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Nev


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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Sony: "We don't buy exclusivity." |
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| Sony: "We don't buy exclusivity." by Neville |  | | PALGN News: SCEA president Jack Tretton sets the record straight. | | [View Article] |
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poweroffarts

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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They dont? Seriously how they're getting exclusives then. _________________
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Jellyfish

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Says he who owns the AFL licence. Then there's suspicions about Metal Gear Solid 4.
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RAMPAGE


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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Geez sony stop bullsh*ting us.
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Crestfallen


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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Bah! I am so OVAR this political crap!
Just give us some polished games and we'll give you our money. Deal? Deal. _________________
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DancesInUnderwear

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well no wonder they have none then. _________________
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matrix-cat


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Do they really think people care about them being noble? This is business, not Feudal-era Japan. _________________
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A13x


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I wish that they would start buying exclusivity, as the only PS3 games for the next half-year I'd be interested in are cross platform, and I would probably buy the 360 versions for achievements and extra content. At this stage, my PS3 interest has next to no games on it. _________________
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poweroffarts

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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| matrix-cat wrote: | | Do they really think people care about them being noble? This is business, not Feudal-era Japan. |
But wasnt Feudal Japan exactly like Business. _________________
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jecht_raiden


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: |
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What arguments can arise from company's releasing information!
It must be remembered that they release information in a particular manner for specific reasons (and good ones at that). SONY nowadays has a reputation for presenting seemingly false information or a sort of cover up; poor excuses. It is a shame. And again with this new information most see this as poor.
Sony may need to revise its strategies. They are not achieving as was envisioned.
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Sol_Bad


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Sony don't need to buy exclusives. They have more then enough in house studios.
Lair
Warhawk
Heavenly Sword
Singstar
Ratchet & Clank: Future Perfect
Everybody's Golf 5
Foul Soul
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
Little Big Planet
Wipeout HD
SOCOM: Confrontation
And all of these games will be out before end of year.
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the doag


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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^ Agree entirely. Sony are certainly covered for exclusivity this year. Further into the PS3 lifecycle we will no-doubt see an increase of platform-specific games being developed for this console and indeed all consoles. If the PS2 is anything to go by, there will be enough exclusive content till 2012. I think it has something to do with the past being a good indicator of the future. _________________
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john_solids


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:30 am Post subject: |
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well it shows that sony arent worried about the competition. be good if they could some gta exclusives without paying millions of dollars. (wishful thinking)
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Cookie


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:28 am Post subject: |
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"We don't, for lack of a better term, bribe somebody to only do a game on our platform" ..... A better term would be "partnership".
Give or take 10% PS3 & XBox 360 are fairly evenly matched with computing power, graphics, and internal storage all being in the same realm... Both have a certain level of difficulty to program and the market has the same expectations about what the games should be like. For this reason it makes sense for publishers to become good at porting their titles across both platforms to maximise their market share. Most games will become available and will look & feel the same on both brands. The differentiator being some fine tuning and extra content developed for each respective platform and it is fair that the developer provides these at a cost to the console vendor who can directly profit from distributing it through their online communities.
To develop an entire product exclusively for one of the platforms is obviously more risky and it is fair in these instances that the console vendor assume some portion of that risk in compensation. The only reason Jack Trettin is not doing deals himself is that Sony doesn't have the spare cash to partner with any of the big development houses the way Microsoft does. They can't compete. They also cant afford to pay for external studio time as they will be using whatever resources they have keeping their company owned studio's afloat who by the same economic models have to make money by getting enough sales to cover costs. Sony is now very dependent on the success of its own studio's which flies in the face of what Jack is saying in this artical. In reality Sony does not have the mix it once did.
Right now Sony is busy looking too attribute cash flow from potential advertising, online distribution of content etc... They need to do this because they expect losses to continue and they need to present future earnings to shareholders as upside. Nintendo's net worth being greater than Sony is not so much about how good a job Nintendo has done, but more how bad Sony is traveling.
Nintendo is clever in that they have successfully translated the success of DS and brought it to the lounge room. Because the expectations of how games will appear on Wii are quite different - the cost to produce titles are less. In addition the Wii market coverage is overlapping the others as well as bringing reach to new audiences so the "risks" are less and the potential gains are great. It is inevitable that more exclusives titles should appear on Wii.
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Rob_Jedi


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Sony producing a Metal Gear Movie wouldn't have anything to do with that games exclusivity would it? _________________
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Cobla

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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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It seems a little stupid to say "we don't fund development" when they create plenty of first party games.
He's trying to split hairs there IMO.
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Jim Dash


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Of course the Wii will have its exclusive titles. Do you really think Raving Rabbits (or whatever its called) is going to be enjoyable on the 360 or PS3 like it was on the Wii?
The only reason the Wii will get is exclusives are because they're designed around the remote, generally. Besides the big 3, the Wii can shove its exclusives.
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john_solids


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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i dont think he is talking about first party games, i think he is talking about the likes of gta and other parties, not their own.
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LeonJ


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously don't think Sony's first party titles are enough. Nintendo can reply on this because they make AAA+ games. They won the last two generations because of the 3rd support. Big name games only available on their console is the reason they were number one.
They will sink if they think they can get away wtih this. In fact, it might be too late. _________________ Shin J Leon.
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PSN - LeonJ
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SMASHED

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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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So when they struggle they start criticizing? And who cares if they buy exclusivity? It might make the PS3 a little less crap. _________________ Eternity-he is coming to get us
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Sol_Bad


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| LeonJ wrote: | Seriously don't think Sony's first party titles are enough. Nintendo can reply on this because they make AAA+ games. They won the last two generations because of the 3rd support. Big name games only available on their console is the reason they were number one.
They will sink if they think they can get away wtih this. In fact, it might be too late. |
ooohhhh
So Gran Turismo, Shadow of the Colossus, Syphon Filter, God of War, Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter, SOCOM, Killzone, Eyetot, Singstar, Buzz, Twisted Metal, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, WRC, F1 and contless other Sony games never helped to sell Playstation consoles?
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TheAnswer


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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What a load of bs, I guess Microsoft buying the exclusive rights for the GTAIV content really hit a nerve with Sony  _________________ RIP Buddha 19/10/1952 - 03/01/2004
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Nexus


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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A few years ago when the PS2 had a wealth of exclusive games and content it would have been understandable for comments like this to have been made. But the PS3 doesn't have market dominance like the PS2 did and if Sony want to catch up they are going to need exclusive content/games on the PS3. Even if they have to pay for it. First party Sony titles may be great titles but they are not great enough to win the console war by themselves.
They can make these sorts of comments but in the end the consumer is going to decide with thier wallet and if they want GTA4 then they'll probably buy the 360 for that. The "comeback" comments like this are really immature and reflect badly on the company and the industry.
| Sol_Bad wrote: | | LeonJ wrote: | Seriously don't think Sony's first party titles are enough. Nintendo can reply on this because they make AAA+ games. They won the last two generations because of the 3rd support. Big name games only available on their console is the reason they were number one.
They will sink if they think they can get away wtih this. In fact, it might be too late. |
ooohhhh
So Gran Turismo, Shadow of the Colossus, Syphon Filter, God of War, Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter, SOCOM, Killzone, Eyetot, Singstar, Buzz, Twisted Metal, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, WRC, F1 and contless other Sony games never helped to sell Playstation consoles? |
These games may have helped sell the system but games like Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Ridge Racer, Tekken, Kingdom Hearts and GTA had a bigger impact than most of these games. I agree with Leon, especially when you consider thoose titles you mentioned compared to Poke'mon, Zelda, Mario and other first party Nintendo games. _________________
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ugh the boot


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| LeonJ wrote: | | Seriously don't think Sony's first party titles are enough. Nintendo can reply on this because they make AAA+ games. They won the last two generations because of the 3rd support. Big name games only available on their console is the reason they were number one. |
I think you'll find this comes down to personal taste as imo the God of War games (which are 1st party sony games) are better than any Nintendo game i've played in my whole life. Sony do make AAA+ titles, it just comes down to whether you prefer their's or Nintendo's.
Neither Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft can achieve market dominance on 1st party games alone.
List of Sony owned franchises:
Alundra
Ape Escape
Arc the Lad
ATV Offroad Fury
Blasto
Buzz!
Colony Wars
Dark Cloud
Destruction Derby
Downhill Domination
Extermination
EyeToy
FantaVision
Formula One
God of War
Gran Turismo
Grind Session
Hot Shots Golf
ICO
Intelligent Qube
Jak and Daxter
Jet Moto
Jumping Flash
Kileak: The DNA Imperative
Killzone
Kinetica
Legend of Legaia
Lemmings
LocoRoco
MediEvil
MLB
Motor Toon Grand Prix
MotorStorm
NBA ShootOut
NCAA Final Four
NCAA GameBreaker
NFL GameDay
NFL Xtreme
NHL FaceOff
Okage: Shadow King
Omega Boost
Philosoma
PoPoLoCrois
Porsche Challenge
Primal
Ratchet & Clank
Resistance: Fall of Man
Rogue Galaxy
Shadow of the Colossus
SingStar
Siren
Sky Odyssey
Sly Cooper
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs
Syphon Filter
The Getaway
The Legend of Dragoon
The Mark of Kri
Turbo Prop Racing
Twisted Metal
War of the Monsters
Warhawk
White Knight Story
Wild Arms
Wipeout _________________
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Crestfallen


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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| ugh the boot wrote: | | Neither Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft can achieve market dominance on 1st party games alone. |
Yeah exactly, its about maintaining a balance. Just because Nintendo make "teh AAAAA++++" games, it doesn't mean squat because it doesn't cater for a wide enough audience to mark any success. Everyone needs 3rd party backing to succeed. _________________
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