Wha'ever, I do what I want! |
Just relax. Your parents are much more experienced than you, and you're not ready. You're unskilled, so any work you'd get will be a pittance and it'll be hard to make ends meet, especially if you want to study after school. Your parents give you (essentially) free utilities, food and shelter, and instead of you worrying about this, you should be worrying about study and friends and enjoying your life. Don't take your parents for granted.
And briefly about the practical aspect - 2000 will evaporate within weeks of you getting settled in. Because you're young and would be out of the wild, there's risk of landlords, roommates, neighbors, and other people (who aren't your friends/family) trying to take advantage of you. I won't say "you're not ready" because I don't know that for sure, but I don't see how you can be ready without more age and education than you currently have.
Don't do it.
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I Love Oxygen

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| MIkes wrote: | I'm just going to come out and say it - you're kidding yourself, mate.
I hated living at home with my mum when I was 17 also. There's a better than good chance we all did. It's part of growing up that in your late teens you feel you life is racing away and you want to take charge and live it your way, but real life can really put a dampener on that kind of thing.
For example - $2,000 could cover you initial deposit on a rented apartment, depending on what city you live in and whhere you want to rent, but then you need a steady stream comin in for rent, electricity bills, gas bills, water bills. I'm guessing you're going to need furniture of some kind and you'll be surpised how quickly that gets expensive. Want a phone and internet? Bills again. Food? more again. So you need a job. But at 17 and I'm guessing either fresh out of high school or yet to finish, your options are pretty limited. IIRC shap assistants over 20 get soemthing $18 an hour? Call it $20. On a 38 hour week you'd be on $39,520 p/a. Sounds OK? Minus $5,856 for tax, so that's actually $33,664. spread over 52 weeks that's $647 a week.
It's doable, definately, but I'd really really recommend against it.
I know it probably sucks for you now, but hold on there. Take advantage of living in a fairly stable (i'm assuming your perants won't throw you out) enviroment for a little while longer and you'll be thankful of it in the long run. |
Hm... Well okay... I don't really want to share an apartment either. :/ That's why I want to move out. I want to be on my own. But yeah, good points............ hm...
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I Love Oxygen

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: I can't take this anymore!!! Ahhhh! (Emo thread, kind of |
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| harness wrote: | | I Love Oxygen wrote: |
1) There's no doubt about it, I'm moving out. I've thought about it heaps, and it's the best thing to do. I need to be on my own.
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I'm not convinced you have, with this kind of attitude:
| I Love Oxygen wrote: | | I'm sick of living at home with my parents. I mean, I'm 17! Wha'ever, I do what I want! |
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lol... That was a line off South Park/Maury. That's why I said after it "But seriously..."
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arbok


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm about to move out - but I'm 26 - i don't know where you're going to get the money... I think you should wait until you're at least 18... then you can get a car and do other stuff.
But honestly if you're going to 'buy' an apartment like you say you need to save up a bit of money first. _________________
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NeoSanity

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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I've spent time overseas by myself before, believe me you've really got to get your facts together.
Firstly two thousand dollars will disappear in a matter of weeks and unless you've got a steady income of about $500+ a week your not going to be able to cope financially. Secondly unless you can clean and cook competently your going to struggle there as well. Also you need to take your well being into account. I'm 17 and unlike most I know that I'm not invincible, your not going to know how to cope emotionally nor will you be able to be taken seriously...at all. Really you've got the kidding yourself if you think you can move out and survive, I know someone whose done it and they're struggling to make ends meet even with work and support from his parents.
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MIkes


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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This is something I hate about television. How many shows can you name that show young adults who rent their own apartments? Now how many do you ctually know how can do this?
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Scrav


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| MIkes wrote: | | This is something I hate about television. How many shows can you name that show young adults who rent their own apartments? Now how many do you ctually know how can do this? |
I'm assuming you are talking about US shows. In the US, the general lifestyle is that you move out when you are 18 or so and make your own way.
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DancesInUnderwear

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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You're 17. Stay at home and stop being a douchebag. _________________
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Benza


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I'm 20 and on around $500 a week and I can't afford to move out on my own. You're pretty much boned. _________________
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I Love Oxygen

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | You're 17. Stay at home and stop being a douchebag. |
I'm not being a douchebag... I know you obviously didn't mean it or care since this is just the Internet, but for what it's worth I can't really stay at home because of my family screaming all the time. I can't bring anyone home wiht me or anything... it's seriously like Malcolm in the Middle here. Pretend I'm Malcolm. That's what it's like!!!
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Vervain


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I Love Oxygen wrote: | | DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | You're 17. Stay at home and stop being a douchebag. |
I'm not being a douchebag... I know you obviously didn't mean it or care since this is just the Internet, but for what it's worth I can't really stay at home because of my family screaming all the time. I can't bring anyone home wiht me or anything... it's seriously like Malcolm in the Middle here. Pretend I'm Malcolm. That's what it's like!!! |
Bah! Having your family continuously screaming is nothing. At least they're not constantly abusing you, or telling you're not good enough, or after you get into TAFE(Like they wanted you too) telling you that it isn't good enough and that you need a job.
At least you're being financially supported by your family and not being told that if you don't get a job in 3 months you'll be kicked out whether or not you'll be able to survive.
None of this is happening to me by thw way, just a good friend of mine.
Seriously you have got it so easy compared to a lot of people and you really don't seem to realise it.
There is no way that you will be able to survive when the only job you'll be able to get is something like McDonalds or KFC. You need to get over yourself stick it out until you have some sort of job that you can support yourself on and THEN think about moving out. _________________
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Puddingfork


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I Love Oxygen wrote: | | DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | You're 17. Stay at home and stop being a douchebag. |
I'm not being a douchebag... I know you obviously didn't mean it or care since this is just the Internet, but for what it's worth I can't really stay at home because of my family screaming all the time. I can't bring anyone home wiht me or anything... it's seriously like Malcolm in the Middle here. Pretend I'm Malcolm. That's what it's like!!! |
Malcolm's a brat.. oh right
Seriously though, live with it, you have been doing fine for 17 years its only one more year until you can finish school and get a job. By then you might have came you your senses anyway and have realized that being at home ain't so bad. Or maybe your situation is a lot worse than mine and I don't understand, if so please go into more detail. _________________
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GooberMan


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I Love Oxygen

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Vervain wrote: | | I Love Oxygen wrote: | | DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | You're 17. Stay at home and stop being a douchebag. |
I'm not being a douchebag... I know you obviously didn't mean it or care since this is just the Internet, but for what it's worth I can't really stay at home because of my family screaming all the time. I can't bring anyone home wiht me or anything... it's seriously like Malcolm in the Middle here. Pretend I'm Malcolm. That's what it's like!!! |
Bah! Having your family continuously screaming is nothing. At least they're not constantly abusing you, or telling you're not good enough, or after you get into TAFE(Like they wanted you too) telling you that it isn't good enough and that you need a job. |
They are... not the abusing bit... but yeah.
Yuuuck... myspace is for attention whores. What's the point? "Comment my pics guys!" A week later they delete the pics anyway, and put up new ones. Pointless...
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I Love Oxygen

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Puddingfork wrote: | | I Love Oxygen wrote: | | DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | You're 17. Stay at home and stop being a douchebag. |
I'm not being a douchebag... I know you obviously didn't mean it or care since this is just the Internet, but for what it's worth I can't really stay at home because of my family screaming all the time. I can't bring anyone home wiht me or anything... it's seriously like Malcolm in the Middle here. Pretend I'm Malcolm. That's what it's like!!! |
Malcolm's a brat.. oh right
Seriously though, live with it, you have been doing fine for 17 years its only one more year until you can finish school and get a job. By then you might have came you your senses anyway and have realized that being at home ain't so bad. Or maybe your situation is a lot worse than mine and I don't understand, if so please go into more detail. |
Okay... um. Well the cops came to my house two days ago, and let's just say I have a criminal record now. :/ My parents are so freaking p!ssed off about that still...
I know it's sibling rivalry, but my sister is seriously insane. I'm not allowed in the same room as her, or she'll throw the nearest object at me. I walk into the TV room, and she screams and throws the remote at me. I'm not exaggerating...
What else... my dad keeps saying how pathetic I am. And my mum gets so mad sometimes that she actually kicks me out of the house and tells me to live somewhere else. I have to stay outside until my dad gets home from work, and he lets me in again...
And I don't even do anything to deserve it! They say I never go anywhere and I need a life... Gosh, I have a life. I just can't tell them about it, because it's... kind of... bad. (Nothing illegal... ha)
My girlfriend has offered for me to stay with her, but it'd just be so awkward... and her mum hates me, I'm pretty sure...
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GooberMan


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I Love Oxygen wrote: | | myspace is for attention whores |
Oh, right, sorry. You're a high class attention whore, which is a whole different deal. _________________
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I Love Oxygen

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| GooberMan wrote: | | I Love Oxygen wrote: | | myspace is for attention whores |
Oh, right, sorry. You're a classy attention whore, which is a whole different deal. |
Uhhh... huh... I think you mean facebook, but whatever.
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3mt


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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you need to start work now to liven up your job credentials. It doesnt matter whether its Mc Donalds or KFC, just get a job. Then after that, you can start looking at some of the better paying jobs, which wont even look at your resume if you had not work experience. Start low and build your way up. _________________
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried to put yourself in your sis/parents shoes? Actually, did you know how I reacted when one of my female friend accused my male friend of r*pe and he falsely got a criminal record?. That's right, I told that girl off like no tomorrow at school until she was scared because I feel for my male friend.
Criminal record is something big, of course people will react to it. Everyone reacts to it differently. Its not something small that you can brush it aside, it sticks to you for the rest of your life, travelling, work, everything.
You have to learn to put up with people sometimes, they will settle down over time, escaping solves nothing because the problem will catch up with you in the future. In the workplace, there will always be a someone that will also give you a hard time. Try and put yourself through this, your family will get over it eventually, they can't stay like that forever. _________________ "Work hard now, play even harder later"
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Benza


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah regardless of what the situation at home is, you wouldn't be able to move out without a job. Get a job, get some money, then look at moving out.
Either that or start sleeping with old desperate ladies and find a sugar mummy, whatever works ya know. _________________
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Blast Hardbody


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Stop whinging, we all have problems. Suck it up, wait untill you get a proper job, THEN move out.
Moving out now is just stupid on so many levels, I don't even think I have to explain why. _________________
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I Love Oxygen

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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People asked about my situation so I told them, and then you say to stop whining? :/ I don't get it... I'm going to stop posting here... Bye.
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