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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Final Fantasy XIII-2 Review Reply with quote

Final Fantasy XIII-2 Review by Jeremy
PALGN Review: Oh good, it's not an excuse to play dress ups.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RE: the subtitle

I'm so sick of people dismissing FFX-2 as "playing dress ups". If they had bothered to play the game they'd know that it's an updated and unique version of the Job System, and a very good one at that. Get over it.

/* End rant */
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RE: the subtitle

I'm so sick of people dismissing FFX-2 as "playing dress ups". If they had bothered to play the game they'd know that it's an updated and unique version of the Job System, and a very good one at that. Get over it.

/* End rant */


I enjoyed X-2 quite a bit too. It was a bit odd but the combat worked well.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the review, boy you have been busy havnt you Jeremy? (Soul Calibur)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Great review.
I don't rate the storyline of the game at all and have lost track due to lack of interest but the gameplay is quite enjoyable.
Agree that players should really be encouraged to get through XIII first but it's their loss. As for the paradigm packs well it's really what you make of it - you can put as little or as much effort as you want into the combos, though it's not totally necessary for the game

The CGI or 'cut' scenes are whatever they call them these days are way to much for me. Maybe it's meant to be a signature of the FF series or something but it doesn't do it for me - same with the soundtrack

Overall the 8 is a fair score. I can actually see justification for pushing it to an 8.5 but at the same time if I stretch it the other way 7.5 would work too.. Fans of the XIII or just the series in general will snap it up and largely enjoy it either way
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice review (especially considering...). I'm still tempted to pick it up but not at the brand new price most places are trying to sell it for.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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topaz wrote:
RE: the subtitle

I'm so sick of people dismissing FFX-2 as "playing dress ups". If they had bothered to play the game they'd know that it's an updated and unique version of the Job System, and a very good one at that. Get over it.

/* End rant */


Whilst it's rather obvious that it's an updated job system, I think the primary issue was that it took an already existing "take" with it as when I first played it (and suitably threw a tantrum at all the 0.1% scenes BS I missed on my way to missing mascot) I immediately wondered why Sailor Moon was deemed a brilliant idea for transformation sequences. Because whilst I had no problem with the job system, I saw a consistent effort to get a womans naked outline on a screen during the transition, and lady luck, well, skimpy harlot really it just felt cheap and nasty when the game largely attempts to be bright and bubbly. It's just over the top in some cases and comes off as insulting to the senses.

Anywho, the little sister preordered this and had the similar opinions on the cut scenes that they are just too lengthy and not holding her interest, although the game has since grown on her since initially she was questioning the preorder initially.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whilst it's rather obvious that it's an updated job system, I think the primary issue was that it took an already existing "take" with it as when I first played it (and suitably threw a tantrum at all the 0.1% scenes BS I missed on my way to missing mascot) I immediately wondered why Sailor Moon was deemed a brilliant idea for transformation sequences. Because whilst I had no problem with the job system, I saw a consistent effort to get a womans naked outline on a screen during the transition, and lady luck, well, skimpy harlot really it just felt cheap and nasty when the game largely attempts to be bright and bubbly. It's just over the top in some cases and comes off as insulting to the senses.


Fair points, but those transformation sequences can be turned off iirc.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Spoony sums FF X-2 up best in his 2 part video review. His logic is pretty hard to dismiss
but im sure many will be glad to :)

http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/game-reviews/final-fantasy-x-2/
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Final Fantasy X-2 is my favorite FF game. There I said it icon_biggrin.gif.

Banefire wrote:
http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/game-reviews/final-fantasy-x-2/


Oh god, it's one of those reviews. You can't really take reviews from the likes of Spoony or Yahtzee seriously, they're more for comedy.
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FFX2 panties parade >>>> this pile of crap.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can't really take reviews from the likes of Spoony or Yahtzee seriously, they're more for comedy.

I call BS on at least the Yahtzee front. His points are wrapped around vitriol, but satire is meant to have a point after all.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lol, So for starters you're saying the facts presented by Spoony in the FF X-2 review which show the inconsistencies FF X-2 has with FF X are fabricated or meaningless?

That the in-game content he shows is fake? icon_biggrin.gif

Spoony highlights the ridiculous behind the vision of FF X-2, the pandering to jpop appeal and obvious fanservice used in the game to make up for a poorly thought out and researched game which shares characters and the world from FF X but chooses to take creative licence with most of the games lore? (XIII-2 was also guilty of conflicting with the lore of XIII as well)

FF X-2 was insulting to any Squaresoft FF fan for using the Final Fantasy name in that way, and i get that people dont care about that as long as you get to see ass shots, skimpy outfits and sexual innuendos between cousins and other characters, vapid conversations and goals and........do i really need to continue?

Comedy has been and will always be a medium of introducing unpopular yet factual information to the wider community without getting yourself lynched (most of the time) and certainly has every place in the review of games if they are accurate.

I dont agree with everything that Spoony says, but if something is right, all the wishing in the world wont make it wrong. icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lol, So for starters you're saying the facts presented by Spoony in the FF X-2 review which show the inconsistencies FF X-2 has with FF X are fabricated or meaningless?


He bashed the game's storyline for 95% of the review. That's not a proper review icon_lol.gif. He barely touched on the gameplay except for this; "Oh, yeah, the battle is really good but I can exploit the game which means it sucks!!!1!".

Anyway, the game is cheesy and silly. Does that make it bad? Nope. It makes it fun. Personally I like all the ridiculous mini games, J-Pop music, crazy outfits, funny dialogue and characters and the dress sphere system. It was a lot of fun to play.

I can't comment on the inconsistencies with the lore of FF because I don't know much about the series before FFX.

Spoony's review is fine. It's a comedic piss take on the game. I'm betting deep down he loves FFX-2. But does over analyzing the storyline and comedy in the game for 95% of the review make it a credible review? In my opinion it doesn't.
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lol, So for starters you're saying the facts presented by Spoony in the FF X-2 review which show the inconsistencies FF X-2 has with FF X are fabricated or meaningless?


I haven't watched the review, but I'm going to say yes, cause spoony is an untallented hack riding the sucess of a funny lets play he did like 5 years ago.
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I hadn't even heard of Spoony till Banefire linked the review...
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hehehehe dress up, tats funny

i mean they all where different clothes, like waay outta style in this particular setting

same as X-2

pretty much is dress up, interesting dress up =D
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

topaz wrote:
RE: the subtitle

I'm so sick of people dismissing FFX-2 as "playing dress ups". If they had bothered to play the game they'd know that it's an updated and unique version of the Job System, and a very good one at that. Get over it.

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I won't lie. I sort of wish the Paradigm shifts resulted in different costumes.
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Im dying to play this, but I need to beat FF13 first, and that makes me want to die :\
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How far into FFXIII are you?
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There's a beginner's prime in FFXIII-2 that goes into what happened during XIII.
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Indeed, that's what I was thinking of. It's not quite the same as actually playing the game though, but if he's close to the end... It would be a shame to let FFXIII stand in the way of people playing FFXIII-2. For most intents and purposes, it's a better game.
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