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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes you should definitely play 1 first, it will help you get into the story more. Also, I believe there is a GOTY edition (not sure if its called GOTY though) for 1, which contains a bonus disc with some extra content on it, but I can't remember if it includes all the DLCs. The DLCs can be bought off LIVE for cheap price anyway if you can't find the GOTY edition. A number of GAME stores seem to carry them, so try there.
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The PS3 version has finally received the newest patch, and it looks like BioWare made a boo boo and accidentally included trophy details for an upcoming pack called "Arrival".


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Jarrod wrote:

The only stupid thing is the Turians and Humans not only talking fluently to each other, but calling each other by race name. Makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever, but whatever. Mass Effect is sloshy sci-fi and space poon to begin with, and Walters has already shown he'll disregard canon logic if he feels like it.

Didn't he grab a translator off the turian he captured?

Also! FEMALE TURIANS AT FUCKING LAST!

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Wait no just checked it they're just talking like normal. Yeah that's weird.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NEW DLC!

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oh yeah on the DLC

Only info I can find on Amanda Kenson

Cerebus Daily News wrote:

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Historians and astronomers alike are abuzz tonight over a new paper published by Dr. Amanda Kenson of the University of Arcturus. Her team claims that by testing the dust trapped in the gravity wells around a mass relay, and comparing its composition to that of dust clouds in the same system, scientists can create a timeline of when the relay passed through the dust. Her conclusion? “Only a small fraction of the mass effect relays date back 50,000 years,” she writes, “The majority are far older, indicating they were created by a species predating even the Protheans.” Dr. Aurana T’Meles of the University of Serrice met the information with skepticism: “While Dr. Kenson’s methods appear sound, the asari tried a similar procedure centuries ago and discounted it. What civilization could have spanned the galaxy for not thousands, but millions of years? If this were the case, we should have found mountains of evidence of their passing. Where is this species now?”


The details on the last stand achievment is to survive the charge guarding 'object rho'

My guess is that it's just named Rho as a letter of the greek alphabete. Rho can also mean different things regarding density, electric charges, mathamatics etc.
An interesting one though is in regards to molecular biology
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In molecular biology Rho represents a protein responsible for termination of RNA synthesis.

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So, Arrival previews are out, and there's a big Q&A at Giantbomb. It sounds...okay, but it's not going to be as good as Shadow Broker. Sounds very simplified.

It's also revealed what the main plot hook is this time, and how it relates to the Reapers. It's a spoiler, so I'll tag it with my thoughts on why its terrible;

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Apparently there is an 'Alpha Relay' that allows the Reapers to return and access any relay in the galaxy.

Great plot point BioWare! What a surprise that there's a rel-hang on a minute....THATS JUST THE CITADLE! I stand by what I've been saying for a long time now; BioWare blew their load with Mass Effect, and their writers (Walters specifically), as talented as they might be, are not capable of intelligently developing and expanding the story they created in a way that doesn't seem anything other than a cheap excuse. It's pretty goddamn tacky that the majestic way the Reapers are going to return is another Citadel-esque relay. It again significantly lowers the severity of the first game's story, and makes the whole Sovereign "We must leave a Vanguard to open the Citadel" thing obsolete.

This is a really lame excuse and I'm pretty damn disappointed. If they wanted to pull crap out of their arse they could have at least attempted something a bit different sounding. You know, collapsing a star with intense dark matter to create a wormhome. Something that is effectively the same deus ex machina nonsense, but at least sounds better than Citadel 2.0.

Bitter gamers and all that, but BioWare are really proving they're just not very good at writing stories like this. Mass Effect was great, and it seems near everything since has them flailing around with their heads cut off.

Way to invalidate your own series, guys.

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wow... ok you win Jarrod, that's fucking stupid.I was hoping they'd pull some shit that made sense with the reapers being a ridiculously advanced race but man.... nope that's just dumb. Any other info in that vid? I have no sound at work and can't watch it.
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Just finished Arrival. It was short (An hour and half max) but the story that was there was great. Also i wouldn't get so worked up about the Alpha Relay, as the DLC resolves the issue it created. While Arrival did what it said on the title, you might be disappointed as to how it turns out in terms of what you see.

Other then length, the DLC was really solid, intense and for me was as good as LOTSB (while others may disagree, this is just my opinion). For what it was, you could technically play ME3 without this but you would be missing on a hell of a ride and while it may not set up ME3 as thought it might before you play it, after you have played it and think about it, there are many new issues that the DLC raises and sets up ME3 nicely (mainly issues with the Baterians).

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I too finished it, but thought it was by far the weakest of the four priced DLC mission packs.

It had its moments, like all things Mass Effect, and actually had some pretty good twists, but I couldnt shake this "half-arsed" feeling throughout. The opening segment was really bland and not particularly engaging, and then the whole thing devolves into a really generic shoot-a-thon.

After that there's really one other area, and that too was just a mindless kill-a-thon. It wasn't bad, just weak and uninspired in my opinion. It didnt have many memorable set pieces or battles like all the other DLC. Just felt like another ME2 mission. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong that that, but I dont think it holds a candle to Kasumi, Overlord and Shadow Broker.

The story does have some good points though. The Alpha Relay thing isn't as big of a deal as I thought it would be (it's still stupid though). In fact, the whole Reaper thing isn't a big deal. In terms of 'bridging' the story, it seems to be setting up Shepard's place in ME3, not anything Reaper related.

The story also had some shitty points too. I laughed out loud at the start, when Hackett contacts you. He's all like "Shepard! We've discovered evidence of an imminent Reaper invasion". Shepards automatic replay? "Why contact me?". WELL SHIT I DONT KNOW.

EDIT: On reflection, with time to sink in, I'm definitely very disappointed with it. I really love my Mass Effect stuff but this was notably weaker and far, far less memorable than the other DLC. A pretty sad way to send off an awesome game and awesome line of DLC, in my opinion. I'd only recommend it if you're one of the crazy Mass Effect fans (like myself) who grab everything. Otherwise it's not really worth it, and you're better off watching a playthrough or reading it up.
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Guys, read joytiq's review of arrival. The reviewer slams it. Sometimes I just love to read negative reviews.

A shame I have already brought it but I suppose I would have brought it anyway. I have heard this was done by a new team which doesn't sound good for ME3. I know Brotherhood pulled off the multiple team thing but going by this DLC it might not turn out as well as that.
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Sounds like it's another Pinnacle Station type add on :S

I'll still get it since I'm a sucker for all things ME.
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Sounds like it's another Pinnacle Station type add on :S

I'll still get it since I'm a sucker for all things ME.


It's much better than Pinnacle Station, thanks to actually having some story and a couple of cool moments.

But yeah. As far as DLC goes, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're part of the 'must have' Mass Effect crew. Otherwise, it's weak and uninspired, and nto really worth the price of admission.
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Can't say I'm surprised, most DLC ends up disappointing me.
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well you're a negative nancy aren't ya.
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Any new weapons/armour etc? Assuming not since i havent heard.
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Just saying it how I see it Benza.
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Interestingly, Arrival can be played post-Horizon, which then can spoil Harbinger being a reaper, which wasn't obvious until the endgame. Didn't occur to me until after I'd finished the DLC, since like the majority of people buying DLC at this late stage, I've finished the main game many times over.
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Any new weapons/armour etc? Assuming not since i havent heard.


Nope

Honestly I didn't think it was that bad, it wasn't great but it was still fun. And it set up an interesting premise for ME 3 with the trial.
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Cool. Ive bought it, but in my current Insanity play through Ive just finished Shadow Broker Lair and have no choice but to go do the collectors ship....heard thats hard on Insanity icon_sad.gif
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It's quite hard. I usually do that early though to get the new weapon.
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When's the best time in the game to play this for people who have finished it?

I've started my final ME2 run recently, so is it an end-game thing, or what?
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yeah it's end game defintley. The story looks like it leads directly into in ME 3
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Had a crack at the new DLC last night and agree with most of what has already been said.

While, to me, more Mass Effect is always good thing, this new DLC episode did fall short of my expectations.

The attempt at adding in some stealth gameplay felt extremely half-arsed, which was also disappointing. At one point there was a guard looking straight at the hallway I had to cross. The area was well lit and there was no other way around. I thought, OK I'll have to wait until his back is turned. I waited and waited and he never moved, so I crossed directly in front of him and he didn't notice me! Come on, if you are going to add some stealth at least put some effort (and sense) into it!

I continued my game on Insanity, which adds a bit of length to these short DLC missions, and found the combat pretty challenging at times (currently stuck at the last part after dying twice last night before going to bed). Looking forward to giving it another go tonight.

Edit: Just finished it - seems the last part was not that hard afterall, finished it first go ... must have just been tired last night! haha
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