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Fuck everything about Capcom. When you're avidly looking to drive the Blue Bomber into the ground, you are assassinating a childhood hero and don't deserve fan money.
A shadow of their former selves really. Kind of a shame.
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| admeister wrote: | | Honestly, I don't have much of a problem with the new DMC game. I like that they're coming at the series from a different angle, and trying new things. On the other hand, I've never been a huge fan of the series, and people do get attached to these things. Still, we should try to encourage creativity in the industry, from the big studios as well as the indie ones. |
How is this 'different' angle beneficial though? Stylistically, Devil May Cry didn't need a make over. It had an audiance and quite a big one, and so a reboot was uneccesary. Mechanically, Ninja Theory has proven utter incompetance in matching that style of gameplay, so where's the originality there? The God of War "mash attack to win" genre already has enough clones. So where does DmC fit in, where a proper, new Devil May Cry would not? If anything, I consider the changes they're making with DmC to be totally uneccesary. It stinks of a bad idea, and a bad reboot, that will bomb.
Anyway, Capcom's big two new original IPS are Azura's Wrath and Dragon's Dogma. As said, the former is we know little about. Jeremy seemed to like it at E3. I saw a gameplay trailer a couple of days ago, and it killed my interest in the game. Piss yellow filter Unreal Engine 3, God of War clone gameplay. Dragon's Dogma? This is, if I'm correct, Capcom's most expensive project in years, having been in development forever. And it looks like horseshit.
If they dont change, Capcom will go the way of so many other publishers that fail to evolve with the times. Too many chefs in the kitchen, none of with a lick of talent to cook. They'll milk the ever loving shit out of whatever IPs are popular at the time, until quality becomes saturated by quantity. Profits will drop, mistakes will be made, high profile titles will bomb, and the publisher's stock will become open to the highest bidder, and that will probably be a Western publisher that actually knows what its doing.
Then Nintendo will fall, and we'll enter a new, terrifying age of gaming where everything is made for smart phones and requires several microtransactions just to unlock the whole game.
THE END IS NIGH. THE WINTER IS COMING.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:41 am Post subject: |
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It's also a little worrying to look at how there fighting games have progressed since Street Fighter 4, every successive iteration has actually removed features from the games.
Street Fighter 4 had animated intros, animated endings, combo challenges, a gallery with heaps of cutscenes and concept art to unlock, time attack, survival, score challenges etc.
Super Street Fighter 4 dropped the animated intros and replaced them with static ones, droped the gallery and all the unlockable concept art, dropped the survival, score challenge time attack modes.
Arcade edition Dropped challenge modes leaving it with basically only arcade and online.
I mean king of fighters 12 got slammed for being such a bare bones console game but Arcade Edition isn't far behind it in terms of content.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Benza, SSF4 AE has challenge mode. At least on the PC version from Steam. I agree with the rest though. They set each revision at a cheaper price point but you essentially miss out on content that should have been carried over to begin with.
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| eckymosis wrote: | | Benza, SSF4 AE has challenge mode. At least on the PC version from Steam. I agree with the rest though. They set each revision at a cheaper price point but you essentially miss out on content that should have been carried over to begin with. |
on the consoles to do challenge mode it drops you back to super and you can't use any of the new characters.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:34 am Post subject: |
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But the core gameplay of KOF12 sucked balls compared to SSF4. They should go back to doing it arcade style like Namco. Release the first version, get feedback from players, etc. Release a complete balanced version, then port that over to the consoles.
But then again, Capcoms arcade strategy sucks compared to Namcos....I will not be buying any other versions of SF4. But for MvC3, seeing as I enjoy the game and get hundreds and hundreds of hours from it, I'll definitely get UMvC3.
Although, I am pretty pissed about how they are completely driving the Megaman franchise to the ground. COME BACK INAFUNE!!!
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I find it strange that Capcom acknowledge the popularity of the Mega Man franchise by including several characters in their fighting games, but then cancel the more interesting sounding games. I was pretty keen for Mega Man Universe 
I'd forgotten about Capcom publishing Asura's Wrath though. Hopefully that will be pretty good.
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| Pilot wrote: | | I find it strange that Capcom acknowledge the popularity of the Mega Man franchise by including several characters in their fighting games, |
haha.. nope. Megaman, any version is probably the single most requested character for MVC 3 and he's no where to be seen.
| Quote: | | But for MvC3, seeing as I enjoy the game and get hundreds and hundreds of hours from it, I'll definitely get UMvC3. |
See that's the thing, yeah of course people like you that have plugged 100's of hours into it are going to buy every single addition because if you play it that much then you are getting your moneys worth. And I'm sure you'll have a fucking blast putting hundreds of hours into UMvC3.
But the hardcore fans like you are a pretty small contingent of the market base. The majority of people that bought it probably aren't still playing it, they've either moved back to whatever there main fighting game is like a lot of people on the forum, or they bought it and played it for a while until the next game they wanted to play came out.
These are the people that they're going to drive away with the constant reiterations. I mean they've all ready driven you away from street fighter, for the people that aren't as into MvC3 as you, then it's pretty much the same situation.
Also it doesn't help that every other company putting out fighting games is doing way more to keep the casual crowd interested in there games then Capcom. I mean while Capcom are taking away features and leaving us with an incredibly bare bones game. Tekken is giving us ridiculous levels of character customization (Which looks to be taken even further in TT2), MK has it's cinematic story mode and metric fuck tonne of unlockables, Blazblue has its ridiculously in depth story mode etc. If you were looking at it as a casual fighting game fan which one would you rather?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Benza wrote: | | Pilot wrote: | | I find it strange that Capcom acknowledge the popularity of the Mega Man franchise by including several characters in their fighting games, |
haha.. nope. Megaman, any version is probably the single most requested character for MVC 3 and he's no where to be seen. |
Mega Man isn't in MvC3, but Tron Bonne & Zero both are. Tatsunoko vs Capcom had Mega Man Volnutt, Roll & Zero. Recently Capcom have used quite a few characters from the Mega Man franchise. Given that there were already 2 Mega Man characters in MvC3, I can see why they wouldn't add another (though X would've been awesome).
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Megaman is so popular that Capcom will only release a downloadable game, ports of old games for PSP and numerous **** DS games while refusing to make any form of HD title even though the current gen is six years in, starting and cancelling Megaman Legends 3 and refusing to touch the Megaman X series.
Yeah, appearances in the Vs. Capcom titles don't show how popular the character/games are.
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| Quote: | | numerous **** DS games |
The games on GBA and DS are actully some of the very best in the series!
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| Jahanzeb wrote: | | Quote: | | numerous **** DS games |
The games on GBA and DS are actully some of the very best in the series! |
I was more reffering to the Battle Network titles, where the DS iterations have just been mediocre at best and Zero Collection, which while fun was a port of an older game.
Beyond the Battle Network games the only Megaman we've gotten this whole generation that's been new is Megaman 9.
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| Jahanzeb wrote: | | Quote: | | numerous **** DS games |
The games on GBA and DS are actully some of the very best in the series! |
The DS ones were an unfocused mess with some of the worst voice acting I've ever heard.
They tried to do a metroidvania game but failed misserably in the execution so you were left wandering around with no clear direction or map trying to figure out where the fuck you were supposed to go.
Also I found this conveniant recap
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after lookng at that, ive decided to boycott Capcom. Alpha 3 remake or not.
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| Vervain wrote: | | Yeah, appearances in the Vs. Capcom titles don't show how popular the character/games are. |
I disagree. Each game features multiple characters from the Mega Man franchise. Seems like a bad decision to do that if the franchise is so unpopular, especially given the number of other Capcom franchises which remain untapped.
Then again, this thread is about Capcom making nothing but bad decisions....
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| Pilot wrote: | | Vervain wrote: | | Yeah, appearances in the Vs. Capcom titles don't show how popular the character/games are. |
I disagree. Each game features multiple characters from the Mega Man franchise. Seems like a bad decision to do that if the franchise is so unpopular, especially given the number of other Capcom franchises which remain untapped.
Then again, this thread is about Capcom making nothing but bad decisions.... |
Yes, Megaman characters are hugely popular among gamers, but they aren't popular with Capcom. If it's not Devil May Cry (to a degree), Street Fighter or Resident Evil, Capcom have shown they really don't give a **** in the past couple of years. If it isn't likely to sell millions of copies in the west, we'll never get it.
Edit: Another way of putting it is that while Megaman is "popular" enough to warrant appearances in games like MvC, the franchise isn't popular enough for them to warrant any time to develop any games.
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I remember when I was initially waiting on the DmC gameplay before passing judgement, as there might be some hope yet.
Then I saw it and a few organs died.
God damnit Capcom, what have you become!?
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is it weirder that that actually makes me more pissed off at capcom?
With this and dark stalkers it seems like they're ransoming off there games. It's fucked up.
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Honestly, who cares about MM Legends 3. Was anybody really going to buy this? I have no problem with Capcom canning this.
MM has been a stale franchise for a good long while. Since X it's been mostly rubbish.
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I care, I would have, and I have a problem with Capcom canning it.
Legends was one of the only good MegaMan reboots among the countless, and was a legitimately well crafted series. More deserving than half the dross that they pump out currently.
That title sold me on getting a 3DS basically, so I'm a wee bit disappointed.
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| LeonJ wrote: | | Honestly, who cares about MM Legends 3. Was anybody really going to buy this? |
these 34 thousand people to start with?
And shit what else are you going to buy on the 3DS?
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| Benza wrote: | | And **** what else are you going to buy on the 3DS? |
I'd be more surprised to see someone who actually owns a 3DS even after the price drop.
Regarding Darkstalkers, what's really funny, annoying, and sad is that they'd go ahead and make a new game for the series if Street Fighter 4 did well. They've gone back on that because its well over two years and now they're saying they'll only go through with it if SF x Tekken does well. What a bunch gelatinous tapeworms.
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