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| Quote: | Is Valve Releasing a New Counter-Strike Game?
Out of nowhere, there's rumours flying around tonight that Valve is on the cusp of revealing a new game.
It's not Episode 3, but for many, it will be the next best thing: a new Counter-Strike game.
Most of the chit-chat so far is based around testers (and eSports commentators) having very recently got some hands-on time with the rumoured project at Valve HQ. Some of them even pausing to take happy snaps of the trip.
All of the testers are involved in some way or another with the eSports scene, in particular competitive Counter-Strike gaming, and have apparently been down at Valve HQ giving their thoughts on a current build of the project.
Its full name is supposedly Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, and is due out in Q1 2012. Whether it's a major update to the existing Counter-Strike or an all-new title isn't clear yet. According to the testers, some of the changes it would be making to the series' tried and tested formula would be new guns, new grenades, revamped maps and free ammo.
Oh, and the fact it'll be running on an updated version of Valve's Source Engine. And hats? No word yet on hats.
We've contacted Valve for more info, and will update if we hear back. |
Shitting bricks if real.
http://kotaku.com/5830230/is-valve-releasing-a-new-counter+strike-game
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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That's unexpected. As long as the custom maps are as good as CS:S, I'll definitely get it (the only reason I play CS:S, don't think I've ever played the "standard" modes, other than a few times with bots).
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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There will be a proper announcement from Valve within 24 hours. Should be playable at Gamescom.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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CoD killer? let's hope so, Valve treat their customers with respect, as opposed to a certain other company, who shall remain nameless.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have my fingers crossed.
CS:1.6 ftw.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sigh..
Thats all I have to say really :/
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Hmm, does anyone think this could be a F2P game? Or a console/PC game? I'd be kind of disappointed if it was, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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No offense to anyone who is looking forward to this game, thats great for you and sure it will be good if its your type of thing...
But is it just me or should Valve have a kind of informal obligation now to finish the Half Life story arc they have started? Everytime theres a new announcement from them a million fans (Valve fans no less) breathe another sigh of exasperation. They left us on another cliffhanger 4 years ago and I just want a sense of completion to this particular story arc. I don't even care if its only another short episode, I would just like them to finish what they started, is that really so much to ask?
Also, I know this is just me, but I wish they would start making games I actually care about again. They are a fantastic developer, but im sick of this obsession they have with multiplayer when they can make some of the best singleplayer games around, and that random alien shooting game wasnt up to their usual standards at all. Portal 2 was the first thing they have made I've liked since the first Portal in 2007.
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| PixieGirl wrote: | | that random alien shooting game wasnt up to their usual standards at all. |
I don't think Alien Swarm was really done by Valve. It was more like a mod team they hired mid-development and decided to let them finish and release their work as a free game. It was also a remake of an old Unreal (Tourney?) mod.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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This is essentially Counter-Strike for consoles. Theres a good few hands-on previews out there and almost all note the lack of recoil, other small changers, and general 'consolised' direction. Valve has even pointed out this isn't supposed to be Counter-Strike 2, wont replace 1.6 or Source, and that they're still going to update the latter.
Also, its not being made by Valve, not internally. They're only funding it.
As for HL2:Ep3 (or HL3), the wait sucks, and its my most anticipated game ever. But I know Valve will only release it once they're confident its up to scratch, and I'd hate to rush quality.
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None have said its a bad game, but even that preview states "I have my fair share of concerns about how what apparently seems to be a console game built on the Source engine will port over to the PC".
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Aww, I knew it'd be a console game. Doesn't matter though, Counter Strike: Source still has a lot of life left in it, more than enough until the next "true" Counter Strike gets released. Still, definitely interested in seeing more about it, could still be a lot of fun.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Can't wait! 
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4 year wait for a game? GOD DAMN THAT'S A LONG TIME.
Cynics and self-entitlement all over the place. Quality doesn't come just like that. It took a decade for StarCraft II to come out and beat StarCraft. It's taken 6 years for BF3 to finally rear it's head and be a true sequel to BF2.
HL3/Ep3/whatever will arrive, and it's probably in development. It just annoys me that there's this massive level of self-entitlement that people have where Valve are seemingly obligated to meet the gamers time frames.
Anyway, new CS is cool, though a shame if it's a bit dumbed down. Never a fan of more streamlined gameplay with FPS.
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When they say there will be 3 episodes of one game in bitesized chunks and be released in a considerable time between each other, they should actually stick to that. If they cant for whatever reason, a good guideline of what not to do, is to release 4 other full games (with two others announced) over the space of 4 years without a single word of the development of finishing what they have started.
At the moment we have 2 episodic parts of one unfinished game. I don't mind that they struggled to release it in time, I know they are probably working on a new Half-Life currently, and I know they have a record for being slow and releasing something excellent at the end of it, but all these new games inbetween without a peep of news on any new Half-Life is not just ignoring their fans but spitting in our faces. They promised us something they have been unable to keep to, is a little bit of info too much to ask? No.
It's not like its bad for them either, everyone and their dog would rush to buy it should it appear on the steam store tomorrow.
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I hope it is playable on console and Australian's don't have to do some absurd work around in order to get green ping matches like the original L4D on the 360
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It is entirely reasonable to be tight lipped, because they don't want leaks (who remembers the HL2 leak? Delayed by a year and many lulz.) and why do they need to say anything when everyone and their dog will buy it anyway? Their hype train is powered by impatient fans, and it's hilarious.
It is blatantly obvious they're going to complete the arc and I don't think they need to announce anything. Yes, it's annoying that they didn't follow through on the original plan of episodic chunks in short frames, but it looks like the ending was a little too much for them to put in just one episode, and thus a delay would be expected from something like that.
Also, game development particularly when more and more technical upgrades are emerging isn't exactly an easy thing, especially when your team isn't a huge one. And I'm sure that they're looking at putting their all into the next Half life considering it's their flagship IP.
I also dislike the ideology that if they release it in a week, everyone will buy it, so it's totally viable. Why the hell should they rush it? It might be great for them considering they'll have plenty of dosh, but I'm also quite sure the quality won't be as great, and fans will once again raise pitchforks in anger because it doesn't meet their ridiculous standards. The cynicism of gamers is astounding in that regard, as they never seem to be happy. Take time with a game? HURRY UP. Bring out game fast? IT'S RUSHED.
Valve are not spitting in anyone's faces whatsoever. HL1 fans had to wait 5 years (a fair amount of that added because of scumbag 'fans' leaking the game out), so I'm sure people can wait a little longer for something to pop up, snippets of info or not.
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| XtremeXfactor wrote: | | I hope it is playable on console and Australian's don't have to do some absurd work around in order to get green ping matches like the original L4D on the 360 |
That's all part of the true console gaming experience though bro, as well as not being able to aim at people or play on high graphics.
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| PixieGirl wrote: | When they say there will be 3 episodes of one game in bitesized chunks and be released in a considerable time between each other, they should actually stick to that. If they cant for whatever reason, a good guideline of what not to do, is to release 4 other full games (with two others announced) over the space of 4 years without a single word of the development of finishing what they have started.
At the moment we have 2 episodic parts of one unfinished game. I don't mind that they struggled to release it in time, I know they are probably working on a new Half-Life currently, and I know they have a record for being slow and releasing something excellent at the end of it, but all these new games inbetween without a peep of news on any new Half-Life is not just ignoring their fans but spitting in our faces. They promised us something they have been unable to keep to, is a little bit of info too much to ask? No.
It's not like its bad for them either, everyone and their dog would rush to buy it should it appear on the steam store tomorrow. |
Gabe has already admitted the episodic content plan failed, and the company has gone on record a few times since Episode 2 to confirm that Episode 3/Half-Life 3 is still in development.
I know it sucks. Believe me. As I said, Half-Life 3/Episode 3 is my most anticipated game. But Valve are one of the few developers who have the luxury of taking as much time as necessary to get a game perfect, and to work on projects that the feel passionate about. We've seen sequels to Left 4 Dead and Portal because they had ideas that they wanted to experiment within the context of those games worlds. Portal was a surprising success, so its only natural that they wanted to explore a second game with a bigger budget and grander scope.
Keep in mind that Valve is a huge company too. While Portal 2 was in development they also had people working on DOTA2, Team Fortress 2 updates, Episode 3, and now we learn Counter-Strike. They're a massive workplace, so a good few people would always be working on something Half-Life related even if we dont know about it.
And I guess thats the ticket wtih Valve. They dont like to talk about things indepth without having something substantial to show for it. DOTA2 is due to release this year, with a build playable at Gamescom in a few days, and we haven't seen a single screenshot. They keep a tight lid on all things Half-Life because the game isn't ready. If they show us a screenshot or something now, all its going to do is make the wait even harder.
I can only hope that Half-Life 3 is Valve's big game for 2012, and we learn about it next year. Unlike a lot of other developers, Valve's quality of content gives me too much faith to really let the lack of Half-Life news get to me. The wait is painful, but I know when the game does hit it will be absolutely phenominal, and that thought in itself makes the wait worthwhile.
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| A13x wrote: | | XtremeXfactor wrote: | | I hope it is playable on console and Australian's don't have to do some absurd work around in order to get green ping matches like the original L4D on the 360 |
That's all part of the true console gaming experience though bro, as well as not being able to aim at people or play on high graphics. |
I'll be checking it out on pc first, but would be cool to also play the console version at some point.
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