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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-15/nasa-unveils-plans-for-deep-space-rocket/2899770
| Quote: | The first test launch is scheduled for 2017, followed by manned flights in 2021.
NASA could use it for a mission to an asteroid in 2025. NASA has indicated it expects to send astronauts around Mars before eventually landing on the red planet, but not before 2030. |
I for one welcome a chance to get with green women.
This news makes me inordinately happy. We need to forget our differences on Earth and look towards the stars.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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yeah this is kind of ridiculously cool. This is getting all sci-fi up in this shit.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Get your arse to mars
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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I fucking love you theo.
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Hahahah. How do the people who come up with these things face each new day? Everything they see seems to be a conspiracy involving the NWO.
I don't know if I could even get through breakfast with a mindset like that. I mean toast is really just bread. How do we know it's warm crunchiness is anything more than an illusion? A conspiracy to sell us shiny mind control boxes?
Concerning the new NASA venture, I can't believe they have the balls to announce a 12 billion dollar project. Seriously, they should just use the inherent gravity of their massive testes to make the heavens come to them.
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With all the financial problems America has along with there horrible health system, amongst other things. How can they afford this? And really what's the point?
Humans living on Mars, or any other planet in our solar system is impossible. Spending that kind of money just to explore space, whilst on earth people are starving every day seems kind of evil to me.
I do support the want to explore space, but not at the cost of poverty to the people here.
If there was some kind of world wide organisation like NASA, that took donations and people volunteering to work for it. Along with a reasonable amount of contribution from countries that can afford it, may be a good idea.
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| FalconDude wrote: | With all the financial problems America has along with there horrible health system, amongst other things. How can they afford this? And really what's the point?
Humans living on Mars, or any other planet in our solar system is impossible. Spending that kind of money just to explore space, whilst on earth people are starving every day seems kind of evil to me.
I do support the want to explore space, but not at the cost of poverty to the people here.
If there was some kind of world wide organisation like NASA, that took donations and people volunteering to work for it. Along with a reasonable amount of contribution from countries that can afford it, may be a good idea. |
I don't think people living on Mars or the Moon is impossible so much as it is stupid and prohibitively expensive. I do agree about your other point about poverty though. Just the other day I heard a news report about there now being 50 million people living in poverty in the U.S. That they spend the kind of money needed to fund NASA for what is essentially a Cold War cock measuring competition is disgusting.
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The reason I say its impossible. From reports we are using up so many of earth's resources, that human existence here may become extinct in the future.
To gather enough resources from here to create crafts to travel to mars, and ship enough materials to create extreme heat resistant shelter, oxygen, food etc is all big ask.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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I think the biggest question regarding be able to live on another planet is 'then what?'
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| Quote: | | To gather enough resources from here to create crafts to travel to mars, and ship enough materials to create extreme heat resistant shelter, oxygen, food etc is all big ask. |
Not... really at all...
Nasa has like 0.6% of the US's yearly budget. That's just over half of one percent.
The highest Nasa has ever had was just under 4.5% during the 60's.
The amount of money being spent on this is just such a ridiculously small amount compared to other spendings that it's almost negligable.
The amount of money Nasa has been given from 1958 to 2008 is somehwere in the rage of 471 billion dollars. That's in 50 years.
Compare that to the spending on defence from the US last year alone wich was $663.8 billion.
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| metalgear_yoshi wrote: | | That they spend the kind of money needed to fund NASA for what is essentially a Cold War **** measuring competition is disgusting. |
You do know that NASA funding makes up less than 1% of the total annual US budget, right?
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| Benza wrote: | Not... really at all...
Nasa has like 0.6% of the US's yearly budget. That's just over half of one percent. |
I'm a bit sketchy on my NASA history, but didn't they go public earlier this year? As in, they can now recieve seperate non-US government funds?
They were pretty much boned I thought.
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you also have to keep in mind.
A: Not 100% of NASA's budget goest towards building this rocket.
B: The amount of improvements we've seen from the technology developed for space travel is insane. Everything from cordless remotes and controllers, laser surgery, artifical limbs, hydroponics farming etc etc.
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| Quote: | | I'm a bit sketchy on my NASA history, but didn't they go public earlier this year? As in, they can now recieve seperate non-US government funds? |
Not sure, I used to be big on all this stuff growing up but have kind of fallen out of it. The numbers I quoted are from a couple of years back though (Couldn't find any info past 2008) so if they had they are probbably getting even less then that now.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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@Jarrod - That's the space shuttle program for low-Earth orbit they retired so they can focus on going further.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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To help bring things into perspective. Mars is around 35 Million Miles away from earth when they are perfectly aligned with each other in there rotation around the sun.
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That doesn't bring anything into perspective.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Just think of the frequent flyer miles.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| chickenplucka wrote: | | I think the biggest question regarding be able to live on another planet is 'then what?' |
And then onwards and outwards, my friend, onwards and outwards.
Mars should be, in an ideal world (where politicians don't try to scupper saving the planet's resources to win votes and we don't allow foreign governments to send us to war over minor religious points, for example), the colonisation of Mars would be the first step into reaching other, habitable planets.
It's kind've like when Edmund Hilary climbed Everest. Once he showed it could be done everyone and their one armed neighbour is doing it.
Also, in case anyone's interested, the Wikipedia entry on colonisaing Mars is interesting reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Mars
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Let's see, the last time Nasa actually went somehwere and landed with a manned craft? 1969-1972
Around 50 years between drinks is far too long.
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| FalconDude wrote: | Spending that kind of money just to explore space, whilst on earth people are starving every day seems kind of evil to me.
I do support the want to explore space, but not at the cost of poverty to the people here.
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The key flaw in this argument is that you equate money with results. While money can buy you some things (a rocket to Mars for example) it can't buy you other things (peace on earth).
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| Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| MIkes wrote: |
And then onwards and outwards, my friend, onwards and outwards.
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My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but
tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward,
and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom
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| jprockbelly wrote: | | While money can buy you some things (a rocket to Mars for example) it can't buy you other things (peace on earth). |
Don't forget dog treats. Money can also buy you chewy, tasty dog treats.
To the tune of $40 billion annually in the US.
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