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| B-Zero wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: |
The plan is to take this community driven site a step or two further with greater involvement from the community in all facets of the site.
I can't really say more at this point other than a completely new front end is being designed from the ground up.
I'm not really at liberty to spill too many beans regarding the new look, but you can be assured that in many ways there will be a big difference between current PALGN and what is being planned.
Still, currently there is a lot of work to be done before we get to that point, and it's mostly going to be boring, behind-the-scenes stuff. . |
| Furianshi wrote: | | The site isn't currently undergoing anything though. |
Oh so all the above were empty comments aimed at trying to convince that palgn is headed in a good direction even though it "isnt currently undergoing anything".
You seem like a corporate drone.. wait thats just another name for a Bot.. surprise!! |
A bot? ... that doesn't even make sense. And I don't like ties, so I'd probably make a pretty shit corporate drone too.
Actually, you know what... ?
*slaps B-Zero*
| B-Zero wrote: | All the true turds come out of the woodwork in situations like these.
I honestly wouldn't want to jump ship with a lot of the regulars here as they seem to have grown superiority complexes and belittle anyone they feel isn't worthy of their almighty time.
They hide behind a never ending wall of meme pictures in an effort to try and look witty and funny, but really there is no input to any conversation this way and it ends up being boring.
This forum will get a fresh start once everyone jumps ship. Cleaned out of the all the veterans stinking up the place making way for a new generation to create their own forum sub culture. One day the 'old crew' will venture back from their rocket and wonder "what happened to the good old days?". Well you got old and tired.. then a very smart website owner came along and devised a plan to get rid of all the dirty rats stinking the place up so he could start over fresh with a new optimistic bunch of members instead of the pessimistic closed off bunch you people have become.
/Rant end, punk ass bitches. |
that's the B-Zero that I choose to remember. Telling it how it is. Not this small confused person before me now that can't seem to differentiate in his mind between simple concepts such as plans and taking action.
It's all written here in my posts. There's no conspiracy of pretending to do something with the site when in reality we won't be, or anything ridiculous like that.
It's pretty simple.
Future PALGN is in the planning stage, where nothing is actually physically being done with any of the code that makes up PALGN. That will happen in the next phase, after the planning. So it is accurate to say, that currently, the site isn't undergoing anything.
I don't know if I can make it any clearer than that, I really hope that explanation was sufficient.
| ThunderCurls wrote: | PALGN promotes random users to administrative status,
Said users suddenly care about PALGN future. |
Yep, at one stage there, I'd almost given up hope of PALGN ever really reaching it's full potential. A mob mentality, where new users, or even just someone with a differing opinion to general forum consensus, can be made to feel alienated is not a productive environment in a place where you want to see community growth.
The way I see it now, once the new forum guidelines and everything else is introduced, the site will have a much larger chance at growth than it did with the previous, closed-off, group-mentality community (all of them individually great people, I'm sure). The way things were being handled previously, it was great for the small community that resided here, but for anyone else, maybe a little too intimidating to bother with.
So now, my main problem with the site has kind of fixed itself. While it's not quite like how B-Zero hypothesised, where it was all a well-orchestrated plan, he has a point where he said that it would do the place good to have a bit of a user-flush.
So yeah, you're right, I care now that the place has a greater potential. And also because I've heard of some super-cool ideas that may end up being implemented here.
And believe me, I would much rather watch this from the sidelines, who else was going to help though if I didn't?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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You remind me of a mother that keeps trying to resuscitate her dead son because she's can't deal with the fact he is dead. Like this forum.
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Furianshi
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| Kurupt wrote: | | You remind me of a mother that keeps trying to resuscitate her dead son because she's can't deal with the fact he is dead. |
I am honoured, thank you. 
You remind me of a plank of wood.
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One of the largest days of the year for gaming and not a single mention, news story or news post. It actually makes me quite sad. Even with plans for a "new" Palgn, I am surprised it has neglected E3.
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Well it's hard to run a site in which the staff don't even play video games.
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Holy shit palgn died?
But.... how?
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| Appel wrote: | | Well it's hard to run a site in which the staff don't even play video games. |
You know who doesn't play videogames? The voice actor for Baird in Gears of War: Judgement. Hasn't even played a Gears of War game. His voice acting is pretty good though.
Actually, you've raised an issue there appel, that I'd like to touch on.
At PALGN, we all play games of some form or another. We are in an age now when it pays to have a well-rounded team when running a gaming website. So, as well as a couple of core gamers on the team, we also have a couple who are into the Android/handheld, casual-styled games that are hugely popular these days.
It is our opinion here at PALGN that to market ourselves as a purely hardcore community in today's gaming climate, it would limit our audience and kinda be like shooting ourselves in the foot. And our PALGN feet are still in bandages and stuff, so we don't want to do that anymore.
This is one of the areas where PALGN will be changing slightly. The idea isn't to go all soft, the site is for everyone - from the casual to the core, all gamers. It's just that there will be a new level of acceptance and tolerance that we will be encouraging with our members. This will be so that anyone can feel comfortable signing up and joining in the discussion.
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| Furianshi wrote: | | Appel wrote: | | Well it's hard to run a site in which the staff don't even play video games. |
You know who doesn't play videogames? The voice actor for Baird in Gears of War: Judgement. |
I guess you better not get him to write for PALGN then.
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| Furianshi wrote: | | Appel wrote: | | Well it's hard to run a site in which the staff don't even play video games. |
You know who doesn't play videogames? The voice actor for Baird in Gears of War: Judgement. Hasn't even played a Gears of War game. His voice acting is pretty good though.
Actually, you've raised an issue there appel, that I'd like to touch on.
At PALGN, we all play games of some form or another. We are in an age now when it pays to have a well-rounded team when running a gaming website. So, as well as a couple of core gamers on the team, we also have a couple who are into the Android/handheld, casual-styled games that are hugely popular these days.
It is our opinion here at PALGN that to market ourselves as a purely hardcore community in today's gaming climate, it would limit our audience and kinda be like shooting ourselves in the foot. And our PALGN feet are still in bandages and stuff, so we don't want to do that anymore.
This is one of the areas where PALGN will be changing slightly. The idea isn't to go all soft, the site is for everyone - from the casual to the core, all gamers. It's just that there will be a new level of acceptance and tolerance that we will be encouraging with our members. This will be so that anyone can feel comfortable signing up and joining in the discussion. |
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| Edgedancer wrote: | | One of the largest days of the year for gaming and not a single mention, news story or news post. It actually makes me quite sad. Even with plans for a "new" Palgn, I am surprised it has neglected E3. |
| Till@ wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: | | Appel wrote: | | Well it's hard to run a site in which the staff don't even play video games. |
You know who doesn't play videogames? The voice actor for Baird in Gears of War: Judgement. |
I guess you better not get him to write for PALGN then. |
If you can type and if you post on PALGN, you will be a writer. This is a small part of the new community focus drive that we are planning. It's going to be pretty cool.
I understand that it might be a little difficult to picture how it'll work with the site in it's current form, as there is a front page for news articles etc, but it will all make sense in due time, hopefully before the end of the year. There will be a lot of work involved, and as mentioned previously, Jason is our tech guy and currently is pretty pre-occupied with his actual job.
So we have a bit of time in this limbo stage where it'll look as though the place is broken/non-functional. The reality is though, that the current format does not fully match our plans and is awaiting an overhaul.
Edit: @Thundercurls - Bruce Lee was an open-minded person, all about progression, moving with the times and opening his art to a greater audience. So I doubt he would've actually raged at my post, and I feel you should've looked harder for a more appropriate gif. 
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| Furianshi wrote: | | If you can type and if you post on PALGN, you will be a writer. This is a small part of the new community focus drive that we are planning. It's going to be pretty cool. |
All trolling aside, I'm genuinely curious what that actually means.
Does that mean that what used to be known as the "User Reviews" will be the sites main content? Does it mean that literally anyone with a keyboard will be able to be a "writer" without any exclusion or selection process? Will there be any kind of QA involved? If everyone is a writer, how will relationships with publishers/developers be gained/maintained? Will that kind of thing be on a personal level with each writer, or will it be with the site as a whole? If so, who would/will do that? Will the site remain solely at the discretion of Roland or will there be some kind of organizational structure?
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It means the owners just want us to do all the work while they are sitting by the beach, sipping on their c0cktails, collecting their ad revenue cheques. It's that simple. All advertisements on this site are up-to-date, yet everything else remains exactly the same as it was 4 months ago.
| Furianshi wrote: | | Appel wrote: | | Well it's hard to run a site in which the staff don't even play video games. |
You know who doesn't play videogames? The voice actor for Baird in Gears of War: Judgement. Hasn't even played a Gears of War game. |
Yeah, so? He didn't help develop the game, or is a part of the company that makes it, which is what Appel is arguing. Therefore your analogy makes absolutely no sense.
I honestly want this site to thrive again, I really do, that's why I keep visiting. But with all this 'community-driven' bullshit being thrown around, it's very clear to see that Roland is just leaving this site open for us to do all the work, and it's probably good to have PALGN as a part of his online portfolio. Not that the name has any credibility anymore after all the sslinging here last year, so I don't see the point.
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| Till@ wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: | | If you can type and if you post on PALGN, you will be a writer. This is a small part of the new community focus drive that we are planning. It's going to be pretty cool. |
All trolling aside, I'm genuinely curious what that actually means.
Does that mean that what used to be known as the "User Reviews" will be the sites main content? Does it mean that literally anyone with a keyboard will be able to be a "writer" without any exclusion or selection process? Will there be any kind of QA involved? If everyone is a writer, how will relationships with publishers/developers be gained/maintained? Will that kind of thing be on a personal level with each writer, or will it be with the site as a whole? If so, who would/will do that? Will the site remain solely at the discretion of Roland or will there be some kind of organizational structure? |
Maybe think outside of the box a bit more. I think I've said too much for now anyway, so this will be my last post in this thread for a while.
| mrcool37 wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: | | Appel wrote: | | Well it's hard to run a site in which the staff don't even play video games. |
You know who doesn't play videogames? The voice actor for Baird in Gears of War: Judgement. Hasn't even played a Gears of War game. |
Yeah, so? He didn't help develop the game, or is a part of the company that makes it, which is what Appel is arguing. Therefore your analogy makes absolutely no sense. |
I didn't actually take what appel was saying too seriously, just noting something related that I saw in an interview this week. I thought it was strange that the guy hadn't played any GoW games, not even for preparation for the role and getting into character.
| mrcool37 wrote: | It means the owners just want us to do all the work while they are sitting by the beach, sipping on their c0cktails, collecting their ad revenue cheques. It's that simple. All advertisements on this site are up-to-date, yet everything else remains exactly the same as it was 4 months ago...
I honestly want this site to thrive again, I really do, that's why I keep visiting. But with all this 'community-driven' b**** being thrown around, it's very clear to see that Roland is just leaving this site open for us to do all the work, and it's probably good to have PALGN as a part of his online portfolio. Not that the name has any credibility anymore after all the sslinging here last year, so I don't see the point. |
Not that you are even close, but even if you are, how would that be any different than the previous way of doing things; using unpaid 'staff' writers? Everyone was cool with that, right? I think you're taking a rather cynical outlook there anyway, mrcool. There are plenty of sites out there, thriving quite well, where the site is designed to be used purely as a tool for coming together and sharing news and common interests. So don't worry too much mate.
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| Furianshi wrote: |
I didn't actually take what appel was saying too seriously, just noting something related that I saw in an interview this week. I thought it was strange that the guy hadn't played any GoW games, not even for preparation for the role and getting into character.
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How would he play a game that didn't exist to get into the role of the chacater he was playing in it?
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lol steering committee.
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Lol steering committee.
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Might as well call it mrcoolGN
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| mrcool37 wrote: | | Lol steering committee. |
currently just playing with the wheel while sitting at the lights, waiting for green to go.
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