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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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since they prioritise open world gameplay over characters/story.


what?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Luckily 13 was much better contrary to critic opinions since they prioritise open world gameplay over characters/story.


Ehh, I actually thought the FF13 reviews were pretty generous, since the characters and story in 13 weren't all that great imo. I don't think 12 had great characters either, but at least they were tolerable. 13 had way too many obnoxious characters that I disliked.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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12 had the worse story in a FF game to date. I loved 13's story.
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12 had the worse story in a FF game to date.


Have you played 5?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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13's story was pretty good. Not spectacular, but good. I only liked Lightning and Sazh though.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think 13's characters were some of the strongest in the series.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I liked all of the characters in 13 except for Sazh.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I liked all of the characters in 13 except for Sazh.


And Hope icon_razz.gif.
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Priscilla wrote:
I liked all of the characters in 13 except for Sazh.


And Hope icon_razz.gif.


I forgot about Hope xD;

Though I think I liked him 0.01% more than Sazh.
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Yeah, I could, since all the FF12 party was dull and had poor character development.


As if this isn't the coolest mother **** to show up in a FF game in years


I was waiting for you to bring him up. Given Balthier's background, he was supposed to the cool character, but he just never got up there in the game and was flat for most of it.

FF13 was interesting for character development. Because the main storyline was traveling like a bullet, the character development had a lot of pacing problems.

Snow was easily the worst character for me. I couldn't stand the way he behaved most of the time. Sazh was really good for that one critical moment, but then was mostly irrelevant for the rest of the game. Hope wasn't all that great, but he could have been a lot worse (*cough* Snow *cough*). Vanille and Fang could have been so much better, but because of their background and story pacing, they were almost skeleton characters. Lightning was a decent character.
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I like Tetsuya Nomura's character designs but he really needs to drop the Sora/Neku/Hope type characters.
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Priscilla wrote:
I liked all of the characters in 13 except for Sazh.


And Hope icon_razz.gif.


I forgot about Hope xD;

Though I think I liked him 0.01% more than Sazh.
Most people hated the voice acting of Vanille icon_razz.gif (my observation).
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Priscilla wrote:
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Priscilla wrote:
I liked all of the characters in 13 except for Sazh.


And Hope icon_razz.gif.


I forgot about Hope xD;

Though I think I liked him 0.01% more than Sazh.
Most people hated the voice acting of Vanille icon_razz.gif (my observation).


I didn't mind her voice acting. I've heard worse.
The only thing that left me mentally scarred was hearing her really enjoy summoning Hecatoncheir icon_sad.gif
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Fang was the one they ruined with the voice acting. Vanile sounded bad, but Fang was just hilariously bad.

You feel like she's about to bust out with "OI VANEEEL! WHY DONT CHA STOP BEIN SUCH A CUNT AY?!"
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I think we can all agree on one thing. Sqaure-Enix is not a premier developer anymore. Long gone of the days where they make guranteed AAA+ games.
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I think we can all agree on one thing. Sqaure-Enix is not a premier developer anymore. Long gone of the days where they make guranteed AAA+ games.


God that's as true as it is depressing icon_sad.gif
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I think we can all agree on one thing. Sqaure-Enix is not a premier developer anymore. Long gone of the days where they make guranteed AAA+ games.


Gonna disagree with you. Square never had that in the first place.
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Xenogears and Chrono Cross.............
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^Which never got released here! icon_sad.gif (I loved Xenogears though, annoying when no one else around me knows about it).

For me, Square Enix lost their awesome title when I bought Unlimited Saga just for the FFX-2 (I'm a sucker of FF series!) Prologue video and played Unlimited Saga. It doesn't stop me from getting the FF series though, even though there may be better RPG titles from the East out there, I am still a slave to playing anything FF.
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Unlimited Saga was quite bad except for the art and music =) A Mario Party type of JRPG just doesn't work.
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I thought Unlimited SaGa was pretty decent. Better than SaGa Frontier 2 at any rate. It takes a while to get over the randomness of it all, but I had fun with it. Definitely not a game I'd recommend to anyone though icon_razz.gif The SaGa games are designed with replayability in mind, which is great and separates them from most Square titles (but who has time to play RPGs through multiple times anymore?).
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I liked Hope in the end, mainly because he was a powerful character to use.

Benza wrote:
Fang was the one they ruined with the voice acting. Vanile sounded bad, but Fang was just hilariously bad.

You feel like she's about to bust out with "OI VANEEEL! WHY DONT CHA STOP BEIN SUCH A **** AY?!"


icon_lol.gif Was the voice actor outback Australian or something? I had a feeling the developer wanted to make people believe that normal people lived on cocoon, and down on the infested land of Pulse..was Australians lol
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^I'm pretty sure that's what they were going for, I've always thought so icon_smile.gif

Pulse = Australia. Makes sense!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McsWKczU6wc#t=1m17s

PS: I loved Fang in general. Her awesome voice, legs, character.... lesbian undertones. Made her my party leader as soon I got her.


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icon_lol.gif Was the voice actor outback Australian or something? I had a feeling the developer wanted to make people believe that normal people lived on cocoon, and down on the infested land of Pulse..was Australians lol


Nope voice actor was a yank putting on a fucking terrible aussie accent.
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12 had the worse story in a FF game to date. I loved 13's story.


what story??
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