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Did someone mention Pokemon?
Yeah, chalk me down for a big ol' dose of 'do not want'.
I don't know, everyone and their mother's three cats seem to lose their shit over Pokemon. I just don't get it. I tried, I really did - I picked up ruby and gave that a red hot go... except that it looked and controlled like a beta from a first time solo programmer, and not a iteration on an already successful franchise, so I gave that up as a shit idea pretty quickly.
Seems like everyone just loves the idea of having these little monsters that they can collect and battle, so who gives a fuck if the game is any good?
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I think the main problem with pokemon is it's completly failed to keep up with the times. I mean when the original came out it was the shit, I played that game to fucking death.
However when the original came out I was in fucking primary school. The games aside from some minor changes are still exactly the fucking same, it took them what, 14 years to add animated sprites for fucks sake.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Benza wrote: | I think the main problem with pokemon is it's completly failed to keep up with the times. I mean when the original came out it was the ****, I played that game to **** death.
However when the original came out I was in **** primary school. The games aside from some minor changes are still exactly the **** same, it took them what, 14 years to add animated sprites for **** sake. |
I am exactly like you on this when the original hit i was all over that for so many many hours. I later thought hmmm wouldn't this be amazing if it came on console... I am still thinking that now and waiting..  *please don't mention pokemon stadium and shit like that if it isn't full on pokemon on console then it doesn't count!*
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Benza wrote: | | However when the original came out I was in **** primary school. The games aside from some minor changes are still exactly the **** same, it took them what, 14 years to add animated sprites for **** sake. |
Yet it's still a massive hit with each new refresh or iteration. It doesn't make sense.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Cosplay this, mother fuckers:
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Yeah chalk me up as a modern Pokemon hater. The original Blue/Red/Yellow games and its 150 Pokemon was the ultimate Pokemon. Every other iteration has sucked balls imo. Nothing's changed and the Pokemon just aren't as cool.
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I still don't get what the difference between Red/Blue and all subsequent games are. They added more pokemon and areas? That's about it? All the games seem identical to me.
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[edit]Completely missread Grims post, ignore me.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I actually liked the third gen Pokemon more than the first gen.
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| Frozencry wrote: | | Yeah chalk me up as a modern Pokemon hater. The original Blue/Red/Yellow games and its 150 Pokemon was the ultimate Pokemon. Every other iteration has sucked balls imo. Nothing's changed and the Pokemon just aren't as cool. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Pagan's Mind wrote: | | Benza wrote: | | However when the original came out I was in **** primary school. The games aside from some minor changes are still exactly the **** same, it took them what, 14 years to add animated sprites for **** sake. |
Yet it's still a massive hit with each new refresh or iteration. It doesn't make sense. |
It does. Its not made for you.
Pokemon is basically My little pony. A series made for each new batch of primary school kids, that "fans" just happen to go along with. Each couple of years there is a new batch of kids to sell it too. Too often we older gamers forget that there is a) appropriate age gaming - how many AAA games are NOT 15+ (rayman?) and b) gaming skills are developed over time. Casual/simple mechanics are needed in some games so that those "kids" can develop their skills. Pokemon fills the gap between casual and hardcore thanks to its multi-level of play (type match-ups and story VS training and competitive battling)
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| Island_Wolf wrote: | | Frozencry wrote: | | Yeah chalk me up as a modern Pokemon hater. The original Blue/Red/Yellow games and its 150 Pokemon was the ultimate Pokemon. Every other iteration has sucked balls imo. Nothing's changed and the Pokemon just aren't as cool. |
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Ah nostalgia, putting rose colored glasses on everything...................
MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GAME
Gen II (gold silver) = better balance (dark/steel types VS psyhic), genders and breeding and IV inheritance.
Gen III (ruby/saph) Pokémon Storage System now graphical user interface; Contests and ribbions; weather; double battles
Gen IV Pokémon are now able to be traded and battled over the Internet through the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection.
Gen V Seasons; rotation battles, re-useable TMs
Edit: sorry Froz - was updating change notes between posts - and this excludes mentioning the many new moves and abilities each gen brought.....
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I don't call it nostalgia if I can still turn on my Gameboy and have some decent fun with the game, I call that a good game.
All the new iterations of Pokemon are literal rehashes with minor mechanical changes. Kinda like MW2 and MW3 but with a little less copy paste.
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| grim-one wrote: | | I still don't get what the difference between Red/Blue and all subsequent games are. They added more pokemon and areas? That's about it? All the games seem identical to me. |
All the new moves and items have really shaken up the strategy a bit, especially in competitive.
I wouldn't want to play anything other that B/W online.
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^^ Well I'd like "GREY" since B/W over world design was clearly made with 3d in mind......
ah - thread derailment - sorry..................
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| emech wrote: | | Pagan's Mind wrote: | | Benza wrote: | | However when the original came out I was in **** primary school. The games aside from some minor changes are still exactly the **** same, it took them what, 14 years to add animated sprites for **** sake. |
Yet it's still a massive hit with each new refresh or iteration. It doesn't make sense. |
It does. ITS NOT MADE FOR YOU. |
Okay, no need to yell. Shesh.
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^^ Was capitalised for emphasis, not yelling. Sorry (will edit to bold).
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There's no Pokemon games other than Red/Blue/Yellow, all three of which owned. Nothing else exists and this is a fact.
I don't really like Pokemon anymore, but I still think the idea of a MMO style 3D console Pokemon game is a guaranteed system seller, and I'm not sure why Nintendo has never bothered to go down that path. Maybe their reluctance to dive into the online world is the reason.
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| Jarrod wrote: | There's no Pokemon games other than Red/Blue/Yellow, all three of which owned. Nothing else exists and this is a fact.
I don't really like Pokemon anymore, but I still think the idea of a MMO style 3D console Pokemon game is a guaranteed system seller, and I'm not sure why Nintendo has never bothered to go down that path. Maybe their reluctance to dive into the online world is the reason. |
There stated reason is that it would make pokemon impersonal. Which with online battling and trading already being a thing makes about as much sense as... well anything Nintendo do.
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I can see that they feel the portability of Pokemon is a big appeal of the franchise, and where the series is at home. That and they might be concerned with something like a big console MMO Pokemon cannibalising sales for their usual portable iterations.
But yeah, its always caught me as something that would explode if done right. Pokemon is still massive worldwide, and people have been asking for a online console iteration since Red/Blue/Yellow. There's no way it wouldn't print money.
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I don't see why it has to be a MMO on the big console.... Why can't it just be a standard like they do with the portable and just throw in trading and online battles. Really doesn't have to be a mmo....
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sure it doesn't have to be, but if they did do an MMO it would be fucking awesome
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| Benza wrote: | | sure it doesn't have to be, but if they did do an MMO it would be **** awesome |
Fucking oath but hey i've been waiting since nintendo 64 era (for a console version) haha its never going to happen... hate to say it.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Why make an MMO which would take a lot of effort and resources when you can re-release the same game and make $$$?
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