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| admeister wrote: | | G3ck0 wrote: | | Its kind of been drilled into my brain that Nintendo consoles have lesser graphics |
That's not the case though. Up until the Wii, Nintendo consoles were always on the same graphical level as their competitors. A successor to the Wii with graphics better than those of the PS3 and 360 makes perfect sense. I look forward to seeing it. |
Oh I know, the Gamecube was easily my favourite console of the last gen, I played everything on it. Platformers, racers, shooters etc. But I'm not one to think back to how it was, only how it is now, so that makes me think that Nintendo consoles have lesser graphics. Even the DS didn't look as good as the PSP, or the 3DS as good as the NGP (whenever that comes out). Not that graphics matter, it's just the truth.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Looking forward to E3 to see what it has on offer.
The controller shown above looks great. Reminds me of those old single screen G&W games. Wonder when in 2012. January or October? Makes a difference.
Either way I won't be there day 1, but I will be eventually.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Yeah on the portable front Nintendo never produced a powerful system, and I'm glad they haven't because I still don't think its necessary for portables to be powerful. The only thing that kept the PSP going really is its strong number of quality IPs.
Anyway I'm kind of excited for this, but I don't want to get my hopes up. The wii is a great console and all, but I over hyped myself about it and now I can't play it at all.
And every generation, Nintendo always mention Console>Portable capabilities, and every time it fails. Please delivarrr Nintendo.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Jarrod wrote: | The GCN was a beast, arguably one of the most efficient consoles ever designed, but wasn't without it's share of problems. The TEV was (and still is for the Wii) arsey to program shaders for, and many developers had issues with how little RAM it had. Still, it could compete, quite easily with the other two systems, knocking off the PS2 while being edged out by the Xbox.
On the portable front Nintendo has always been a little bit behind. They've never had cutting edge portable systems, and other companies have always released something beefier.
I dont expect this to be much more powerful than the 360/PS3, but I hope for Nintendo's sake they put a bit more under the hood to future protect it for when the next Microsoft/Sony systems release, else they'll find themselves in another Wii situation. |
It's funny, though, how in this gen, and the one before it, the console with the least graphical oomph of the main competitors has been the highest selling (PS2 and Wii). I'm not sure how PSx compares to 64, though.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| sobriquet835 wrote: | | It's funny, though, how in this gen, and the one before it, the console with the least graphical oomph of the main competitors has been the highest selling (PS2 and Wii). I'm not sure how PSx compares to 64, though. |
PSX is the second best selling console of all time, while the PS2 is first. The Wii is the best selling Nintendo system of all time, and I'm pretty sure third on that list.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| sobriquet835 wrote: |
It's funny, though, how in this gen, and the one before it, the console with the least graphical oomph of the main competitors has been the highest selling (PS2 and Wii). I'm not sure how PSx compares to 64, though. |
The Nintendo 64 had better graphics than the Playstation. So for the three generations it has been this way so it is quite normal - though it helped that PS1 & 2 was released earlier than the competition. I'd say Nintendo will again the weakest graphically as i think they'll launch early-mid 2012 and Microsoft late 2013 and Sony early-mid 2014.
I actually surprised it'll be playable at E3 so that is why I think of the early 2012 release.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Just as long as it doesn't keep using the Friend Code system for online play...
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: |
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| rufati wrote: | | Just as long as it doesn't keep using the Friend Code system for online play... |
Friend codes are here to stay. As soon as you understand Nintendo's philosophy, right or wrong as it may be, the sooner you'll accept it.
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Can you add friends to the console itself now and vs. them in whatever game or do you still have to add them for each individual game?
Man I wish Nintendo knew how ineffective this code system is.
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I doubt there will be a new console from sony anytime soon. They arn't pushing the ps3 far enough yet, ps4 is at least 2015 away. Microsoft on the other hand have just released their upgraded version of the 360 but i'd say they are going to do a rush job because they will have the only console without 3D. We'll have a new xbox in 2013 and xbox 360 owners will get outraged when they announce the closing of support for the 360 at mid 2013. but everyone will somehow still find reason to buy a new MS system.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Again just rumor, but I would have to agree, this will be Nintendo's push into the downloadable content arena without any hassles to the end user, there is so much money involved in it now, they would be foolish to stifle anyones interest in it.
edit// info already posted in Ninty thread.
| Quote: | | According to gaming site 1Up’s Sam Kennedy, “there will be no Friend Codes” in Nintendo’s next console. |
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/04/wii-2-might-ditch-long-friend-codes/
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| Jarrod wrote: |
I dont expect this to be much more powerful than the 360/PS3, but I hope for Nintendo's sake they put a bit more under the hood to future protect it for when the next Microsoft/Sony systems release, else they'll find themselves in another Wii situation. |
The only situation they had here was third parties couldn't move games on it. I really don't think Nintendo fanbase *casuals* buys games. Even metroid OM bombed .. so even the hardcore didn't get into that.
EVEN if Nintendo gets their new console up to spec so it can handle tri-port (PS3/X360/CAFE) multiplatform ports .... do you really think any multiconsole owner would opt to buy a CAFE so they can play these ports? No one would. They'd just get it for their X360/PS3. This is a problem, Nintendo won't be able to get away from. Their casual base probably also won't bite and transition up to cafe.
That said, Finally HD games from Nintendo. I'll probably jump on when the new zelda releases but I seriously haven't enjoyed the wii at all. If CAFE can even uprez wii games so I can finally play them, I might consider getting one. I'll do a trade in of the wii and get it. Maybe I should pre-emptively trade it in for some trade in credit now.
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-1 for calling Nintendo's fanbase casuals, and suggesting we don't buy games. We would buy a blank disc if it had Mario's face on it.
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| Esposch wrote: | | -1 for calling Nintendo's fanbase casuals, and suggesting we don't buy games. We would buy a blank disc if it had Mario's face on it. |
I think THEMAN was partioning the Nintendo fanbase into casuals and hardcores; you're the latter Esposch.
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| grim-one wrote: | | Esposch wrote: | | -1 for calling Nintendo's fanbase casuals, and suggesting we don't buy games. We would buy a blank disc if it had Mario's face on it. |
I think THEMAN was partioning the Nintendo fanbase into casuals and hardcores; you're the latter Esposch. |
Touche. Thought he was just being a douche.
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| Esposch wrote: | | grim-one wrote: | | Esposch wrote: | | -1 for calling Nintendo's fanbase casuals, and suggesting we don't buy games. We would buy a blank disc if it had Mario's face on it. |
I think THEMAN was partioning the Nintendo fanbase into casuals and hardcores; you're the latter Esposch. |
Touche. Thought he was just being a douche. |
only if you're an illiterate nintendo fanboy I guess.
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| Esposch wrote: | | -1 for calling Nintendo's fanbase casuals, and suggesting we don't buy games. We would buy a blank disc if it had Mario's face on it. |
One of the biggest games that sold 4 million units on the wii is JUST DANCE2. Did you get it? Most other games don't sell.
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| THEMAN wrote: | | Esposch wrote: | | -1 for calling Nintendo's fanbase casuals, and suggesting we don't buy games. We would buy a blank disc if it had Mario's face on it. |
One of the biggest games that sold 4 million units on the wii is JUST DANCE2. Did you get it? Most other games don't sell. |
One casual game being successful doesn't make the whole console some casual waggle-fest. The XBOX 360 sold 10 million Kinects, for God's sake, and you can't call that a casual console.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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THEMAN - stop trolling.
Esposch - stop responding.
Let's get back to talking about the new console, thanks!
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I have a slight interest in how the SDK of Project Cafe will go about. In admeister's post on the other topic (picture of the screen shot of a slide), it mentioned portability from PC and 360.
I wonder, if any, the affect on Project Cafe's game library. Will this mean Project Cafe might have a more similar game titles to PC and 360?
Currently not really into hype mode but it will be interesting to read more about it nonetheless.
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| Island_Wolf wrote: | I have a slight interest in how the SDK of Project Cafe will go about. In admeister's post on the other topic (picture of the screen shot of a slide), it mentioned portability from PC and 360.
I wonder, if any, the affect on Project Cafe's game library. Will this mean Project Cafe might have a more similar game titles to PC and 360?
Currently not really into hype mode but it will be interesting to read more about it nonetheless. |
doesn't really mean much. The specs on the cafe finally mean that third parties can make games and tri/quad-port.
say: make a game with unreal engine 3: port to all 4 platforms (pc/x360/ps3/cafe). Before, the wii couldn't handle it.
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| THEMAN wrote: | | The only situation they had here was third parties couldn't move games on it. I really don't think Nintendo fanbase *casuals* buys games. Even metroid OM bombed .. so even the hardcore didn't get into that. |
Other M bombed because it was a trainwreck of marketing and shift in direction, doing a poor job of appealing to both the fabled 'hardcore' market and long time Metroid fans.
On the other hand, Prime 3 sold quite well, so I'm not sure what your point is.
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I wonder if this console is just another way for nintendo to shovel downloadable versions of nes and snes games? :P
But in all seriousness, i would consider purchasing a nintendo console again if it combined the great gameplay with non terrible graphics. Im no graphics snubs but cmon guys - 480p is a joke these days!
It will take some convincing for me to buy another ninty console at launch after the disgrace (yes i know its financially successful) of the wii.
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Yeah Other M was just a fail on Nintendos part, they tried taking the series in a direction that no-one really wanted it to go. Metroid is about the atmosphere, the gameplay, and the subconscious story.
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I think it failed for one main reason. They gave Samus spoken dialogue! If that doesn't alienate the fanbase, I don't know what will. Imagine if they did that to the next Zelda game. *shiver*
I think the connectivity between the 3DS and the Wii2 will be an interesting thing. I hope that Nintendo does something a little more exciting this time around, there wasn't much in the way of cross game support last time. We already know that we won't be seeing downloadable 3DS game demos any time soon though, which sucks.
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