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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: PSU for Antec P183 Reply with quote
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EDIT: Hey guys I am looking at buying an Antec P183 and a Corsair CX-600 power supply...however the antec p183 has a bottom mounted PSU...will the fan of the power supply be directed to the bottom of the case or would I install it facing up?. and also, will the cables on a CX-600 be long enough to go through the cable management and be connected?

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Hey,

Im looking for a replacement for my ASUS 9600GT as the fan has just started grinding, but looking online i cant really get a straight answer and alot of recommendations are for 200 dollars cards....My computer is 3 years old, so I dont think i'll be able to get some high end video card.

Specs are:
CPU - Intel Q6600 Quad Core
RAM - 4GB Kingmax
HDD - 250GB HDD
GPU - ASUS 9600GT
PSU - Coolermaster 460W (Came with Centurion 534 case)

So I am only really looking at a slight upgrade on my current card as I dont do huge amounts of gaming so budget is about $100. Nvidia would be preferred as I have more experience with them. I'm also looking for something that runs really quiet. Currently I am looking at the Gigabyte GT440 1GB but I am not sure if my power supply can handle it or how quietly it runs or if it is better than what i currently have.

If anyone can help me out and advise what my best options would be to suit my computer it would be great.

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What resolution is your monitor?
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Both are $115

Nvidia: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_876&products_id=18150

AMD/ATI: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_877&products_id=17900

Id go for the AMD HD5750 out of those two
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Monitor resolution is 1680x1050 22" monitor

also for those 2 cards i think i might be pushing the limits a bit too much, the ATI has a minimum recommended of 450W and ive only got 460W so that might be a bit too close for comfort.
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hmmm, you could get a new PSU as well.

This one is only $55 and is a Gigabyte 550W

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_535&products_id=15259
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This GPU only requires a 400W PSU

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_877&products_id=17538
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I'm in a similar situation with only a 420w psu. I have onboard Intel HD Graphics 850Mhz Core. Do you think that HD6770 card would improve the graphics performance much?
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I think the PSU is fine especially considering the price for what your after.

I recommend 1GB AMD Radeon HD6770. Bit more expensive but not by much. With your resolution it will run everything fine and I think it squeeze into your PSU although in the future you might look into buying a better one.
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What is the difference between a Gigabyte GT440 1GB and the Radeon HD6670....would the 6670 be the AMD equivalent of the GT440? I am sort of trying to stay away from Radeon as I had a radeon card before this one and couldnt stand the picture quality or the software that came with it......the GT440 seems to have better specs than the HD6670.....

i plan to upgrade the computer at a later date, but i just want a quick replacement card for now before this one explodes....dont want to have to buy new motherboards and PSU's just for a video card
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The 450 and HD5750 are basically the same.
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its so ridiculous to keep up with all the different cards....you would think that the higher the model number the better, but it doesnt seem to be the case....for something that should be so simple, its a real pain icon_razz.gif
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try using this site:

http://www.hwcompare.com/8872/geforce-gtx-460-vs-geforce-gtx-560-ti/

it lets you compare all the video cards and even tells you power consumption and you can also go to:

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

put in your specs and it will gice you a guide to how much power it will use

I know you want to stay away from Radeon cards but if i were you i would go the HD5770, its very cheap, doesn't use much power and my cousin has one and we were playing Mafia II on it the other day and it looked great
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i think the other big factor is a quiet fan on the card. I am still leaning towards the GT440 but i cant seem to find any reviews on that particular card as to if the fan is quiet or not.....nothing worse than a noisy GPU fan. I know you can get the Silent Cell radeons for 150 but again it comes down to the power supply issue.

does radeon tend to have a quieter fan than the nvidia's?

i was under the impression that the larger the fan the quieter it is as it doesnt have to spin as fast. i also looked at putting a new cooler on my current card, but just dont see the point in upgrading old hardware for the same performance.

so i think it pretty much comes down to the gigabyte gt440 or the gigabyte 6570 for around the same price or spend an extra 25 bucks and get the gigabyte 6670 .....as much as i dont want to get a radeon it seems that they have the wider range, but to me the specs say the GT440 is better than both those cards
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ended up just getting the GT440....sitting at the computer today with the current fan grinding its ass off....didnt want to wait any longer icon_razz.gif even tried to unscrew the fan, clean it all up and that made it worse lol.....might buy a cheap vga cooler to chuck on it to keep it as a spare.

now just gotta find a vga cooler that would replace this ridiculous glaciator fan
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so just put in the GT440 and wow, i really did not realise how loud my other card was....it was a jet engine compared to this. sure this isnt whisper quiet, but its running like 20 degrees cooler for starters....now for some peace and quiet.
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havent played a game yet to test it icon_razz.gif but will give it a good run on the weekend when i got some time to see how it goes....dont really have any hardcore games to push it to the limit though icon_razz.gif
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just put in a new question at the top of this post regarding a new case and power supply if anyone can help
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: PSU for Antec P183 Reply with quote
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EDIT: Hey guys I am looking at buying an Antec P183 and a Corsair CX-600 power supply...however the antec p183 has a bottom mounted PSU...will the fan of the power supply be directed to the bottom of the case or would I install it facing up?. and also, will the cables on a CX-600 be long enough to go through the cable management and be connected?


I have a P183 case and love it. I have a Corsair HX-650 in mine, with the fan facing the bottom of the case. Check the Show us ya Rig thread for pics: http://palgn.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=62734. Not sure on the length of the CX600 cables, but they should be OK.

Have you also considered the following modular PSU's for around the same price?

Antec TruePower TP-550 550W
Silverstone Strider Plus 600W ST60F-P
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ah yes, i did see that case in the show us ya rig. ...how do you find the corsairs are noise wise? i want something really quiet.

i did look at modular, but i read up on it and they seem to have mixed reviews about the power performance of them so figured i would just stick with the non-modular.

the description does say the cables are extra long, so i would assume they would be designed to fit full tower cases.

is there anything i should know about the antec p183 before purchasing it, regarding noise....ease of installation....case fan quality........i was looking at the p183 or a fractal design r3 and have decided on the P183, because noone could really give any negatives on it. i was also thinking of waiting for the P280 to be released but i dont really like the look of it, or the non removable hard drive bays and that there is no divide between power and the rest of the case....although i am not sure which is better for cooling purposes.
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is there anything i should know about the antec p183 before purchasing it, regarding noise....ease of installation....case fan quality........i was looking at the p183 or a fractal design r3 and have decided on the P183, because noone could really give any negatives on it. i was also thinking of waiting for the P280 to be released but i dont really like the look of it, or the non removable hard drive bays and that there is no divide between power and the rest of the case....although i am not sure which is better for cooling purposes.


I have the P183, it's the easiest case I've ever worked with. The only problem I ran into was the length of one of the cables from the PSU. It took a bit of hunting around to find an extension cable too! My PSU is a Vantec for reference.

The sound-dampening properties on the case are fantastic, though the rubber grommets on the Hard drive enclosure are a bit fiddly - and the HDDs don't really feel all that secure once installed. Having said that though, I've never had one fall out or anything.

The dust filters work well, though you have to clean them regularly or they start looking a bit yuck.

Cable management is great, mostly because there's just so much space in there, both in front and behind the motherboard. Make sure you make the most of it!
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ok i think i definately need to go the P183, ill try and find out some more about the length of the cables for that PSU.

i dont really mind cleaning the dust filters, i'd rather be cleaning them often than having to clean the inside of the case. do u wash them with water or just give them a bit of a shake??

if i do need to get extension cables any suggestions where the best place to get them from is??
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ok i think i definately need to go the P183, ill try and find out some more about the length of the cables for that PSU.

i dont really mind cleaning the dust filters, i'd rather be cleaning them often than having to clean the inside of the case. do u wash them with water or just give them a bit of a shake??

if i do need to get extension cables any suggestions where the best place to get them from is??


I take the filters off every couple of months and give them a few shakes in a sink of water and leave them to dry and they come up like new.

I think your PSU will be fine, but PC Case gear should have the extensions if you need them.
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cheers for the help guys

only problem now is trying to find someone who has the P183 in stock at a reasonable price...cant really justify spending an extra 40 bucks to get it posted from PC Case Gear. It cant be a little frustrating when you want something small like a case fan or some screws and its automatically 12 dollars postage icon_razz.gif

Just waiting on a reply from Umart in Brisbane to see when they will be getting it in stock again.
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