Saints Row: The Third

fatpizza · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:35 pm�� Post subject:

After seeing the latest trailer I may get this for the coop. What I may do, is trade in my pretty-much unused copy of Dead Island PS3 in to JB to get MW3 for nothing, and then trade mw3 to game or eb to get my money back(or even make a profit, since dead island only cost me $59). I'd then use that cash to buy Saints Row 3.
Me and my mate just coudn't get Dead Island working in coop, and we're so over trying to get it working this sounds like a great idea.

So anyway, the campaign in this game is fully playable in coop correct?
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Benza · Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:50 pm�� Post subject:

yeah full co-op. Online only though no split screen.
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Emilbus · Status: Offline Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 87 $poons: 18.80

Pre-ordered this from Greenman Gaming for $34 since it's a Steamwork game. With this and Skyrim, looks like AC: Revelation will have to wait. Damn first world problem!
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Soap of Death · Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:02 pm�� Post subject:

I hear you with that first world problem. I'm undecided as to whether I'll play AC:R or SR3 first, I've already got both pre-ordered and am really looking forward to both.

I'm hoping at least one breaks the street date, it'll make the decision for me.
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emech · Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:07 pm�� Post subject:

so good game review is 8/10 and its fun. But they do raise legimate concerns abouts its it content. I'm all for 18 ratings but do we really need this in our games?

"BAJO

All in all I didn't have a problem with any of the content here except in the human trafficking mission... you can open a bunch of crates looking for 'hoes' to which you can then keep as your own hoes for long term income, or sell back for a quick cash reward. On the boat where they're kept, you'll find all sorts of contraptions such as 'fisting machines'... and that crossed the line for me.

HEX

I'm so torn with this one Bajo, I almost feel hypocritical because some parts I was absolutely fine with, but other parts I just found abhorrent. I don't want be a prude, but the sexual and degrading elements of the game took it way too far and put a dampener on my experience. I mean, what's next? Violence against children? Would that be okay in a game like this, because it's not meant to be taken seriously so it just gets a free pass?"
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Gamesta · Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:11 pm�� Post subject:

Meh it's a game.Almost nothing is too far for me.Though child killing that he pointed out would one of the few things I would consider too far.

As for feeling like a hypcrite, honestly everyone is a hypcrite every now and then.See my point in how I wouldn't like killing kids is hypocritical.But that's the way it is and it's not gonna bother me.
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Benza · Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:39 pm�� Post subject:

That's fucking moronic.

There is no line that games shouldn't be able to cross. To imply there is, is just stupid.

If you don't approve of the content then don't get it.

Seriously one of the more heavily advertised elements of the game is a giant motorised dildo weapon. If you see that you know what kind of game you're getting into. The game takes a refuge in audacity of being the most horific wrong stuff possible. To think that it should draw the line then at what's too wrong just doesn't make any sense.
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Frozencry · Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:47 pm�� Post subject:

LET'S CRITICISE A GAME BASED ON OUR PERSONAL MORALS RATHER THAN GENUINE ISSUES WITH MECHANICS OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT.

Moronic. It's like rating Passion of the Christ low because you get upset when Jesus gets nailed.
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G3ck0 · Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:50 pm�� Post subject:

So the pre-order DLC, is that going to be available to everyone? I'll probably just end up pre-ordering anyway, but best to check just in case.

killjoy83 · Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:50 pm�� Post subject:

The twisted minds of Tim & Eric bring you a live-action Professor Genki show.

I've never been much of a fan of Tim & Eric's sense of humour, but i did like the two commercials from the above video. Here they are by themselves.

Soap of Death · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:38 am�� Post subject:

Saints Row 4 already in development, will be 'wilder' than SR3. Source

The third game is not out for another six days. I hate the idea of announcing a sequel to a game that isn't even out yet. While I think it's fairly obvious a sequel would be in the works, hearing about it now is just stupid.
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Nietzsche · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:40 am�� Post subject:

I think 100% we should take our own personal morals into consideration when critiquing something. It would be like watching a movie which is racist against a people but saying that movie is still well made and giving it a good score. At the end of the day our tastes are not solely based on objective reasoning especially when it comes to art. I'm really upset that game reviewers think it is wrong to criticize something that is "good" when it affronts their sensibilities or they dislike it based on thematic reasoning.

Reviewers should have the ability to say something is bad if they "subjectively" dislike it but it seems like that is impossible in this age where every triple A game gets above a 8 and the most a reviewer goes into themes, plot or atmosphere is whether it is well done and not whether they enjoyed it or found it interesting.

Frozencry · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:49 am�� Post subject:

So you're saying that American History X is a poor film because it not only is blatantly racist towards black people, but doesn't suit your moral taste? Sure, the film shows a journey of a man who's also changed his values, but it's extremely shocking and full on nonetheless.

It's okay to not like a film or not like the themes behind a video game, but to rate it lower because it's not within your moral tastes is IMO wrong. I don't think it'd be very professional or a true view into a game if it's blatantly racist and the reviewer just happens to be black and offended by it. It's a skewered perspective and not taking into account what the film might be trying to portray, or what a game is intending to do.

If games want to actually become a wider medium and not be seen as an immature industry that's just for kids, we need to get rid of things such as rating a game low because it's in bad moral taste. Games are not just for kids and toilet humor should be able to co-exist with other forms.
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Nietzsche · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:19 am�� Post subject:

Firstly American History X is a bad example because it doesn't glorify racism it absolutely destroys it. I was thinking more like the Censored Eleven or rapeplay.

PixieGirl · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:31 am�� Post subject:

I prefer when reviewers try to be as objective as possible and basically tell me what the games content entails in a way that I can work out if I might like it or not while reading it. That's what a review is to me, its information to take in about a finished product that I can read and try to figure out if the points the reviewer raises would personally bother me. That's why I don't care about looking at reviews scores.

I want to read facts on a game, eg. it's a fact that the controls are dodgy and unpolished, its a fact that the graphics are technically beautiful, its a fact that the story is refined and deep. Theres only so far you can go with that because there are people who would still directly disagree with all these points, but I think reviewers should strive to be as objective as possible and I personally don't care in the slightest if a reviewer was offended by something. I don't want to hear that, its of no relevance to me. I would however like to read details on something that may possibly be offensive to some players because then I can read what the details are and decide if I personally would find it offensive or not.

Edit: I don't know why I'm posting in this thread because I don't care about this game

Damn posting addiction!

Frozencry · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:47 am�� Post subject:

Nietzsche · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:16 am�� Post subject:

I've mostly come around. I basically read reviews the same as Pixie does.

Where most of my frustration came from was your comment was

Benza · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:38 am�� Post subject:

See I don't give a shit what they rate it or how they review it.

My problem is that they're talking like their is a line in the sand that games aren't allowed to cross. Which is fucking ridiculous. We have gone through so much to get games taken seriously to the point were we can have an R18 rating and then have two of the most public gaming reviewers in the country going "Well shit, maybe games shouldn't be allowed to do this cause they're games"

That's fucked up.
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GooberMan · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:48 am�� Post subject:

Why are we even taking Good Game reviews seriously? They're about as notable as when SBS tried to continue The Movie Show after Marg and Dave left.

(Mind you, I agree with the sentiment here, I read their comments and wanted to play the game more and trololol along with Volition)

But speaking of The Movie Show, as a whole, I find game journalism to be a crock of shit. Mostly, it's just worried about going through the motions such as discussing the features and then trying to be objective at the end of it so that it can be representative of the website/magazine that's publishing them. Blergh. You know what's great about movie, music, and book reviews? There's a million people reviewing them subjectively. They all have their own tastes and their own opinions, and at the end of the day they say them and get published. And then I find a bunch of reviewers that suit my tastes and listen to what they have to say.

Hell, I'd much rather read the Denny review site than PALGN reviews. Sorry, exodusing staff, but the name up the top of the article generally dictates whether I'll quickly scroll through it or take the time to read it.

Getting an R18 rating really is the first step. There's still a long way to go for games to be on the same playing field as other types of media. The sooner that idiots like Bajo and Hex are relegated to such respectable publications as the Daily Telegraph, the better.
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Nietzsche · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:15 am�� Post subject:

The thing about Bajo and Hex though is I think it's great that people who don't pay attention to things like game reviews have a chance to see them especially kids. If a kid picks up Skyrim instead of CoD again cause they watch Bajo and Hex I can forgive them as I don't watch their reviews or take their reviews seriously.

ManeKast · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:36 am�� Post subject:

Good Game has its place, being the gamer I am and I know you all are thats shows not really targeted at us. My GF loves it cause shes got a crush on Bajo.

SR3: I look forward to a time when the whole population is evolved and mature enough to monitor minors but also treat adults as adults, and, make their own decisions on content without trying to block it from others (something religion has instigated, and I despise, faith is fine but censoring other adults is not).

See I think being able to kill children would be hilarious, no I am not evil and yes theres kids in my family. I just have black humor. Im the one who laughs in the cinema when (guy hits propeller in titanic, or, way too serious movie about school massacres hits the climax) and sometimes people think I am evil. I am not, but to have somebody else score down a review (say, antichrist or saints row 3) because of their religion (unless were in the same boat, Im not religious tho) or what they think is appropriate or not. Storytelling mechanics, game mechanics, presentation, graphics, immersion and depth are all scoreable but what you actually do is purely objective. My 2cents.
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Frozencry · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:19 pm�� Post subject:

Killing children would be fucking awesome. It'll give a good dose of PTSD, but also finally allow me to hopefully football kick a child over a field.
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fatpizza · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:09 pm�� Post subject:

The closest thing to killing children in a game was killing the Adoring fan in oblivion... And that was hilarious, plus it gives me an excuse to post this video...

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GooberMan · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:22 pm�� Post subject:

I'd pay for a game where you could travel back through time to various events in Tingle's life and kill him. Including as a foetus in the womb.

...too far?
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emech · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:44 pm�� Post subject:

First - let me repeat it got 8/10 on good game. They said it was fun and they liked it. They did not "rate it down" due to moral choices (the full review is on their site)

Second (and neg away if you must) - Wow, just wow. I would think that part of the argument for an 18+ rating is that the industry has "grown up" and can be self-regulating. Yet certainly the user consensus here seems to be - its a game, anything goes. Even R 18+ rated films have limits (moving to X and beyond) and I do feel that there are some quite obvious things were "entertainment" should not go. Several seem to endorese child killing as OK. where is your line? Child sexual assualt????

and to clarify (cause im sure it may be missed) - I support an 18+ rating. (much better then shoe-horning this stuff into ma15+)
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