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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:22 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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The rat pack in the Depths was my old farming spot, but I felt like it was too slow and wanted a change of scenery. So off I go into the deep dark that is the Tomb of the Giants.

Still haven't given my embers to any of the blacksmiths. I don't trust the first one encountered in the Undead Parish, but I doubt that I need any divine weapons to finish the game, considering how hard my spells hit for at the moment.

Wish there was a better way of getting to the Demon Ruins. It's my best farming spot currently, but I loathe going through Blighttown. Speaking of which, I totally forgot I found the Hollow Tree but didn't explore further. Another thing to do before I go off to Sen's Fortress.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:30 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hrmm... Interesting. I know nothing of these Demon Ruins. I'm currently kind of farming the Valley of Drakes. 500souls each kill? How much is Demon Ruins giving? I'm currently level 40 with pretty average stats. I think I spread my points out too much. :S
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:49 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Demon Ruins give you 800 for pretty easy kills, much better than taking on Drakes. You will need to defeat Ceaseless Discharge first, disappointingly easy boss battle. (When you know what to do)

I've barely farmed yet, only when I'm a little under what I need to spend. I was being careless and managed to lose 18000 souls for good yesterday haha. Level 64 now.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:54 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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18,000 eh?

I was invaded twice tonight in the catacombs. Lost 6 humanity, 45,000 souls and died another 4-5 times.

Then my world became cursed by a Gravelord servant.

Nightmare of a night. NG+ catacombs are brutal. Thankfully I did get where I wanted to be though and am now spreading misery into people's worlds as a gravelord.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:56 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ohhh! Demon Ruins! Where I rang the 2nd bell... I totally forgot about that place. I'll probably go there now. I just finished killing the Stray Demon at the Undead Asylum. Good fun! icon_smile.gif

@Denny: Man, you are completely smashing this game! I'm always stuck looking for the next place to go.

I take it you'll be the one doing the review for Palgn? icon_wink.gif
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Yeah I'm handling it. A tonne of shit to write about for this game too. It's very special.

Also being a gravelord is slightly underwhelming. Very hard to get curses going in other players games when you're SL 120+. When it happens though, a lot of souls come your way.
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Hmm i heard that queelaag witch boss soul can either be used for making the weapon she uses when she fights you or chaos sword. I guess this is further incentive to do a NG+ I gave both of my embers to undead parish smith. I hope that doesn't prevent me from making any of those 2 weapons.
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Hmm i heard that queelaag witch boss soul can either be used for making the weapon she uses when she fights you or chaos sword. I guess this is further incentive to do a NG+ I gave both of my embers to undead parish smith. I hope that doesn't prevent me from making any of those 2 weapons.


There's a smith in Anor Londo that will make soul weapons for you. All you need is the correct standard weapon upgraded to +10 to then upgrade to the soul weapon.
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Just got this email from bookdepository:

I'm very sorry to advise your pre-order for Dark Souls - The Official Guide has been delayed.
Due to exceptional popularity our suppliers have been unable to meet the demand created and they have been forced to give us a new release date of 11th November.
To work out your new delivery date please add the number of shipping days for your country:

I knew the book sold in the millions =p
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I got it, yesterday via my friend, which came from ozgameshop. I'm a knight and spent a long time clearing out the graveyard to the left killed all the skeletons except the giant one! (tip heavy attack skeleton break up and reform allowing you to circle around and hit again).

I made it up to the sun guy near the bridge with the dragon and had to turn off, as I have work today! (2:16am).

Question: Is there somewhere to store items like in Demon's souls?

FYI: Knight is strong in attack, but slow in movement.
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Hey guys, I'm at SL25 or so, as a Wanderer going for a more melee focused build (albeit, I absolutely MUST have medium roll), and I'm a bit puzzled about armour in general.

I can't find anything better than my Wanderer armour, not even the black leather armour set I picked up in Lower Undead Berg can match it. Is this just the way of the game, will I be coming across better armour anytime soon, or should I start investing in upgrades for my starter gear?

Or am I totally missing something about armour in general?
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Question: Is there somewhere to store items like in Demon's souls?

when you get into the depths you can buy a bottomless box to manage your inventory at bonfires
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Hey guys, I'm at SL25 or so, as a Wanderer going for a more melee focused build (albeit, I absolutely MUST have medium roll), and I'm a bit puzzled about armour in general.

I can't find anything better than my Wanderer armour, not even the black leather armour set I picked up in Lower Undead Berg can match it. Is this just the way of the game, will I be coming across better armour anytime soon, or should I start investing in upgrades for my starter gear?

Or am I totally missing something about armour in general?


What are you looking at to compare them?

Wanderer's armour is light but generally pretty weak (though iirc it's fairly curse resistant), its damage reduction percentages aren't very good especially when you get hit hard. So yes, there are a number of better armour varients out there for medium-movers.

Also if you're planning on melee focus with pyro, endurance is the most important stat to level. Your stamina maxes out at 40 and your equip load never maxes until 99, so it'll help you immensely by giving you more equip load to play with so you can move faster with better armour, and also increase stamina so you can compensate for potentially low stability ratings on a shield.

Also a lot of people don't seem to know this, but pyromancy flame DOES NOT scale with any stat, including intelligence. The only way you upgrade the damage on your pyromancy flame is by upgrading the flame glove itself. There are three vendors who can do this, and you can get it to a maximum of +15.
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(tip heavy attack skeleton break up and reform allowing you to circle around and hit again).


This only works if your weapon has enough force.

Really enjoyed the Four Kings boss fight, very emersive. Is there anything in the Abyss? haha. I was pretty tempted to run off into the void, but turned back when the bonfire was barely visible.

Also made it to Lost Izalith and took out some of the demons, it looks like I'm going to face Seath the Scaleless next. :S
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Xtra wrote:
(tip heavy attack skeleton break up and reform allowing you to circle around and hit again).


This only works if your weapon has enough force.

Really enjoyed the Four Kings boss fight, very emersive. Is there anything in the Abyss? haha. I was pretty tempted to run off into the void, but turned back when the bonfire was barely visible.

Also made it to Lost Izalith and took out some of the demons, it looks like I'm going to face Seath the Scaleless next. :S


There is something in the Abyss after killing the Four Kings, though I don't know if you can acquire it if you don't meet specific conditions. It's to do with a covenant.
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made first pyromancy vendor go to his doom in blight town, killed 2nd by mistake, 3rd won't show up, guess I can't upgrade my damage in this playthrough :/
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I had a day off today and managed to finish off Queelag and also complete Sen's Fortress - nasty place that. A quick question regarding what happens after Sen's Fortress to those that have gone this far...

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After defeating Iron Golem and examining the circle of light I got dragged to Anor Londo. I Was wondering whether it was possible to get back afterwards, or whether I'm finished with the areas behind me (and therefore cannot continue)? It would be frustrating if I couldn't get back because I still had some areas I wanted to explore... :/

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Ember: you can go back, just talk to the Gargoyle thing where you're dropped off.
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Despite Pyromancy not scaling, I find it much better for general use over Sorcery, especially if you're a pure mage. Purely because of Combustion/Greater Combustion.

It's basically the melee attack for mages, with plenty of charges and still does a tremendous amount of damage.

Started to raise my Faith a little so I can actually use Miracles, yet using the Talisman that scales with Int. Rocking out my triple mage spec and loving every second.

Got through Tomb of the Giants (the majority of it), until I encountered a red mist door, just like in Demon Ruins. I guess I have to progress the story until I can unlock these areas. I'm planning to go to the Hollow Tree Trunk again, or is there another one of these bloody doors that will bar my exploration expedition?
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No orange doors in The Great Hollow, and at the bottom of it if you get through, you'll encounter a covenant.

Just took down three Lords and now am heading to Lost Izalith, then the final boss again. Kinda rushing down most stuff atm to get to NG++ cos of some NPCs I killed.

Meanwhile, I now have a good assortment of powerful Lightning Weapons. Have a Lightning Zweihander +4 that does 780 base damage. Mix that with the crystal shield and I'll pump 1.2k out of most enemies.

That being said, I still get absolutely destroyed by the beasts down at Tomb of the Giants and a couple of other areas. NG+ is brutal in damage output.

Also, Japanese pvpers are the worst bunch of players in the game. Every single invasion/fight I've had that resulted in the other player using every overpowered item possible or glitches, has been japanese. Confirmed it through checking their profile.

So annoying, fucking plague of cheesy players abusing exploits.
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^ Fixable via patch exploits?
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So I gained a large amount of Pyromancer spells recently, only to find out that the Chaos variants are currently bugged and do not scale with Humanity at all. Better off using the normal version.

Also Firestorm is rubbish in Dark Souls compared to Demon. Don't expect serious cheese from it, stick to Fire Orb.
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I want that fire whip move, it sounds awesome.
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Fire Whip is an extended version of Combustion. It's basically a very short range flamethrower which uses 21 charges for a full cast. The character casts it in a oval motion in front of him. It's stronger than Greater Combustion, it has the possibility of hitting twice on the same mob, and it obviously has larger range.

However, it's doesn't come out as fast and the actual casting animation is dangerously long for something that needs to be cast at close range.

I'm still experimenting with it and trying to find a good use for it. However, I may just stick to stacking several (Greater) Combustion scrolls in the long run.

The Chaos variants have one good upside at the moment, in that they leave puddles of lava for extra damage after the spell hits. Quick tests show that they do about 30-33% of the damage of a full hit of the spell they are based from, so it's great for Chaos Fireball. Not sure if I'll use it over Great Fireball since it does take up an extra slot.
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