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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First of all, they should make it compulsory to have a HDD for the 360 version. Screw the people with the Core console, go buy a damn HDD!

And second of all, I wonder how long it has been delayed. If it was due for October, hopefully February? Although by then we got MGS4 and Killzone 2 for the PS3, I'd rather it came out a bit later to be honest.

Still disappointed though. Definately agree if it wasn't cross platform, it wouldn't be delayed.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Saw it coming since the second trailer. Crappy frame rates without vehicles and NPCs.

Don't point the finger at the 360 with this one, cause remember the PS3 has less (half) memory and slower optical read times.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No one knows why it was delayed it's very stupid to turn this into a 360 vs ps3 thing hehe. Move on people icon_smile.gif Lets just hope they make the 100% awesome for when it's finally released
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd be more inclined to believe that the 360 version is actually causing the problems because the devs have actually voiced their opinion on this. They've said the lack of HDD and Dvd9 format are presenting problems....whereas they haven't actually outlined the problems the Ps3 is causing them.

No they never ****ing well said that. This is about the 5th or 6th time I've corrected someone on this due to the gaming media (PALGN included) knowingly misrepresenting what Rockstar said in that interview. They said BOTH platforms were providing their own difficulties. There was no emphasis or focus upon 360 problems, that was purely the creation of the interviewer... from a Playstation magazine.

edit: just to clarify, it's not you that annoys me with this ugh (how could I be mad at you icon_wink.gif) it's the gaming "media" and their poor attitude toward accuracy.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Saw it coming since the second trailer. Crappy frame rates without vehicles and NPCs.

Don't point the finger at the 360 with this one, cause remember the PS3 has less (half) memory and slower optical read times.


Actually (to the best of my knowledge) they both have 1/2 a gig ram, the Ps3 has 256 for sound and the other 256 for graphics whereas the 360 has 512 which can be split however.

I think the HDD would play a bit factor regardless.

@ Spanca....yea I keep forgetting the Rockstar rep was baited into saying that....true. Still I personally think problems such as less storage space and lack of HDD would be some of the biger irks a dev would be facing.....that's just my opinion however.

The one thing I know for certain however is that multiplatform development of GTA has led to more problems than Rockstar would've experienced had the game been developed exclusively for 1.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Im annoyed by this news, but hopefully that means more time will be spent on development and to iron out the bugs in the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really wish they didn't make this multiplatform. I fucking hate multiplatform-ism. I don't care if the game was launched first on the 360 or the PS3, as long as it was developed for one set of hardware and then PORTED later.

LeonJ wrote:
Why, there isn't the installer base to make it a PS3 exclusive? Why would Rockstar in their right mind do that? If anything it would be the other way around.

Well Rockstar's next new IP is a Playstation exclusive. Obviously the install base will grow...while due to breakdowns, the 360 install base will decline. icon_wink.gif

EDIT: Yeah just what I thought:
"Certain elements of development proved to be more time-intensive than expected, especially given the commitment for a simultaneous release on two very different platforms," said Take-Two chairman Strauss Zelnick in a statement.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OMG!! Not 'till 2008!! Although it is good they're going to spend a little more time developing it this news still sucks!! It was my most anticipated game of 2007!! Ahwell...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well this probably was my most anticipated for this year so yeah I'm disappointed but I have such a huge backlog and many other great titles are still coming out this year anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but Take 2 announced that the episodical content won't be delayed. Meaning that the epidsodes will be released quite close to the game's release date.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just for clarification's sake, Chris's post was incorrect. I've spoken to Rockstar and their fiscal year begins November 1st, the game is still coming calandar 08 but it could be early in the year.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Man this sucks GTA4 was one of the games I was actually looking foward to, Oh well it will be a better game and my wallet will be happier.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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im a gta fan i i am happy that the game is being delayed so it can be the best gta ever hopefully its worth the wait
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That sorta sucks, but if it means the game will be better when it does come out then I don't really mind i suppose, but it is a shame because I couldn't wait to get some next gen GTA goodness into me.
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So what? Just because they got some half-baked table tennis game running perfectly on it doesn't mean they can get a whole streaming city in HD doing the same. Honestly neither you nor I have any idea which platform is causing problems if any at all.....but looking at Rockstars history they've never had problems untill they started developing for the 360 as an exlusive/multiplatform.


I hardly think this classifies as proof that the Xbox 360 is causing the problems. It sounds like a load of shit to me. Of course developing for two platforms will be more difficult then one, but for someone who only owns an Xbox 360 (and for the foreseeable that'll be all I will own, considering putting yourself through university without your parents paying for everything gives you little to no extra cash) your opinion isn't only mean and vindictive, but it would exclude a whole group of gamers. Not all of us can afford a $1000 console with maybe one decent exclusive game worth buying.

ugh the boot wrote:

Also you're dreaming if you think the 360's install base will remain higher than the Ps3's. It's only a matter of time people are able to afford Ps3's.....that's the only thing holding them back....or alternatively everyone's 360 will eventually break and they'll just opt for the Ps3 as their next console.


I'm pretty sure time will show you that the internet and gaming culture are so intertwined these days that even with a massive price drop Sony might not get the sales you seem to so desperately believe they will. I personally see no reason to buy one, what good exclusive games are currently available on that system? (or even being released this year?) (Please, someone tell me.)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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*groan* it's like everytime I see you post it can be pretty much guranteed it'll be some uneducated rebuttal of one of my posts.

Aww diddums you can't afford a $1000 console well sorry to hurt your feelings but that doesn't mean anything to me....so it sux to be you.

Internet and gaming culture? Yea like that has any impact on 360's shoddy hardware.

I love how you come in ages after points have been made and you target my posts. icon_lol.gif Did I hurt your feelings once and you haven't been able to get over it or something? icon_lol.gif
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*groan* it's like everytime I see you post it can be pretty much guranteed it'll be some uneducated rebuttal of one of my posts.

Aww diddums you can't afford a $1000 console well sorry to hurt your feelings but that doesn't mean anything to me....so it sux to be you.

Internet and gaming culture? Yea like that has any impact on 360's shoddy hardware.

I love how you come in ages after points have been made and you target my posts. icon_lol.gif Did I hurt your feelings once and you haven't been able to get over it or something? icon_lol.gif

Why are you laughing Ugh? You basically just payed $400 extra for something thats gameswise cannot stand up to the 360. When the PS3 proves itself then come back and laugh at him, but right now your just acting stupid.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come on guys, back on topic.

That is me saying that I really want to get into this pointless debate but don't want to take it off topic anymoreso.
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Well personally while im disappointed, id rather wait for the best possible game.

Plus there are loads of other games coming out this year which will keep me occupied.
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microsoft would probably be happier about this than sony because the PS3 is still trying to build a solid list of games...

...and somewhere in a high-rise apartment, jack thompson is sitting in a black leather chair, looking out into the distance, stroking his cat with a smile.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^then again, it gives plenty of time for their hardware to break and people to crack the shits and if this hardware problem gets any bigger there might be no install base left by the time GTA comes out.
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*groan* it's like everytime I see you post it can be pretty much guranteed it'll be some uneducated rebuttal of one of my posts.


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*groan* it's like everytime I see you post it can be /pretty much guranteed it'll be some uneducated rebuttal of one of my posts.


Uneducated? I've never seen you make an actual decent point. You never back anything up. Why is it uneducated for example.

Plus I like a good discussion, sue me.

ugh the boot wrote:
Aww diddums you can't afford a $1000 console well sorry to hurt your feelings but that doesn't mean anything to me....so it sux to be you.


Looks like I'm not the only one buddy. Let's just remember how well the PS3 is selling at the moment icon_wink.gif

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I love how you come in ages after points have been made and you target my posts. icon_lol.gif Did I hurt your feelings once and you haven't been able to get over it or something? icon_lol.gif


No, blind arrogance just pisses me off.
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