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| Frozencry wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: |
I get it though. You guys are all really tough, not being scared of little spiders and stuff. |
Come on, really?
I get that some people are afraid of spiders, and I get that it may freak them out that there are spiders in a game. But to actively ask a company to make a mod on the console to patch out spiders for a minority is ridiculous. This game has sold close to 10 million now and the mod hasn't even crossed 100,000 downloads and that's on the PC of all things (and that is on Skyrim Nexus, which is the absolute biggest modding site for Skyrim). It's a giant minority and as much as you'd want for Bethesda to care, they're really not going to bother.
I'm not tough because I can handle spiders fine, I never even implied that, I just think it's completely unreasonable to ask this of Bethesda. Pixiegirl is absolutely an arachnophobic, but even she was able to stomach through the game with spiders regardless of her unease with them.
Pretty much if you really want it done, buy the PC version then. Otherwise it's not happening because to put it blunt no one really cares, and putting mods into console versions is a pain in the arse, particularly with Microsoft being prissy with updates. |
Okay, firstly Denny, you are VERY tough because you can handle spiders. Don't talk yourself down mate.
Yes. Skyrim has sold 10 million copies, who cares? We don't know how many people passed on the game because of the spiders. And the mod was downloaded close to 100,000 times on tesnexus, but how many people don't even know about the mods existence, or traded their game before it came out?
And it's ridiculous and unreasonable to ask Bethesda to make a mod that would benefit up to 36% of the console gaming community? Giving feedback to developers, and asking for things to be changed in the games we spend money on, is one of our rights as the consumer. IMO, to suggest otherwise is what is ridiculous. If Bethesda were able to release horse fucking armour as a mod for Oblivion, I don't see what is wrong with suggesting a small adjustment that would actually be useful for some people.
I have to say, I actually thought my post linking to the petition was not a big deal. I was thinking maybe I'd get one or two signatures from the odd arachnophobe that came across it, and possibly a couple from people who it wouldn't effect, but decided to sign it for the people it would. This whole backlash of it being ridiculous (from people this doesn't even effect) is very narrow-minded and thoughtless. I'm a bit disappointed, but what did I expect from PALGN I guess. Bunch of jerks.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Ok see, no one was attacking you personly, we just think the idea of it is insane. If you can't seperate that from us 'being jerks' then I think you need to seriously reconsider how you interact with people online.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say only a small percentage of that "36.4 per cent" would be so scared of spiders that they'd actively stop playing the game. There's varying levels of arachnophobia.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'll be honest, there were a few occasions in Skyrim where I had to stop playing for a short while due to a spider. Usually the large ones that come down from the ceilings of dungeons got me.
And yes, I am somewhat arachnophobic.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ThunderCurls wrote: | | You guys are jerks because I made a silly and unrealistic petition, jerks. On the subject of spiders, **** Huntsmans... **** THEM! If there is a huntsman on the roof I will not go into or walk under that part of the room ever until it is there no longer. |
Speaking of huntsmans, if you want to see something really funny, next time you find one, give it a quick spray of flyspray (enough so it just makes them a little bit sick, not dead) and watch what happens. Works better if they're on the floor.
On topic: I think I'm ready to continue my game. I lost all Winterhold mission progress, but I'll just concentrate on everything else for a while (as drinniol suggested).
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ThunderCurls wrote: | | **** Huntsmans... **** THEM! |
They scare the shit out of me. I can handle spiders as long as I know they're harmless and don't grow to ridiculous sizes like the huntsmans.
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| fatpizza wrote: | | Sooo. I 'finished' it last night as in got all trophies except the Oblivion Walker one... I started a new game as a Khajit with a sword and magic hand and it actually feels quite fresh starting all over again. |
Sooo.... I finally completed all the Daedric quests again and got the Oblivion Walker trophy.. and the platinum.
Now I'm never going to play this game again. I've played it so much I now hate it.
I'm not blaming the game of course, it's obviously my fault for just playing it too much.
The only way I'll ever touch it again is if the DLC turns out to be as good as the Shivering Isles was for ES4.
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| fatpizza wrote: | | Now I'm never going to play this game again. I've played it so much I now hate it. |
I felt that way from the beginning. It's great in short one hour bursts and that's about it for me. After playing Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas to death, the gameplay is just too samey. Skyrim is definitely the best game out of the lot but I get sick of exploring dungeons, picking locks, killing bandits and picking up loot all the time.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Furianshi wrote: | next time you find one, give it a quick spray of flyspray (enough so it just makes them a little bit sick, not dead) and watch what happens. Works better if they're on the floor.
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OH! I love making sure innocent animals get a slow and painfull death!
That's uh... kind of sick and fucked up man...
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| Frozencry wrote: | | If there's a petition I'd sign, it'd be the one that'd allow minor modding to Skyrim on consoles in general so that people can fix/alter numerous things, much like how UT3 was on the PS3. But yeah I wouldn't be signing something to do about people being afraid of spiders and in a video game of all things. |
What I'd like to see them do is allow for select mods to be added to PSN. Ones that clearly are worth downloading based on the reaction the community has for them etc. I have the PC version so it doesn't matter to me but if I had the PS3 version (or X360 for that matter), I'd love to be able to get some of the mods.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| light487 wrote: | | Frozencry wrote: | | If there's a petition I'd sign, it'd be the one that'd allow minor modding to Skyrim on consoles in general so that people can fix/alter numerous things, much like how UT3 was on the PS3. But yeah I wouldn't be signing something to do about people being afraid of spiders and in a video game of all things. |
What I'd like to see them do is allow for select mods to be added to PSN. Ones that clearly are worth downloading based on the reaction the community has for them etc. I have the PC version so it doesn't matter to me but if I had the PS3 version (or X360 for that matter), I'd love to be able to get some of the mods. |
I'm not sure how it is with skyrim but after seeing the mods for Dragon Age I kind of gave up on following mods.
Seriously like every second mod for that game was "Add a dick to ogres" "Add a dick to lust demons" "Add a dick to your dog" "What kind of dick do you want Alistair to have" I am not making any of those up
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:39 am Post subject: |
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The Skyrim modding community is a lot better than that. There's hi-res textures, improved water, improved performance, multiplayer, improved character models, things like swearing mud crabs, improved menus, new recipes, spells and items. From the looks of it, you can massively improve/change the game, and that's without the proper modding tools released, I'm pretty sure.
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Yeah the toolkit hasn't even been released yet and there's already a metric ****tonne of awesome stuff. I've got like 400mb worth of mods sitting in a folder.
the TES modding community is one of the best out there, and it's evident considering they released an entirely new main quest and area for Oblivion.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| light487 wrote: | | Frozencry wrote: | | If there's a petition I'd sign, it'd be the one that'd allow minor modding to Skyrim on consoles in general so that people can fix/alter numerous things, much like how UT3 was on the PS3. But yeah I wouldn't be signing something to do about people being afraid of spiders and in a video game of all things. |
What I'd like to see them do is allow for select mods to be added to PSN. Ones that clearly are worth downloading based on the reaction the community has for them etc. I have the PC version so it doesn't matter to me but if I had the PS3 version (or X360 for that matter), I'd love to be able to get some of the mods. |
Todd Howard reckons it's a really easy process, porting community mods over (he was talking about 360 specifically). He also said that they'd really like to do it, so hopefully it's still a possibility.
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Some kind of DLC compilation would be pretty sweet, with a bunch of mods you could turn on/off in the menu somewhere. |
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| Pagan's Mind wrote: | | They scare the **** out of me. I can handle spiders as long as I know they're harmless and don't grow to ridiculous sizes like the huntsmans. |
If it makes you feel any better, Huntsmen are really just the big docile puppy dogs of the spider world. They really won't go out of their way to harm you unless you really give them good reason to, and their poison is harmless to humans anyway.
In fact, the only scary thing about a huntsman is its size. I'm actually less scared of huntsmen than I am of other, smaller spiders (redbacks, white-tails and those black spiders you get occasionally).
That said, I don't think I'd ever want to be in the same room as a goliath bird-eating spider.. (Seriously don't click that link if you are arachnophobic.)
Despite my phobia, I actually really love spiders. They are awesome creatures.
Anyway, back to Skyrim...
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| StorminNorman wrote: | | If it makes you feel any better, Huntsmen are really just the big docile puppy dogs of the spider world. |
Very true. Unless you squirt flyspray in their direction, which is like giving them a shot of adrenalin and saying 'come at me bro!'
| StorminNorman wrote: | | Anyway, back to Skyrim... |
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Fly spray has permethrin in it which is basically nerve gas for insects. It makes their muscles and nervous system spaz out uncontrollably so you're effectively torturing the huntsman because it's losing control of its entire body, eventually leading to some of its organs potentially exploding.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunderpube wrote: | | Or they're silently screaming and fighting for their life... |
 As Benza would no doubt say if this were reversed: What's next, do you want people to stop buying household fucking insecticides for murdering flies and cockroaches? Should we walk on the fucking blades of our feet everywhere to avoid stepping on too many innocent fucking ants?
| Frozencry wrote: | | Fly spray has permethrin in it which is basically nerve gas for insects. It makes their muscles and nervous system spaz out uncontrollably so you're effectively torturing the huntsman because it's losing control of its entire body, eventually leading to some of its organs potentially exploding. |
I can tell you from experience, that if you give a huntsman a quick squirt of flyspray, it will merely become super-pissed with you and run... no, repeatedly pounce, at a very rapid rate across the floor at you. It is quite a scary thing, even for a non-arachnophobe. If you just use a quick squirt, it won't blow up, it probably won't even die. It might get sick though I guess. You could take it to a vet if you're worried.
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| Furianshi wrote: | | Thunderpube wrote: | | Or they're silently screaming and fighting for their life... |
As Benza would no doubt say if this were reversed: What's next, do you want people to stop buying household **** insecticides for murdering flies and cockroaches? Should we walk on the **** blades of our feet everywhere to avoid stepping on too many innocent **** ants?
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Actually I'd say stop being a sick fuck that gets off on hurting animals. If you need to kill it do it quickly and painlessly.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Benza wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: | | Thunderpube wrote: | | Or they're silently screaming and fighting for their life... |
As Benza would no doubt say if this were reversed: What's next, do you want people to stop buying household **** insecticides for murdering flies and cockroaches? Should we walk on the **** blades of our feet everywhere to avoid stepping on too many innocent **** ants?
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Actually I'd say stop being a sick **** that gets off on hurting animals. If you need to kill it do it quickly and painlessly. |
You're not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, are you mate.
| Furianshi wrote: | | As Benza would no doubt say if this were reversed |
And wtf do you really know about me? Someone 'that gets off on hurting animals'? Why, because I squirted some flyspray on a spider once? I love animals dude.
Furthermore, it's debatable whether or not insects and arachnids feel pain like we do. We experience what we know as pain because it's our bodies teaching us what not to do. Insects and arachnids go only by instinct, they are pre-programmed. I watched a documentary on ants recently and it showed leaf-cutter ants, continuing on with their jobs, chewing away at the grass blades as they are burned to death by a bushfire.
I like spiders. But, man... they're just spiders. If I want to potentially sacrifice one so I can imagine Thunderpants squealing like a little girl, I don't really see it as a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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^ Keep your fantasies to yourself buddy.
Look, I'm surprised a moderator hasn't shut this conversation down already. Maybe they enjoy seeing you pair of trolls getting a bit of your own medicine. The fact is, I treat everyone with respect and common courtesy. If I don't get treated in a similar fashion, then I will re-assess the way I behave towards that person.
If that makes me a knob, then so be it I guess.
Now please. For the love of god. STFU and let the people continue with the Skyrim discussion.
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