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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't mistake high visual fidelity with "better" picture. For instance digital screens are technically better but I love watching movies in film.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Am I the only one who doesn't really mind 30FPS?
I'd rather have the jaggies cleaned up.


I'm the opposite. I'd much rather sacrifice the image quality to maintain a smooth FPS. Jaggies have never really bothered me.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ugh, what is wrong with people?

They don't know any better because they are conditioned with the same old refresh rates. It's easy to blame people for being stupid... I do it a lot... but it's hardly their fault if they never knew anything different.


That's not necessarily true.
I always notice the choppy film framerates when fog rolls in in films, yet I'm usually not bothered by (solid) 30FPS.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If the 'next gen' of consoles can't do games at 1080p at constant 60fps then we might as well skip it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^ I'd be asking for quad-HD or 4k myself, but sure!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seperable Subsurface Scattering rendered in real-time on a 3D face (in fact, everything including the DOF is realtime). This is the most realistic skin texture work I've seen.



You can also download the demo for rotating the face and such here.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they can make a face that looks THAT good and they chose male features to show it off?? No offense boys icon_razz.gif

We're really moving away from the uncanny valley though icon_smile.gif
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^ I think if it was an animated face you'd see it's smack bang in the uncanny valley icon_wink.gif

Looks brilliant though. I wonder if the model is a scan of the researchers? icon_lol.gif I think male face was a good choice for the detail of stubble and blemishes. Not being female I'm more or less conditioned seeing women as unblemished icon_wink.gif



Trying to download the live demo... 50MB @ 25kB/s is taking too long =(
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Just played with the realtime demo and what impresses me most is specular highlights along with the bump mapping. It is absolutely ridiculous how accurate it handles lighting conditions and exposure.

Runs pretty well too. Running on only one card in Eyefinity (scales up) it managed about 55ish frames.
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^ I got over 100 fps through the whole thing surprisingly according to Fraps O_O No eyefinity though obviously.

Imagine how much it would take its toll if that was a game with a bunch of other things happening in the background though. But if this is how the next gen is going to look bring it on icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Runs pretty well too. Running on only one card in Eyefinity (scales up) it managed about 55ish frames.


You should be getting a better framerate than that, though eyefinity might be the culprit.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We're really moving away from the uncanny valley though icon_smile.gif


at this point in time uncanny valley has far more to do with animation then it does with rendering.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was playing with this a couple of days ago. It's pretty swe-



*violently throws up*
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it bad the first thing I thought of was a new born full grown man?
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No, because that was what I was trying to create icon_razz.gif.

Either that or a lubed up android.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Frozencry wrote:
Runs pretty well too. Running on only one card in Eyefinity (scales up) it managed about 55ish frames.


You should be getting a better framerate than that, though eyefinity might be the culprit.


Tis the eyefinity indeed, peripherals render depth of field and film grain only. Without Eyefinity I'm hitting 200+.
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I may have missed it elsewhere on this site, but:

http://games.on.net/article/14849/PALGNs_Entire_Editorial_Team_to_Quit
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is it bad the first thing I thought of was a new born full grown man?


Like that scene in Gozu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mFNdeHTb9M (very NSFW).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DLC-itis.


This this and this

DLC Sucks


http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/121/1218099p1.html

Satoru Iwata, revealed the company has added "NFC" technology to Wii U's tablet controller. The communication standard allows for proximity-based interaction between the controller and a nearby device with similar capabilities.

"By installing this functionality, it will become possible to create cards and figurines that can electronically read and write data via noncontact NFC and to expand the new play format in the video game world. Adoption of this functionality will enable various other possibilities such as using it as a means of making micropayments."

Seriously. This and the rumors of a new-game only xbox, I think this gen will be my final one a a gamer. It clearly more about the business than the consumer in the future................
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It clearly more about the business than the consumer

Seriously, when has it not been?
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Its the difference between making you money through meeting customer desires and making your money by creating market oligopolies through trade restriction barriers.....
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Its the difference between making you money through meeting customer desires and making your money by creating market oligopolies through trade restriction barriers.....


and again I ask when has this not been the case? Seriously?

It's just the tech these days is allowing them to be more creative in how they fuck us over.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd say it's less oligarchical now, emech.
Between now and the NES days there has been the proliferation of homebrew software, the rise of digital distribution on open platforms like XBLIG and the App Store, as well as the third party "revolt" of the n64 era; not to mention the first generation with a proper Game Boy competitor and diversity amongst the home consoles.

The only thing that's changing next gen is the fact that we don't have to type in our CC numbers to get DLC any more.
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remember back in the NES era to get that little gold star approval from Nintendo you weren't allowed to release the game on a competitors system for at least 2 years. This kind of stuff has always been going on.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they can make a face that looks THAT good and they chose male features to show it off?? No offense boys icon_razz.gif

We're really moving away from the uncanny valley though icon_smile.gif



Deffinitely not offended, as I agree icon_lol.gif
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