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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Goldeneye on VC is "possible" Reply with quote

Goldeneye on VC is "possible" by Chris Leigh
Wii News: Rare continues to tease us. Grr.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And that also notes the possibility that it could come to XBLA, right? If that was the case, would it be under the size limit?

Awesome...seriously.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i hope that it comes out on the VC as it is (imo) the most enjoyable FPS that i have ever played. and since i lost the game (stolen?) it will be any instant purchase for me!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd personally like to see the game on XBLA, not the VC. That way we can at least hope to expect some additions to the original game, like online multiplayer or enhanced visuals.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it was to be re-relased i think we would see it on XBL. M$ own the rights to this game now, and i don't see them giving it to nintendo.

But personally i don't care. I Played it about a year ago and the controlling is horrible. Nowdays it is nothing like it used to be.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd personally like to see the game on XBLA, not the VC. That way we can at least hope to expect some additions to the original game, like online multiplayer or enhanced visuals.

Wouldn't it be cool on both? XBLA can have the enhanced features, while VC can have it's original classic state.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The original calssic state would be on th actual n64 with an n64, not a virtual; controller. Playing it on wii would not add to the originality at all (you need a cartrige for that)

And image this on VC, there would be so many problems, all you have to do is look at mario kart, zelda occ ect.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it comes out on both, very cool. From a business sense as Rare is owned by M$ it seems most likley that it will appeaer on XBLA, but from a pure logic perspective it should be on VC as it was a N64 title.

If Nintendo and M$ work out some sort of deal to deliver Rare/Nintendo content on both, that would be the only way everyone (including the consumer) wins
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The original calssic state would be on th actual n64 with an n64, not a virtual; controller. Playing it on wii would not add to the originality at all (you need a cartrige for that)

Yeah, but you know what I meant anyway.

Is there still the Bond licence holdup?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This would be awesome news if it were to come out on VC and LIVE arcade. Having this playable (or PD) online would be unreal.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been burnt from the OoT port to the VC, so I think I'm sticking well clear of the N64 games.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nintendo co-owns the rights to the Goldeneye code. The license was bought by Nintendo, not Rare. Nintendo basically hired Rare as a then second party to make the game for them.

Nintendo also has a lot of clever patents that allow them to own they way their systems worked - this is why we've seen very few NES/SNES/N64 games in any of the retro collections released by third parties on PS2. Capcom had to re-program their Megaman games for the Megaman collections rather then emulate, because Nintendo owned the rights to the way the NES worked. The NES patents have expired now, but the SNES and N64 ones have years left to run.

Still, I can basically play Goldeneye on my Wii right now anyway. It's called Timesplitters 2.
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The original calssic state would be on th actual n64 with an n64, not a virtual; controller. Playing it on wii would not add to the originality at all (you need a cartrige for that)

And image this on VC, there would be so many problems, all you have to do is look at mario kart, zelda occ ect.


What problems?

As far as i know the only 'problems' are the games keeping their original sub 30 fps from the bygone days;that really is only a problem in the eye of the beholder.
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And image this on VC, there would be so many problems, all you have to do is look at mario kart, zelda occ ect.


That statement makes no sense.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i haven't seen any problems with mario kart and i have had it since the 26th of jan... had a heap of friends over the other night and we were playing for like 2 hours and not one problem came up. it's just as i remember it
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still, I can basically play Goldeneye on my Wii right now anyway. It's called Timesplitters 2.


I agree with David. Timsplitters is an excellent multiplayer game but in my experience for some reason it just doesn't seem to click with the more casual gamer even though they loved goldeneye.

In regards to the Bond license, even though activision owns it now would that effect this game being re-released? I would imagine that Activision would be jumping to get into the act as they may be able to make a quick buck and all they have to do is sit on their arses?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh dear. I opened this thread expecting alot of "who cares" but found out that people want to play this game.

I remember when me and my brother first played it. The sniper rifle on the first level set my heart on fire.

I booted it up on the N64 (shame on you people who don't take care of your old consoles and games) a couple of months ago and nearly vomitted. Yeah, it hasn't age too well. The nostalgia was nice and the fact that its a classic means it should be distributed digitally but I'll be damned if I'll play it again.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mario kart on vc is horrible. When you run over banana peals you doon't spin. There are quite a few problems with it.

Now i have not played zelda OCT on VC, but have read that there a quite a few problems with it.
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Bland corridors with blurry N64 graphics and quite the liklihood no online multiplayer aspects.

Doesn't really create a great impression.

You know sometimes I think people should leave things in the past. Why ruin your past experiences. The world has moved on and there are some fantastic mulitplayer games on the market you don't need retro to have fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've played Goldeneye in recent years and it still is playable for me.

"don't need retro to have fun"... you must have abandoned all the great games of the past and just focusing on the future. You hate games.
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I've played Goldeneye in recent years and it still is playable for me.

"don't need retro to have fun"... you must have abandoned all the great games of the past and just focusing on the future. You hate games.

I see where realitybites is coming from. Games as a media is different to say literature. No-one is going dismiss George Orwell books just because they're over years old.

Nearly all aspects of gaming is directly linked with technological capabilities, so I think it can be argued that gaming quality increases over the years.

Also keep in mind what a game is aiming for. Games on the N64 aimed for full 3D entertainment and now they look and feel like sh!t. However the games on the SNES and Mega Drive aimed for the 2D or side-scrolling template, which requires less tecnological prowess and was achieved. They still feel great to play 15 years on.

*not sure if anybody understands what I mean*
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I totally agree with you.

Snes for example had unreal 2D, where as N64 has full 3D but massive lag.
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I know what you mean. Some games are just unplayable years on, but there are games that are timeless aswell. But I wouldn't say the N64 feels like sh!t.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing wrong with Goldeneye's graphics, it's the controls. Map it to dual analogue (digital now) sticks on the 360's controller, up the multiplayer limit and give it online and it'd rule.
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Give Goldeneye a decent framerate and Dual Analogue/Key-Mouse and it holds up fine. Add online multiplayer and it'll become fairly popular. Still, it's dated compared to the newer FPS's, so perhaps the VC is the way to go.
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