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Will be sad to see the Game Exchange go. On the whole, I've found the community here to be really friendly and trusting and it sucks that there are scumbags around who went and took advantage of that. It could be my imagination, but there does seem to have been a real drop in users there over the last couple of months (most noteably buyers). Hopefully we can still do giveaways once the Exchange is gone, at least.
I think the Exchange was the main reason I came to PALGN, but I've really come to enjoy the whole site a lot and there are plenty of reasons to stick around even if the Exchange is gone.
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Are the new signature rules very strict? For example the Steam card in my signature only slightly goes over the height dimensions by about 20 pixels or less :/ and I can't really adjust the height.
EDIT: Nevermind, I found a more compact one 
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Absolutely gutted at the demise of the Game Exchange forum. It was my most viewed website by far. That place was fantastic & definately this site's best asset.
Always the minority blowing it for the rest.
Like one of the other posters said, is it not possible to restrict use to people who have been with the site for a while & with a certain number of posts?
I think I'm going to cry.
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Wow such a shame some other/more alternatives couldn't be explored before getting rid of the game exchange altogether. It was always the first thing I would check when I came here but then I would look at other stuff. Not so sure I will bother to look at the other stuff now, certainly not as often anyways.
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This wasn't a snap decision, it was carefully thought out and has been discussed for some time. This was the eventual outcome though.
We knew that it would sit unfavourably with some, but we also think that the community helps drive this place, and the Game Exchange was adversely affecting that community.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Gutted.
The GE is/was the main reason I came here. I've made some great mates through it, and been able to acquire/sell/trade gear. It was the best part of PALGN.
I really dislike that it's going, and I understand that all pros and cons have been thought of, but getting rid of it completely? I know I won't be overly missed, but I think it may be time to move on. It really was my main draw to here.
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Yeah... Can't say that I'm too happy about the GE going. That forum helped to bring the community together in ways that most others lack.
I can understand the reason for closure, but there were other options. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
This is also something that probably should've been put to the people rather than a select few people behind closed doors.
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| kartanym wrote: | Would it be fair to suggest a private forum for long time users? I'm sure there are many of us here that have used the system for a long time that would make use of it.
Otherwise, smart moves all round. |
agreed , isn't there some way that the private forums can be brought back , i get why the decision was made but cant help but look and see that moderating at best was pretty piss poor at the last of it as it was pretty much left to the end user to deal with , cant see why the private forums couldn't be brought back for those with ether VIP status or those that have been signed up for more then 3 years it would be up to the end user then on a case by case invite system ? ether that or bring back the $spoon auction system
il miss the impact the GE has had on the economy.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Find alternative for Game Exchange instead of completely shutting it down.
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PALGN was founded when the IGN forums made changes that some users didn't agree with. In that same pioneering spirit, why don't you guys start your own website to replace the game exchange?
I suspect you will find it is not a very fun thing to do, however.
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| Crank wrote: | PALGN was founded when the IGN forums made changes that some users didn't agree with. In that same pioneering spirit, why don't you guys start your own website to replace the game exchange?
I suspect you will find it is not a very fun thing to do, however. |
I understand this logic.
I would probably subscribe to it if it weren't for this one facet...
| PALGN GE Rules wrote: | | 1) You are personally responsible for any transaction (sale or trade) that you participate in. PALGN only offers the means for interaction between users and offers no guarantee regarding the validity of any games available on in the Game Exchange. |
So if we as the users are responsible... Stop taking responsibility for us.
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| Fyuusii wrote: | | So if we as the users are responsible... Stop taking responsibility for us. |
Except when a sale goes bad or a user exploits the system people come running to the mods. The game exchange might have been community driven, but it still required an huge investment from moderators to keep the ship sailing smoothly.
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On paper yes, but that's not how the Game Exchange has really been done. It's been proven in the past that if it's left up to the community then it's lynch mob mentality time and personal information gets thrown all over the place.
We can't very well have vendetta's waged on the site and in terms of traffic, in the past the GE has allowed for many new faces to our site and we're very thankful for the people that have used it and then helped contribute to discussion elsewhere. That particular aspect has all but dried up though, the new users of the GE over the past six months has been paltry and trades in general are on a steady decline.
I know that I've said in the past that I will do my best to try and help people out, but really my best is the same that you can do (except I can also get an email address from an Admin, although so could anyone else), keep PMing until a reply is made, so maybe I'm part of the problem.
What the motivations for these changes in activity are remains unclear, however there's no denying that the Game Exchange isn't what it once was. Probably due to myself, or the vast amount of detrimental transactions in recent times.
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My god, I have never wanted to fart in your face more than now sin.
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The issue comes down to personal responsibility, which in this day and age is easily shunted by a person's inherent belief that "it'll never happen to me".
I've never once been done in the GE because I know what to look for and what appears "dodgy". I'm not the only one who picks up on these vibes either. People at PALGN aren't stupid, but when they do get stung, they need to accept that they did through mostly their own fault.
Maybe the market needs to be re-designed as a private or separate forum (with unique "sign-ups") and have that rule of "You do this at your own risk" shoved in the user's face at time of entry. With this, maybe selective criteria need to be employed for members to this unit. Understandably this is more work to get the ball rolling, but if it's rolled properly, the maintenance requirement would be minor compared to what it is now.
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| FalconDude wrote: | Game traders can always come over and use this forum.  |
+1000000
But yeah, I was one of the guys ripped off by RETRO-GAMER, but, I managed to get my money back. Despite that, I still think I'll miss the Game Exchange, even though I only really used it that once, as there are few alternatives around.
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Yeah the retro gamer scam was probably the breaking point. Which I understand. Really the guy had no trader feed back and many people, including myself, decided to trust him. It was our faults in a way, for trading with a new person.
If the owner and staff would reconsider keeping the GE with stricter rules. It would be great. I have sold and bought many games here and will definitely miss it.
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| Sin Ogaris wrote: | It's been proven in the past that if it's left up to the community then it's lynch mob mentality time and personal information gets thrown all over the place.
the new users of the GE over the past six months has been paltry and trades in general are on a steady decline.
however there's no denying that the Game Exchange isn't what it once was. Probably due to myself, or the vast amount of detrimental transactions in recent times. |
yea and if you go backwards in time its pretty much the same users passing said info around along with said members being almost identical ie " trouble makers"
Fyuusii is right on the money , that being said there were and still are users that looked dogey from the start and almost all of them turned out to be i mean its like watching paint dry - by the end you see the result and at the start you more or less no the outcome
paltry ? - some of them didn't even take the time to form a proper user name that should of been a big enough hint -
yourself or detrimental transactions ? pick one 
edit: just wanted to touch base with crank( cranks shaft if you will)
| Crank wrote: | PALGN was founded when the IGN forums made changes that some users didn't agree with. In that same pioneering spirit, why don't you guys start your own website to replace the game exchange?
I suspect you will find it is not a very fun thing to do, however. |
yes but theres quite a distinctive difference then , there and now , they were moving towards a subscription based model and more or less ruined a forum that was aimed at pal users IE we had to pay just to use our own forum , i see your point tho and that being said if a forum was made with a sole purpose of being a trade forum or just being spun out from PALgn in general and aimed at the public ? i don't think id be in any hurry to jump on that bandwagon or its ebay type scams that would no doubt crop up , palgn itself has more or less shown how to propagate a trade forum just as other forums have IE they started out as somthing else and then added a trade forum as an add-on for the " community " to test run the rest is history .
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| Sin Ogaris wrote: | |
Oh now I feel bad
I do understand though, there were several times where a few people went over the top taking things into their own hands, and a few members in particular really ****ed the exchange up for us, usually by selling a big quantity of items and not sending them for 2 months.
I guess if it really adversely affects palgn by taking it out, maybe you guys would consider putting it back in? I do appreciate the reduction in spammers of late, I don't mind the spammers that post porn, but those that sell nike air jordans are really giving me the ****.
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I know, perhaps each part of the forum can have its own WTB sticky, like say, if I posted in the thread something I wanted, and how much I was willing to pay, people could contact me via PM???? Music/DVDs can go in the entertainment forum, sega/amiga/atari can go in the general gaming forum.
Ah I don't know, anyway off to play Halo, I'm on holidays now weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Forum Changes + Other Matters [June 2011] |
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| James Varoutsos wrote: | Generalised Threads (Mega-Threads):
Moderators over the coming weeks will look at ways of locking or splitting threads which are simply a generalisation of any discussion to do with a fairly popular topic. We encourage that users move away from these threads and create new threads to do with a specific topic rather than continuing these threads. Again, rules still apply for creating trivial/spam threads. |
Does this mean an end to the incredibly pointless gigantic threads in PAL talk (ie the what makes you smile / what ticks you off / what makes you feel all funny in your pants ones)? That would be awesome if true, there never seems to be any activity anywhere on the forum but in these inane chit-chat topics, killing them off or restricting them somehow would be great... it'll never happen though.
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I'll admit that the Game Exchange was great...once upon a time, damn, that's why I signed up here in the first place.
But that's not the heart of PALGN. Video game forums are driven by discussion, fanboys and trolls. As long as they stay here, the site will still be a great place. Denny and Jarrod ain't going nowhere!
And in case you didn't know, there's another great place to buy games, it's called eBay. Just a thought...
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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VERY, VERY disappointed about the Game Exchange..
honestly, this will cut my PALGN time in half.
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To be honest, I'd probably miss the traders (the ones likely to leave), if they ventured outside the trading forum. I came into this thread to see a quite a few new users here, then I realised they are those strange trader forumers.
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Ive acquired harder to find things from here for a good price so thats why im pretty bummed over it..
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