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| Benza wrote: | | I know you've got a beast of a machine Denny, but any word on how well it scales for lower end systems? The first one seemed to scale **** horribly, chugging up on my pc that can run far newer and prettier games without a hitch. |
I know other people have said it scales very well but I'm going to have to say I really don't think it does. I bought a new card and im now waiting for it to arrive, but on my current card I can play almost everything else quite well on quite high settings, but I couldnt even play the Witcher smoothly on lowest settings in the lowest resolution. So unless mine is bugging out I think its a very demanding game.
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Ofcourse I would like to see CD Project make more money and continue to make great games. I do not want CD Project to tarnish their reputation in the pursuit of fame and glory.
Let me make it clear, if The Witcher on current gen consoles is released and it's great and doesn't damage the brand (of the game or company), then great. If not, then don't release it (which is what they did with the initial Witcher 1 port).
I would be seriously amazed if they can make the most of the PS3 or 360 and push out something that can stand with The Witcher 1 or 2 as a great game (technically speaking). And even if they release it on consoles doesn't mean it will be successful.
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| Cyph wrote: | Ofcourse I would like to see CD Project make more money and continue to make great games. I do not want CD Project to tarnish their reputation in the pursuit of fame and glory.
Let me make it clear, if The Witcher on current gen consoles is released and it's great and doesn't damage the brand (of the game or company), then great. If not, then don't release it (which is what they did with the initial Witcher 1 port).
I would be seriously amazed if they can make the most of the PS3 or 360 and push out something that can stand with The Witcher 1 or 2 as a great game (technically speaking). And even if they release it on consoles doesn't mean it will be successful. |
If CD Project deserve even half as much acclaim as they're getting than I'm sure they could put The Witcher on a console without damaging the brand or making it shit.
Having slightly lower resolution textures and worse lighting isn't going to damage the brand or ruin there reputation. If the game is as good as people are saying it should be able to thrive even without all the graphical bells and whistles.
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I agree, but Im not overly concerned about it. Its only a concern when there's a money hungry publisher looming overhead pulling the strings (see: BioWare's situation, and arguably Crytek).
Plus, as said, The Witcher 2 was developed with consoles in mind. I'm pretty sure the RED engine alone was developed in a way that would allow future porting to the PS3/360, as CD Projekt RED had devkits. If I recall correctly, they had an earlier dungeon sequence working on the 360. Plus, they reworked the control system to work better with a pad than The Witcher does. Hell, the were originally sprucing up The Witcher for consoles, but had to scrap it for lack of interest.
I'd put pretty good money on The Witcher 2 getting announced for at least one of the HD twins at E3, as I fully believe the devs had plans for it from day one. Considering how the game turned out on PC, I'm not worried about it going to consoles.
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As long as the Witcher 3 isn't like what Dragon Age 2 was to Dragon Age Origins 
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| PixieGirl wrote: | | Benza wrote: | | I know you've got a beast of a machine Denny, but any word on how well it scales for lower end systems? The first one seemed to scale **** horribly, chugging up on my pc that can run far newer and prettier games without a hitch. |
I know other people have said it scales very well but I'm going to have to say I really don't think it does. I bought a new card and im now waiting for it to arrive, but on my current card I can play almost everything else quite well on quite high settings, but I couldnt even play the Witcher smoothly on lowest settings in the lowest resolution. So unless mine is bugging out I think its a very demanding game. |
What is your current card? If it is older than a nvidia 9xxx series yeah it probably wouldn't work. Those cards are like 6 years old.
Have you updated your drivers to the latest, beta or otherwise? Have you updated your game with Patch 1.1? If you answered no, do it now. It can make a massive difference. My gtx465 was getting 10 fps until I installed the beta drivers.
Do you have Nvidia 3D Vision installed? Uninstall it. It causes problems for some people for this game.
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Have you guys heard? CD Projekt Red has said that at E3 they will announce something that is Witcher related but isn't The Witcher 2 for consoles. My guess is it will be The Witcher re-released using the RED engine. It would allow console players to play the first then released the second a month or two later. Maybe sell them in a pack, idk.
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| jesuslol wrote: | What is your current card? If it is older than a nvidia 9xxx series yeah it probably wouldn't work. Those cards are like 6 years old.
Have you updated your drivers to the latest, beta or otherwise? Have you updated your game with Patch 1.1? If you answered no, do it now. It can make a massive difference. My gtx465 was getting 10 fps until I installed the beta drivers.
Do you have Nvidia 3D Vision installed? Uninstall it. It causes problems for some people for this game. |
Im fully updated with drivers and I have The Witcher 2 latest patch from the auto-updater. No I don't have Nvidia 3D vision.
I am using a 9800GT. Yes it's not amazing but I play Battlefield Bad Company 2 on High settings bar a few options. I played Assassin's Creed Brotherhood at highest settings. Mass Effect 2 highest settings. These are just some examples of games i've played recently. I know The Witcher 2 is better looking than all these games but on lowest settings it looks awful and I still get horrible framerates, so that doesn't make any sense. It's the first game I have encountered that I havent been able to play nice and look nice. Interestingly on my setup theres very little difference in framerates from High or Low settings on The Witcher 2.
Anyway I'm just waiting for my new card to arrive and I'll finally be able to enjoy it I was going to update anyway, but it kind of sucks that I can't even begin to play this game, when theres really nothing wrong with my card, its only "low end" to gamers who need everything absolutely maxed out with framerates that don't move from 60. I think the game is just a bit buggy with older systems.
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| jesuslol wrote: | | PixieGirl wrote: | | Benza wrote: | | I know you've got a beast of a machine Denny, but any word on how well it scales for lower end systems? The first one seemed to scale **** horribly, chugging up on my pc that can run far newer and prettier games without a hitch. |
I know other people have said it scales very well but I'm going to have to say I really don't think it does. I bought a new card and im now waiting for it to arrive, but on my current card I can play almost everything else quite well on quite high settings, but I couldnt even play the Witcher smoothly on lowest settings in the lowest resolution. So unless mine is bugging out I think its a very demanding game. |
What is your current card? If it is older than a nvidia 9xxx series yeah it probably wouldn't work. Those cards are like 6 years old. |
I have an 8800 gtx and it works just fine on medium widescreen settings.
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| PixieGirl wrote: | | jesuslol wrote: | What is your current card? If it is older than a nvidia 9xxx series yeah it probably wouldn't work. Those cards are like 6 years old.
Have you updated your drivers to the latest, beta or otherwise? Have you updated your game with Patch 1.1? If you answered no, do it now. It can make a massive difference. My gtx465 was getting 10 fps until I installed the beta drivers.
Do you have Nvidia 3D Vision installed? Uninstall it. It causes problems for some people for this game. |
Im fully updated with drivers and I have The Witcher 2 latest patch from the auto-updater. No I don't have Nvidia 3D vision.
I am using a 9800GT. Yes it's not amazing but I play Battlefield Bad Company 2 on High settings bar a few options. I played Assassin's Creed Brotherhood at highest settings. Mass Effect 2 highest settings. These are just some examples of games i've played recently. I know The Witcher 2 is better looking than all these games but on lowest settings it looks awful and I still get horrible framerates, so that doesn't make any sense. It's the first game I have encountered that I havent been able to play nice and look nice. Interestingly on my setup theres very little difference in framerates from High or Low settings on The Witcher 2.
Anyway I'm just waiting for my new card to arrive and I'll finally be able to enjoy it I was going to update anyway, but it kind of sucks that I can't even begin to play this game, when theres really nothing wrong with my card, its only "low end" to gamers who need everything absolutely maxed out with framerates that don't move from 60. I think the game is just a bit buggy with older systems. |
That's weird. I know someone with the exact same card as you that is able to play it fine
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Might be something bottlenecking or causing problems there. Or hell, it could actually be the card.
Because I mean, the 9000 and 8000 series are pretty weak nowadays, but can still hold their own with modest settings.
Pix, lemme know when your new card arrives and how it performs.
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Pixie make sure you dont accidentally have Ubersampling enabled, i made that mistake at first haha (though it probably only enables if you select the "Ultra" profile)
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I installed the Catalyst 11.5b drivers and noticed a frame rate increased and a reduction in stuttering. The stuttering still occurs but not as much. Makes me wonder if it caused by some kind of memory leak as it is almost random when it happens (I've seen it happen on some more 'quiet' scenes as well as the hectic ones).
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anyone running this on a G73? defiantly keen to pick it up if my lappy can handle it.
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| Cyph wrote: | | I installed the Catalyst 11.5b drivers and noticed a frame rate increased and a reduction in stuttering. The stuttering still occurs but not as much. Makes me wonder if it caused by some kind of memory leak as it is almost random when it happens (I've seen it happen on some more 'quiet' scenes as well as the hectic ones). |
Try turning vsync off. It causes some problems like dropping frames and making the mouse super sluggish.
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| jesuslol wrote: | | Cyph wrote: | | I installed the Catalyst 11.5b drivers and noticed a frame rate increased and a reduction in stuttering. The stuttering still occurs but not as much. Makes me wonder if it caused by some kind of memory leak as it is almost random when it happens (I've seen it happen on some more 'quiet' scenes as well as the hectic ones). |
Try turning vsync off. It causes some problems like dropping frames and making the mouse super sluggish. |
Also if you're on a single card setup, try turning triple buffering on through something like RadeonPro of D3DOverrider. Triple Buffering will abolish most of the input lag that VSYNC gives but also retain its smoothness.
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Dont forget to check out the tweak and tips guide on NeoGAF. You can see it here. Of note, nVidia card owners should try uninstalling 3D Vision drivers. Apparently those are causing significant framerate loss on some setups, even if they're not used.
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| Denny wrote: | | jesuslol wrote: | | Cyph wrote: | | I installed the Catalyst 11.5b drivers and noticed a frame rate increased and a reduction in stuttering. The stuttering still occurs but not as much. Makes me wonder if it caused by some kind of memory leak as it is almost random when it happens (I've seen it happen on some more 'quiet' scenes as well as the hectic ones). |
Try turning vsync off. It causes some problems like dropping frames and making the mouse super sluggish. |
Also if you're on a single card setup, try turning triple buffering on through something like RadeonPro of D3DOverrider. Triple Buffering will abolish most of the input lag that VSYNC gives but also retain its smoothness. |
Thanks guys, I'll let you know how it goes.
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