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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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hip hop isn't rock. And I have mentioned concern about the other two years, but not in as great detail. they are all wrong.

How old are you? How could you possibly know? I think it's pretty spot on.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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especially the style they have under 90's which should really be 70's


Uh... I'm not sure what 90's you lived through but remember it looked like this


I see long black sleeves, full sleeve tats and tat free arms there.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

1960's - Peace movement, lots of folky bands popular alongside harder acts like The Who and The Rolling Stones.

1980's - Heavy metal explosion pushed on by the new wave of British heavy metal and Bay area thrash. Horns helped brought to fore by Ronny James Dio, who started using them at live performances not long after joining Black Sabbath in 1979.

1990's - Resurgence of punk, sitting alongside the early 90's grunge movement and later post-grunge alternative scenes. Raised fists are so common that there's even a hardcore punk band named as such.

2012 - Everyone has cameras at a gig, and Ramblerun lacks a sense of humour.

Did I cover everything?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't remember the 90's like that because head isn't in the photo, sigh
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Sorry img wouldn't work so here it is.
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is he the one that found god and became a hardcore evangelist?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Filming during live bands saddens me. I remember seeing Opeth a few years go, and we managed to get right up the front and centre in the mosh pit. Perfect view of the whole thing, right in the thick of it. Despite people moving about, smashing into him, and being in a great position, one of the guys who came with us spent 80% of the show trying to capture the performance on his phone.

Why would you deliberately worsen the potential memory of seeing one of your favourite bands live by spending the entire time making a shitty capture with bad audio on your phone, so badly filmed you'll never watch it again?

Stupid new generation is stupid.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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The only time I ever try to get captures on my phone is when I'm right up back.

Got this improv Smashing Pumpkins song as a result, fairly glad I did as it's the best quality audio on Youtube for it. The other version up there has more views and likes because it was recorded close to the stage, despite the fact that the audio is far worse and the song isn't clear over people screaming in the pit.

tl;dr - people are idiots.



(The Presets are playing on the adjacent stage)
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is he the one that found god and became a hardcore evangelist?


yep, and now he makes god awful christian doom metal, surprisingly he found god while off his face on meth
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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1960's - Peace movement, lots of folky bands popular alongside harder acts like The Who and The Rolling Stones.

1980's - Heavy metal explosion pushed on by the new wave of British heavy metal and Bay area thrash. Horns helped brought to fore by Ronny James Dio, who started using them at live performances not long after joining Black Sabbath in 1979.

1990's - Resurgence of punk, sitting alongside the early 90's grunge movement and later post-grunge alternative scenes. Raised fists are so common that there's even a hardcore punk band named as such.

2012 - Everyone has cameras at a gig, and Ramblerun lacks a sense of humour.

Did I cover everything?


Generally yes.

I will point out though that you have resurgence of punk in the 90's. Punk started in the 70's which is where it should be. Putting that style in the 90's is so far wrong that I'm surprised people agree with it. There are other versions of this image going around that make more sense.

Again I wouldn't usually pick on things like this, and I did find it amusing.

I still feel the innacuracy needed to be pointed out.
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Man, maybe in this country the hand gestures were different to where that image was made. I'm not a rock guy, but from what I remember seeing in the 80s and 90s, the image is correct. How could you possibly prove that it isn't? And why is this such a big issue for you? Saying you wouldn't normally pick on things like this doesn't help when you are currently picking on something like this.
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It's not a big issue really. People are putting up arguments and I am answering them.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rubbish

Punk started in the 1970's. Hence the resurgence in the 1990's. Nowhere can I find evidence that raising fists was a Thing in the 1970's. If anything, I'd expect to find it in the 1980's if I went looking in to the hardcore punk scene with Black Flag and the Dead Kennedys and the like.

Got some evidence anywhere to back up your claims?
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haha I did not know that.

Holy crap he's gone full on jesus

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

only pics i can see is people with an outstretched hand trying to touch johnny rotten and mick jones dick.

@benza
yeah, he was sitting there off his face going what am i doing, and jesus came down and said, yo head, what about your daughter you fucking idiot...and he said, well fuck, thanks jesus, i am off to act like a tosser.
The other dudes in korn just went, dude, just stop taking meth you fucking idiot...
The weird part for me is that he went from being a great guitar player to a horrible one overnight.....i say, yeah thanks jesus you cunt
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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Punk started in the 1970's. Hence the resurgence in the 1990's. Nowhere can I find evidence that raising fists was a Thing in the 1970's. If anything, I'd expect to find it in the 1980's if I went looking in to the hardcore punk scene with Black Flag and the Dead Kennedys and the like.

Got some evidence anywhere to back up your claims?


I probably could find some but I'm not going to. But it is pretty clear to me that the style depicted there is meant to be punk of the 70's (it is shown in this year on variations to the image). I can find evidence however of fist clenching in the northern soul music culture of the 60's (not rock but still much earlier than 90's).
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Oh hang on. Your problem is that it says ROCK and it's more a METAL thing?
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Wow.

Just. Wow.

So your entire argument is on the basis that someone did it somewhere once thus proving an entire cultural zeitgeist wrong?

I don't even.
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Oh hang on. Your problem is that it says ROCK and it's more a METAL thing?


no.

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Wow.



So your entire argument is on the basis that someone did it somewhere once thus proving an entire cultural zeitgeist wrong?



Huh? I do not deny that fist clenching has it's place in the 90's, but not before it belongs in 70's rock culture. That I am 100% certain.

My original gripe was that there are styles missing and that they are in the wrong order. That's all. Just an observation I was making.
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Punk started in the 1970's. Hence the resurgence in the 1990's. Nowhere can I find evidence that raising fists was a Thing in the 1970's. If anything, I'd expect to find it in the 1980's if I went looking in to the hardcore punk scene with Black Flag and the Dead Kennedys and the like.

Got some evidence anywhere to back up your claims?


I probably could find some but I'm not going to. But it is pretty clear to me that the style depicted there is meant to be punk of the 70's (it is shown in this year on variations to the image). I can find evidence however of fist clenching in the northern soul music culture of the 60's (not rock but still much earlier than 90's).


It's satire, a joke, humour. Shut up.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a post here by Ramblerun a minute ago.

Dude, you called the image I posted "incredibly wrong"... whereas it's actually pretty much absolutely correct... and you started it... so... NYEH!

Anyway, fuck this.


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There was a post here by Ramblerun a minute ago.

Dude, you called the image I posted "incredibly wrong"... whereas it's actually pretty much absolutely correct... and you started it... so... NYEH!

Anyway, **** this.



There was, it was in relation to ThunderCurls less than constructive input. My comment was also less than constructive so I deleted it.

Punk first in the 90's? Wrong.

This I believe is the original picture. Someone has updated it and changed the middle two and years around.

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that's... kind of more wrong though?
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