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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I tend to like to buy my own SATA cables because the ones that come with the parts I find are too short for decent cable management (bonus: the ones I bought are pretty blue UV cables), and also use some molex extension cables for the same reason, but if you're not fussy you should get enough cables with everything, or possibly a few SATA cables short
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Your motherboard and PSU should come with everything you absolutely need for the internal wiring. Your case should also come with a power cable.
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What am I doing in here? Oh yeah, Battlefield 3...

Most of you know that I hate this Master Race bollocks, but I love Battlefield too much. I also hate hassle and have zero knowledge of PC building or fancy specs. So I need advice.

I want something that will run BF3 as good as the amazing trailers, and preferably I want to buy it off a local site that does all the building for you. I had a look at Centrecom and that seems like good value, apart from that I'm lost...literally.

God I love my consoles :/

Oh and by the hoo, this caught my eye - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/corporal-intel-core-2400-bonus-package-p-52962.html

Yay or nay?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nay that will most likely have a very low end GPU, the rest is ok, but if i were to buy that, i would get a new graphics card like a 6970 or 6950
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What resolution?

Most the specs look fine but I doubt the GPU is anything decent.

Sure you can't build it yourself or get someone else in Melbourne to help you? It's not as hard as you'd think it is and you'd probably be surprised how satisfying it is to build a computer.
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that looks god. I would like to know the GPU before buying it though.
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Quick question about power supplies.

How does one calculate how much power their PC uses? I wanna get a new gfx card and not too sure if a new PSU is needed.
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http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

That's a good power supply calculator.

Here's some examples (I presume you've got a quad core CPU):

500W: Any single card set up except the GTX580, 590, 6990.

600W: GTX580

750W: 6990, 590 or an SLI CF configuration (6970 CF, GTX570 SLI).

850W-1000W: GTX580 SLI

1000W+: Three-way or more SLI, CF.

Keep in mind that a high wattage on a power supply doesn't necessarily mean it will be capable of powering a high end system. The amperage on the 12V is important. A quality power supply should be capable of delivering all of it's wattage on the 12V, so a 750W power supply should have 62A (12x62=744W). Also keep an eye out for 80 plus certification. Corsair, Seasonic and Silverstone are some of the better brands.
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pretty new to this so just looking to see if the below all goes together and what are some alternatives/recommendations. 1600 is about the budget.

CASE: Corsair Obsidian 650D Case $219
MOBO: ASRock Z68 Pro3 Motherboard B3 $129
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH (2x4GB) DDR3 $69
GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 580 DirectCU II $549
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K $219
HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ $69
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SSD $199
OPTICAL: Pioneer DVR-219L DVDRW OEM $29
PSU: Corsair TX-650 V2 Power Supply $115


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Got my samsung 27" 3D monitor and my Razer mouse sling set up. The 120hz monitor is friggin great makes a noticeable difference in games. Ive got the Nvidia 3D vision going with the monitor using the 3d emiter emulator hack. The 3D is a lot better than my 3D plasma. The mouse sling is great also, no more drag on the cord makes a big improvement for fps games especially.


EDIT soz i supposed to post in the show us your rig thread
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With the upcoming run of big PC titles (Namely Battlefield 3), I've decided it might be time to upgrade my Graphics Card. I've been doing a little research, and in the past I've usually chosen a card with higher clock speeds over larger VRAM sizes.

Here is the current specs of the core system:

ASUS Crosshair IV FORMULA
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.20GHz / 3.60GHz Turbo Core
Corsair 2x2GB 1600MHz DDR3 Dominator GT DHX+
XFX Radeon HD5870 XXX Edition 1GB GDDR5 875/2600MHz
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB SSD
Corsair HX850 PSU

My monitor's max resolution at the moment is 1920 x 1080.

I'm looking to stay in the AMD backyard to pick up another Radeon HD card, and am not looking at a multi-monitor setup in the future. However, I would consider picking up a newer monitor down the line with a higher resolution.

What does everyone think of the different models in the 6xxx series, and should I stay with the clock speeds, or lean towards the VRAM this time? I've heard that the 6990 cards would be overkill for the requirements I'm looking at the moment.
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I'm also getting into the market for some upgrades.

Current Specs (Bold indicates wanting to upgrade):
MOBO: Asus M4A785TD-V EVO 785G Socket AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Socket AM3
GPU: XFX Radeon HD5850
RAM: 2x Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz, 2x Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz XMS3
PSU: OCZ Stealth XStream 600W
HDD: Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII
SSD: Corsair 120GB Force 3 SSD 2.5" SATA-III
DVD: Samsung SH-B123L 12x BD-ROM DVD±RW DL & RAM Lightscribe SATA Optical Drive

I will also be looking to replace my basic Antec 300 case with someone quite a bit larger. I'm intending to replace the GFX card with an SLI/Crossfire config. I'm not looking to upgrade my monitor (Max Res: 1920x1080) just yet, but that might come in future.

Budget for CPU/GPU/MOBO/PSU upgrades around £1000. Not sure if I want to stick with ATI or go nVidia on the GFX card, but I want some future proofing, so an i7 is on the cards.
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Quin wrote:

Current Specs (Bold indicates wanting to upgrade):
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Socket AM3
GPU: XFX Radeon HD5850

I'm not looking to upgrade my monitor (Max Res: 1920x1080) just yet, but that might come in future.


To be honest, at that res I don't think there is that much to be gained with an upgrade now, your gear is still pretty good. I'd suggest looking at overclocking the CPU (if you haven't already) and waiting until the next lot of CPU's from AMD and Intel have landed along with the new GPU's coming out later this year / early next year.
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^ I'm surprised you're having trouble with anything on those specs. They look pretty darn similar to mine. Pretty much only one generation old?
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Quin wrote:

Current Specs (Bold indicates wanting to upgrade):
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Socket AM3
GPU: XFX Radeon HD5850

I'm not looking to upgrade my monitor (Max Res: 1920x1080) just yet, but that might come in future.


To be honest, at that res I don't think there is that much to be gained with an upgrade now, your gear is still pretty good. I'd suggest looking at overclocking the CPU (if you haven't already) and waiting until the next lot of CPU's from AMD and Intel have landed along with the new GPU's coming out later this year / early next year.


On the overclocking point, do you have any advice? Fill out the remaining fan ports on the case (Case only shipped with 2 out of a maximum of 5 fans), maybe? I've not actually done that much overclocking for a little while.
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not building a PC but want some advice , at the moment im in the market for a few new HDDs and some ram , i currently have an old maxtor 1tb external that i just reformatted to fat 32 the other day , i plan to use it exclusively PS3 back ups now , was just wondering were i should shop ? amazon ? umart ? mono price ? after the cheapest price but not the cheapest build if it matters , chasing 1tb or more 2.5 for my PS3 , and a 2. something tb drive for backing up and maybe a 2tb or more 3.5 for my PC - if its cheaper to buy the hdd and caddy i could just do that ..... i did a big search a few weeks ago but couldn't decide

im also looking for some new ram currently using 4gbs g skull ( 2 sitcks) under win 7 64bit

the MBO i have is a

Gigabyte X58A-UD3R


appreciate the help
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MSY, Umart or PCCG if you shop online. That's where I go. Internal 1TB hard drive will only set you back $60. I'd recommend the Samsung F3 7200rpm or a WD Black. Both are popular drives at the moment and as fast as you get for a hard drive. Don't pay more for SATA III because it won't matter on a slow hard drive.

Doesn't the Gigabyte X58A-UD3R use triple channel memory? Probably not a good idea to be running just 2 sticks. Throw another 2GB stick in but make sure it's the same speed, timings. I'd recommend just buying the same brand (G-Skill). You could also use all 6 slots, so buy another 4x2GB.

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On the overclocking point, do you have any advice? Fill out the remaining fan ports on the case (Case only shipped with 2 out of a maximum of 5 fans), maybe? I've not actually done that much overclocking for a little while.


The CPU cooler is the most important thing. Even something basic will make a huge difference like the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+.

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What does everyone think of the different models in the 6xxx series, and should I stay with the clock speeds, or lean towards the VRAM this time? I've heard that the 6990 cards would be overkill for the requirements I'm looking at the moment.


6990 is not overkill. BF3 is a demanding game and brings single GPU cards to their knees. You aren't going to be able to max it with current single GPU video cards and get a smooth FPS. I'd recommend 2GB+ for BF3, 1GB cards are just cutting it too close.
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6990 is not overkill. BF3 is a demanding game and brings single GPU cards to their knees. You aren't going to be able to max it with current single GPU video cards and get a smooth FPS. I'd recommend 2GB+ for BF3, 1GB cards are just cutting it too close.


Unless there's a massive change in graphics output between the beta and the retail release, my GTX580 isn't having a single problem running everything in ultra. 6990 wouldn't be overkill, it'd be another step up from that. If anything, being at the highest level is a long term solution.
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It's been stated that the beta is only medium/high settings and doesn't implement Destruction 2.0 so it's very scaled back. Although it is supposedly an old build so it may be more optimized with the retail release but I think it's safe to assume it'll be more demanding when you crank everything up to ultra.

I have a 6950 unlocked to a 6970 and it honestly struggles with the beta only getting 30FPS on Caspian Border with 64 players.
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The CPU cooler is the most important thing. Even something basic will make a huge difference like the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+.


Thanks for the advice.
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I came across this from Harvey Norman. $3999 seems a bit steep?
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Yeah overpriced, but then prepackaged systems always are.

The case is awesome thought. Reminds me of the one BMW designed a while back. Separate compartments for everything.
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A13x has that case, it's pretty awesome.

Also I LOL'd at the price.
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If all goes well, this shall be mine soon. I just need to decide on a motherboard, HELP.

-NZXT Phantom Black E-ATX Full Tower Case
-Intel i7-2600K
-Motherboard
-G.Skill 16GB DDR3 RAM
-MSI Nvidia GTX580
-Corsair HX750
-Corsair H100
-OCZ 60GB SSD
-2x2TB HDD
-Blu-Ray Drive
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Here's my suggestion: Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3R B3 Z68 LGA1155 4DDR3 USB3.0 SLI GLAN Intel Z68 B3 Stepping ~$180
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