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Nah, to be honest the best way to govern is autonomously, democracy just screws everyone over with constant compromise.
We need a powerful yet benevolent Necromancer to seize power in a bloodless coup. Taxes would be reduced to 1 soul per person per year, and there would never be drought.
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| döppelgangbang wrote: | | Being an ex churchy - having thrown out my belief system - I'm not really down on the whole marriage thing anyway. I believe in equality, and civil union. But marraige!? I don't understand why gays want in on that hetero religious bullsh! |
Because marriage isn't religious to everyone. I don't believe marriage even originated from religion. Plenty of heterosexual couples don't get married for religious reasons anyway. I'm an athiest lesbian and I'd like to get married someday because its a celebration of the love between me and my future partner, and a way of showing commitment to each other, plus... having a big party and looking pretty and having a bunch of people being jealous of us. THATS what marriage is all about  Just kidding of course, only the first two, mostly.
These are exactly the same reasons plenty of straight people get married. Or should I say, these are exactly the same reasons straight women nudge men into eventually giving up and proposing to them 
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| Cyph wrote: | | 30% is what I read, so it depends what they are currently on. Gillard will be on $470k. |
This is more than the US President.
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| grim-one wrote: | | Cyph wrote: | | 30% is what I read, so it depends what they are currently on. Gillard will be on $470k. |
This is more than the US President. |
Come work for us Obama we'll pay you more.
Also, I would guess that the average australian earns significantly more than the average american.
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Because marriage isn't religious to everyone. I don't believe marriage even originated from religion. |
I think he's saying marriage full stop is bull shit, weather it be between a man and woman, man and man, man and donkey, woman and minky whale, horse and dog, woman and horse/dog offspring man and.... I'll stop here cause I have a lot more to go.
Atleast that's the way I took it.
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In your subjective opinion.
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For me the crux of the issue is equality. It doesn't matter what it is (marriage, voting, kick flips) everyone should have the option regardless of what they are or what they believe.
The anti discrimination act actually lists sexual preference as something that you cannot discriminate against. Although apparently the federal government is not aware of this.
also benz, +'s for minky whale marriage rights.
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| PixieGirl wrote: | | In your subjective opinion. |
Oh nah, not mine, I'm all for marriage, that was just the way I read dopples post.
Honestly I'm constantly shocked that gay marriage is even still something that's discussed. It's just so obviously something that should happen and be allowed it amazes me that it's still a contentious issue.
| Quote: | | also benz, +'s for minky whale marriage rights. |
They so often get forgotten in these discussions.
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So you're telling me you don't want to be part of this? Or grow a moustache like those guys?
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| PixieGirl wrote: | | döppelgangbang wrote: | | Being an ex churchy - having thrown out my belief system - I'm not really down on the whole marriage thing anyway. I believe in equality, and civil union. But marraige!? I don't understand why gays want in on that hetero religious bullsh! |
Because marriage isn't religious to everyone. I don't believe marriage even originated from religion. Plenty of heterosexual couples don't get married for religious reasons anyway. I'm an athiest lesbian and I'd like to get married someday because its a celebration of the love between me and my future partner, and a way of showing commitment to each other, plus... having a big party and looking pretty and having a bunch of people being jealous of us. THATS what marriage is all about Just kidding of course, only the first two, mostly.
These are exactly the same reasons plenty of straight people get married. Or should I say, these are exactly the same reasons straight women nudge men into eventually giving up and proposing to them |
Personally, both side of the debate is just as bad as each other. Blaming religious group isn't helping while religious groups that oppose it isn't being "up with the times", as in common marriage these days essentially is a legal binding with no invisible religious bond. Religious people still believes in marriage being beyond a legal thing and this is where the conflict exists.
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| Appel wrote: | | The Challenger Deep image |
Benza linked to this a couple days ago, awesome chart. Richard Branson is all over it, he's gonna try to get down there (or get someone else down there, I should say) and find a way to sell expeditions to the bottom of the ocean to people.
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| jprockbelly wrote: | | Also, I would guess that the average australian earns significantly more than the average american. |
Fun fact: A person living on Newstart Allowance earns more than a US minimum-wage worker.
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| Island_Wolf wrote: | Not going to argue the schematic of the word marriage but it has strong ties with religion, especially the Judaism beliefs. The concept of marriage is to bond in the eyes of the Lord and be stuck with a partner for life.
Personally, both side of the debate is just as bad as each other. Blaming religious group isn't helping while religious groups that oppose it isn't being "up with the times", as in common marriage these days essentially is a legal binding with no invisible religious bond. Religious people still believes in marriage being beyond a legal thing and this is where the conflict exists. |
There is no evidence to suggest that marriage stems from religious groups, yes it has strong ties now, but it hasn't necessarily always, and different cultures have had their own different versions of marriage which have been so numerous and diverse thats its unfair religions can just take it and claim it as theirs. According to wikipedia (oh please, its reliable enough) marriage pre-dates recorded history.
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If its not in Wiki then it doesn't exist! (like me )
But the current issue is they have, especially given Australia used to be a strong Christian nation. I know many Christians who didn't care but once they read an anti-Christian message, they will get defensive, which they have the right to. Christians are just known to be more vocal being the dominate religious group (Christianity had Judaism roots).
Two side are picking on each other and blaming each other for picking on each other, things are not getting done this way, Gay marriage is one of them. I read from both Atheist and Christians where they reckon they are being picked on more by each other, both is true. I'm pretty certain if both side decided to start a dialogue, this thing will get sorted, just like many other social issues we have in life. Some Anglican church allows Gay bishop, this is proof not all Christian is against homosexuality and probably Gay marriage as well.
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I don't see marriage as a religious thing at all. And dare I say, I think in the public eye nowadays, it isn't so much a religious ceremony as it is the life long bonding of two people.
Human beings are a species that tend to mate for life, like many other species. And nowadays, marriage is the public recognition of this bond.
Ideally, a new type of official marriage needs to be interwoven into society, one that has the benefits of of marriage (on a social and political level) with out all the bull shit of religion.
Well, thats what I think at least. When I get married, it won't have anything to do with religion, it will be for personal beliefs.
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If gay marriage is illegal what does this actually mean? You just cant get a piece of paper from the Government saying you are married?
I'm sure the police wont come to the wedding and arrest the couple? I hope not.
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It is more of an equality issue, where the main problem is that gays should have the same equal rights as non-gays do.
Personally, I wish people weren't so sensitive about the issue. Yes it's your right to marry, but if you have to wait for it, just wait. You don't need to marry someone to love them, it's like people think marrying someone is the only way to have a lifelong relationship or something.
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my view is de-legalise "marriage" as its the connection of that ceremony with the church that is the main hang-up. Have a govt. recognised "union" document and leave the marriage/hand-fasting/weddings to whatever group/church/faction you align yourself with...
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Video games animator Aung Zaw Oo, AKA AZO, has released the 2011 edition of his stunts and tricks showreel, demonstrating once again how awesomely multi-talented he is.
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| Appel wrote: | | Human beings are a species that tend to mate for life, like many other species. |
[citation needed]
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