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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Me too, I have a large book collection now in my home in Whirerun lol

Hm I just noticed an ordinary Steel Sword has now become a Quest Item in my inventory and I can't get rid of it o_O is that a bug or some quest i've picked up somewhere and forgotten about?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's likely a quest item based around something you need to discover. Thankfully quest items don't actually put more weight on your load, even if they do have weight properties.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So I leveld up my smithing so I can smith advanced armour/weapons but didn't get any new items to be able to smith? What's the deal?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe use a perk?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anyone know if there's a way to change the orientation of items when you're "holding" them with the e key? I'm finding it difficult to decorate my house.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anyone know if there's a way to change the orientation of items when you're "holding" them with the e key? I'm finding it difficult to decorate my house.


To extend this question, does anyone know if console gamers (Xbox 360 and PS3) of Skyrim can pick up and hold and move items?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To extend this question, does anyone know if console gamers (Xbox 360 and PS3) of Skyrim can pick up and hold and move items?


Yes, for Xbox hold A while looking at the object.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So tell me, Oblivion vs Skyrim? Much better of more of the same?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Skyrim is the game Oblivion tried desperately to be. Plain and simple.

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Skyrim is masterful. It topples Morrowind as far as I'm concerned and is brilliant in its own right.

Oblivion was a turdbeast. This is a glorious, golden child.
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I'm still waiting for my OzGameshop copy but I was wondering.. should I also fork out some cash to get an XBox 360 controller for this game "on PC"? One of the big beefs I am seeing "haters" of the game going on about if the controls and UI being a clumsy port..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just use the keyboard to navigate most of the menus rather than the mouse and you'll be fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm still waiting for my OzGameshop copy but I was wondering.. should I also fork out some cash to get an XBox 360 controller for this game "on PC"? One of the big beefs I am seeing "haters" of the game going on about if the controls and UI being a clumsy port..


There's plenty of programs out there that'll let you use your PS3 controller.

But I'm with Pixie, going through the menu with the keyboard (wasd) is fine for me.
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I'm still waiting for my OzGameshop copy but I was wondering.. should I also fork out some cash to get an XBox 360 controller for this game "on PC"? One of the big beefs I am seeing "haters" of the game going on about if the controls and UI being a clumsy port..


The UI is no worse than a lot of other PC RPGs I've seen. Sure it takes a little getting used to (make sure you "favourite" commonly-used items so they can be quickly accessed with the 'q' key), but I'm in no way tempted to switch to my 360 controller. The extra freedom of movement with the mouse is useful when aiming spells or in close combat.
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Ok thanks.. I think there will be haters no matter what but that was the one thing both the negative and mixed reviews were saying on Metacritic.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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UI failure; hovering the mouse over something, selecting it but then realising the GUI doesn't mouse-over highlight items...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm still waiting for my OzGameshop copy but I was wondering.. should I also fork out some cash to get an XBox 360 controller for this game "on PC"? One of the big beefs I am seeing "haters" of the game going on about if the controls and UI being a clumsy port..


Mate, check out the MotionJoy software, it'll let you use your ps3 controller on the PC. It's my choice for playing Skyrim, can't stand the keyboard.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm still waiting for my OzGameshop copy but I was wondering.. should I also fork out some cash to get an XBox 360 controller for this game "on PC"? One of the big beefs I am seeing "haters" of the game going on about if the controls and UI being a clumsy port..


Mate, check out the MotionJoy software, it'll let you use your ps3 controller on the PC. It's my choice for playing Skyrim, can't stand the keyboard.


Oh right.. didn't know you could use that.. I have a Logitech Gamepad but it doesn't have the triggers etc Will check it out..
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So tell me, Oblivion vs Skyrim? Much better of more of the same?

Improvements over Oblivion:

  • Dragons (each opening the way to a new ability), instead of oblivion gates.
  • Noticeably better graphics - improved npc's, weather and lighting etc. More detailed and realistic looking environments - Skyrim has less of a randomly-generated feel.
  • 3rd-person view no longer shows your character sliding around like they're on ice.
  • Dual-wield a combination of single-handed weapons, shields or spells. It's fun to mix it up depending on the situation.
  • Enemy level is mostly determined by the area in which you encounter the enemies. Certain areas and enemies are impossibly difficult for low-leveled characters. Wait 'til you come across your first bear...
  • Perks make leveling up a lot more interesting.
  • Armour/weapon smithing, which goes waaay beyond the simplistic 'use the hammer to repair your item' of Oblivion. With the right materials, you can forge weapons and armor. As your proficiency rises, you can upgrade your favourite stuff. Bethesda have decided to do away with gear degrading with use, so you no longer need to repair anything or worry about stuff breaking.
  • Going by imdb, the voice actor roster has more than tripled since Oblivion.


Other comparisons:

  • The map is now kind of like a 3d, isometric view, instead of the paper style map from Oblivion.
  • Horse riding is just as useless as it was in oblivion, except now you're stuck with 3rd-person view while mounted (on console anyway).
  • No pants in Skyrim. The pants have been combined with tops/armor.


There's no doubt a heap of other subtle and not so subtle changes. And Skyrim really does have a nice Morrowind feel. I attribute that mostly to the enemy leveling and the music by Jeremy Soule, which seems to be a return to the style used in Morrowind. There might even be a few tunes from Morrowind in there, a lot of it sounds very familiar to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Going by imdb, the voice actor roster has more than tripled since Oblivion.


Nine people instead of three people isn't really a huge jump, though. icon_razz.gif

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The map is now kind of like a 3d, isometric view, instead of the paper style map from Oblivion.


The map actually bugs me a bit, as it doesn't give enough information about roads and paths through Skyrim. There's even bridges that it fails to show.

It's pretty to look at, but it could do with another zoom level or two to get some of the information I want from it across.

One thing that bugs me a little is that the enchanting interface gives no indication of whether or not an item is equipped. I accidentally disenchanted a robe I was wearing last night because of this.
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you forgot the biggest improvement, completly overhauled menu system wich is now no longer a complete cluster fuck of confusion and retardedness.
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I think I should start the main quest instead of doing side quests.

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Hrmmm, urge to buy growing.....
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you forgot the biggest improvement, completly overhauled menu system wich is now no longer a complete cluster **** of confusion and retardedness.


You do realise the number 1 complaint about Skyrim is how horrible its menu system is, right?

Oblivion's menus weren't great, although there were mods (ie Beidermod) that made them a lot more usable.
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