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slapshakle

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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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I'm rocking a Samsung Omnia 7 running WP7. Can't wait for the Mango update. _________________
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GooberMan


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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Furianshi wrote: | | rip CDs to mp3 |
Apart from the already mentioned CDEX, Exact Audio Copy is the only other rational option for CD ripping. Audiophiles will even tell you to avoid CDEX and use EAC instead.
One day, I need to sit down and rip my entire library (600+ CDs) with EAC to FLAC. From there, convert them to OGG and stick them on my phone. That's a massive undertaking though and I'm not OCD, so I usually skip those and rip straight to MP3 simply because my old iAudio X5 needs some repairing and no other media player I've had since has had OGG playback capabilities.
Hooray for Android's developer community then.
Step 1 is to ignore the default music player (although HTC's music player is fairly decent). Step 2 is to find a good one that you like.
Small edit: I just realised WinAmp also imports iTunes to your Android. _________________
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Furianshi PALGN Moderator


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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| GooberMan wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: | | rip CDs to mp3 |
Apart from the already mentioned CDEX, Exact Audio Copy is the only other rational option for CD ripping. |
I'm sure audiophiles love it for ripping their old scratched CDs and for the fact that you can rip to FLAC, but EAC doesn't have variable bitrate for mp3 (personally, I like to use 192-320 vbr) and I don't like using anything that wants to 'configure' my physical disc drives.
Purely for mp3 ripping, and without getting too anal about it all, I think the free cd to mp3 program I linked to, or CDEX would be fine.
For the backing up of audio CDs, EAC and the FLAC format would be the way to go. Just for making mp3s for your phone? There's plenty of rational freeware options.
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GooberMan


Status: Offline Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 3682 $poons: 127.80 Location: Melbourne! Booyah.

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| Furianshi wrote: | | EAC doesn't have variable bitrate for mp3 |
Absolutely and 100% incorrect. You shouldn't be using anything other than LAME to encode MP3s anyway.
| Furianshi wrote: | | Just for making mp3s for your phone? There's plenty of rational freeware options. |
Such as EAC, which is free for non-commercial purposes - ie, putting your music on your phone.
Otherwise, as we both seem to be mentioning, CDEX is fine for most purposes.
Small edit: Yes, you should care about the quality of the encode. Phone hardware isn't exactly the highest quality audio gear you can get, so anything you can do to help that out is beneficial to your overall listening experience. Especially those amongst us with big flashy headphones. _________________
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Furianshi PALGN Moderator


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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:24 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if we're on the same page...
| GooberMan wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: | | EAC doesn't have variable bitrate for mp3 |
Absolutely and 100% incorrect. You shouldn't be using anything other than LAME to encode MP3s anyway. |
I feel like I'm missing something here, like ALL mp3 encoded through LAME is variable bitrate or something. Where do you determine the minimum/maximum bitrate in EAC for variable bitrate?
This is the vbr option that I don't see in EAC:
And where did I say to use anything other than LAME for mp3 encoding?
| GooberMan wrote: | | Furianshi wrote: | | Just for making mp3s for your phone? There's plenty of rational freeware options. |
Such as EAC, which is free for non-commercial purposes - ie, putting your music on your phone. |
I didn't say "excluding EAC". I was mostly responding to your "EAC and CDEX are the only rational options for ripping mp3s" comment. They aren't.
| GooberMan wrote: | | Yes, you should care about the quality of the encode. Phone hardware isn't exactly the highest quality audio gear you can get, so anything you can do to help that out is beneficial to your overall listening experience. Especially those amongst us with big flashy headphones. |
All the more reason for wanting a variable bitrate. Most people don't have gobs of space for music on their phones, but might still enjoy high quality mp3. VBR gives the best trade-off between quality and space consumption with mp3.
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GooberMan


Status: Offline Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 3682 $poons: 127.80 Location: Melbourne! Booyah.

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:42 am Post subject: |
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This is quickly needing another topic, but yes, we're not on the same page methinks. So before I crack open another topic (probably later tonight, it's almost bed time for me) I'll leave this screengrab I just grabbed from EAC:
And if you don't like those options, the command line overrides it. _________________
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G3ck0

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a Nokia 6120 Classic. The middle "select" button (or whatever you want to call it) has fallen off, and now the call/hang up button is falling off :\. I want to buy a Galaxy S2, but I'm currently with LiveConnected and they are so cheap compared to Optus that I can't imagine paying Optus' price for their plans anymore :\
Oh, not to mention the battery cover doesn't stay on, the sim card doesn't stay in properly (had to be sticky taped in), and the sim card gets disconnected if my phone gets bumped hard enough. So dodgy xD
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theory PALGN Moderator


Status: Offline Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 9112 $poons: 1275.00 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| GooberMan wrote: | This is quickly needing another topic, but yes, we're not on the same page methinks. So before I crack open another topic (probably later tonight, it's almost bed time for me) I'll leave this screengrab I just grabbed from EAC:
And if you don't like those options, the command line overrides it. |
I'm a VBR kind of guy also, EAC doesn't have a high enough VBR setting. 256 is good, 320 is better. Not sure why it's not giving you that option?
I guess 320 EAC is the same as 320 CBR, which is probably second choice for me.
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Furianshi PALGN Moderator


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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm probably wrong, but just looking at that, it looks like average bitrate and they've worded it incorrectly. If the variables are all customisable through command line only, what a pain in the arse just for mp3s when you can get other free software that'll do it through the gui.
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GooberMan


Status: Offline Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 3682 $poons: 127.80 Location: Melbourne! Booyah.

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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That's minimum VBR there. Not ABR. The GUI is a bit ghetto, but access to the command line inside the program is fantastic, gives you complete control without having to write scripts for it.
Now that I'm on Android, I'll be switching back to Vorbis again, which gives indistinguishable results at lower bitrates. _________________
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theory PALGN Moderator


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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Oh cool, if it's minimum bitrate then it should be more than fine at 192 VBR (possibly even overkill). _________________
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Smurf80


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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Blackberry Torch for me, no interest in Apple's offerings whatsoever but If the new Blackberry phones arnt using the new QNX os I may switch to Android as BB OS is a little long in the tooth. Having said that though my main reason for getting a BB was email and it does this flawlessly as thats primarily what BB's were built for. _________________
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Ciel


Status: Offline Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 1343 $poons: 514.40 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Currently using an iPhone 4, mostly because of the apps market. Lots to download, play around with and also partly cause I have a bit of credit tied up with iTunes.
Also doubles as my portable music player so I doubt I'll be switching to Android or Windows 7 phone. _________________
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Tsargrad


Status: Offline Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 2083 $poons: 3.40 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Well 2 weeks in with my android phone, and I think I made a mistake - shoulda stuck with the iphone I think. Oh well 102 weeks of contract to go. _________________
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Island_Wolf


Status: Offline Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 3126 $poons: 849.10 Location: Sydney

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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Android isn't for everyone, it does have a steep learning curve and the look and feel can take a while to adapt, especially between Android and iPhone. I hate to admit but now I even struggled to use an iPhone properly and I see my bf fails to use my Android. Just hold it out til the contract finished and then you can enjoy iOS 5 .
Still disappointed to not see widgets in iOS5 though, widgets is one of the reason why I chose Android over iPhone. (Other being I had an iPod Touch already and Apple still have yet to fix missing album art bug I have been waiting since last December). _________________ "Work hard now, play even harder later"
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pom013

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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:47 am Post subject: |
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I agree, I've had a few head scrachers using my sisters iPhone. Which droid did you go with and are you having a specific problem? _________________
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Tsargrad


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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:49 am Post subject: |
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I have the Xperia Arc.
No specific problems - I'm just so used to the iphone.
I will say, the android ebay app for keeping a track of
stuff selling is great though.
2000 posts! (I don't believe in starting a thread for it) _________________
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admeister


Status: Offline Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 13915 $poons: 983.60 Location: Melbourne

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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:47 am Post subject: |
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I'm using an iPhone 3GS, which I love. It's the best phone I've ever had, so handy for checking up on emails and the internet, plus there's heaps of useful apps. I use the Notes application all the time to help me stay organised. It's fast, and I find the touch screen really easy to use, so I like it a lot.  _________________
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Zhou


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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Its been 3 weeks? I think since my sgs2 and I got to say after you get past the initial teething problems of android (having been so used to iOS) I have to say I'm really digging it.
Flashed a custom firmware onto my phone yesterday and the amount of customisation options out in the wild is insane.
The only thing that I have bad to say about android at the moment is the lack of gift cards. iTunes cards are always on sale somewhere out there and currently I've got a fair bit of itunes credit. Luckily I have my ipad2 so just buying up games whenever its on sale and using that as my go to portable gaming device. _________________
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pom013

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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Zhou wrote: | | The only thing that I have bad to say about android at the moment is the lack of gift cards. iTunes cards are always on sale somewhere out there and currently I've got a fair bit of itunes credit. |
This is one of my main gripes as well, especially since PSN was hacked. My solution has been to buy a pre-paid master/visa card and use that for the android market. The only downside is that you have to buy the card for a few dollars, but you might think it's worth is to not have to enter your own bank/credit details. _________________
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Tsargrad


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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I've decided to go back to an iphone when my tax money comes in.
Be nice if I could find someone with a Spare iphone 4 that wanted to swap an xperia and some cash for the phone. Any good sites for this type of transaction? _________________
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Hyper the Metroid


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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Windows Phone 7 man here. Rockin' my HD7, which is pretty much now my child, haha. As somebody that absolutely loves fart-arsing around with Microsoft's .NET series of program development languages, having a bit of fun and making apps for personal use, it integrates well into that particular environment.
I am beyond pumped for Mango! _________________
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Island_Wolf


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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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+1 for getting a phone you would want to develop on . Because my work requires more Java than ASP/C# .NET lately, I have been more a Java developer (not an expert though, jack of all trades). _________________ "Work hard now, play even harder later"
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Tsargrad


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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Got an iphone 4 going again now.
So much more enjoyable to use. iTunes still is a resource killing program, but I'm more tolerant of it now. _________________
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Island_Wolf


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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Not as bad as before though. Apparently the amount of resources it now use up dropped.
Too bad I still wish there was a way to report musics they sell because some albums they mix up the songs and with the song title. If only they release the iOS5 now though, notification center <3 _________________ "Work hard now, play even harder later"
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