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 Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:26 am Post subject: PS3 shipments to Europe being seized... |
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Wow, might have to pick one up just in case...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/28/playstation-3-lg-legal-dispute
| Quote: | European customs officers have been ordered to seize shipments of Playstation 3s after LG won a preliminary injunction against Sony in an acrimonious patent battle between the two Asian electronics giants.
The ruling by the civil court of justice in the Hague means that all new PS3s have to be confiscated as they are imported into the UK and the rest of Europe for at least 10 days.
If the injunction was extended it could mean consoles disappearing from high street shelves. It is understood that Sony and computer games retailers typically have about two to three weeks' worth of PS3s in stock across the continent.
Tens of thousands of PS3s were seized by customs officers last week in the Netherlands, the Guardian has learnt, in a dispute that centres on Sony's allegedly infringing use of Blu-ray technology belonging to LG.
Sony, which imports around 100,000 of the consoles a week, is frantically trying to get the ban lifted. The Japanese company has the right to appeal to the European patents office.
LG meanwhile, could apply to the same patents office to get the 10-day import ban extended. Alternatively, the Korean company could apply for a court order to get the consoles destroyed but it is highly unlikely the court would grant a request to eliminate the warehoused goods.
LG argues that Sony PS3s infringe a number of its patents relating to playback of Blu-ray Discs. LG called for an investigation into the PS3's Blu-ray use in a filing with the US international trade commission earlier this month, and said it sought a "permanent exclusion order ... excluding entry into the United States" of the games console.
If Sony is found to have infringed LG patents, it could be forced to compensate the South Korean manufacturer for each PS3 it has sold around the world, which could cost hundreds of millions of pounds.
The two technology giants are involved in a complex web of seven separate patent disputes, with Sony also seeking to block shipments of LG smartphones to the US.
Rotterdam and Schiphol are the main import points for PS3s for both the UK and continental Europe. The consoles are being stockpiled in Dutch warehouses until it becomes clear how the case will develop.
A spokesman for Sony Playstation said: "We are currently looking into this matter, and cannot make any comments at this point in time." LG declined to comment, although sources close to the company confirmed the current legal position.
Sony has sold more than 3m PS3s in the UK since its launch in March 2007. The Japanese manufacturer is understood to have a stockpile of around 6,500 PS3s in Germany and 10,000 in the UK.
However, the majority of PS3 sales around Europe are pre-orders, meaning they are already sold before they gather dust at warehouses in the UK and elsewhere. Stockpiles could run out within two to three weeks if the ban is not lifted, the Guardian understands. |
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| Quote: | | LG argues that Sony PS3s infringe a number of its patents relating to playback of Blu-ray Discs. |
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| Quote: | | LG alleges the Blu-ray drives in Sony’s top-flight gaming console infringe on three LG patents—two related to how the drive pulls data off the disc, and another related to production of “multiple data streams” to handle several camera angles. |
It's pretty funny if you look at the dockets for the complaints....like two school kids slapping each other
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Docket No: 2785
Document Type: 337 Complaint
Filed By: Ralph A. Phillips
Firm/Org: Fish & Richardson
Behalf Of: LG Electronics Inc.
Date Received: February 4, 2011
Confidential: Yes
Commodity: Digital Televisions
Country: None
Description: Letter to James R. Holbein, Acting Secretary, USITC, requesting that the Commission conduct an investigation under section 337 of the Tariff Act of 1930, as amended regarding Certain Digital Televisions and Components Thereof. The proposed respondents are: Sony Corporation, Japan; Sony Corporation of America, New York, New York; and Sony Electronics, Inc., San Diego, California .
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| Quote: | Docket No: 2786
Document Type: 337 Complaint
Filed By: Richard A. Sterba
Firm/Org: Fish & Richardson
Behalf Of: LG Electronics, Inc.
Date Received: February 4, 2011
Confidential: Yes
Commodity: Electronic Devices Having a Blu-Ray Disc Player
Country: None
Description: Letter to James R. Holbein, Acting Secretary, USITC, requesting that the Commission conduct an investigation under section 337 of the Tariff Act of 1930, as amended regarding Certain Electronic Devices Having a Blu-Ray Disc Player and Components Thereof. The proposed respondents are: Sony Corporation, Japan; Sony Corporation of America, New York, New York; Sony Electronics, Inc., San Diego, California; Sony Computer Entertainment Inc, Japan; and Sony Computer Entertainment America LLC, Foster City, California.
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Docket No: 2787
Document Type: 337 Complaint
Filed By: Marcia H. Sundeen
Firm/Org: Kenyon & Kenyon
Behalf Of: Sony Corporation
Date Received: February 9, 2011
Confidential: Yes
Commodity: Display Devices, Including Digital Televisions and Monitors
Country: None
Description:
Letter to James R. Holbein, Acting Secretary, USITC, requesting that the Commission conduct an investigation under section 337 of the Tariff Act of 1930, as amended regarding Certain Display Devices Including Digital Televisions and Monitors II. The proposed respondents are: LG Electronics, Inc., South Korea and LG Electronics USA Inc., Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey.
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Looks like SONY was too busy fighting the wrong court battle and forgot about this one...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Tough times at LG.. better sue competitors.
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| dloiscute wrote: | | Tough times at LG.. better sue competitors. |
Wasn't this a counter case though? I thought I had read that SONY issued the first shot at LG, LG fired back.
Either way, this is a bad case to lose.
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Bahaha. Serves Sony right.
Soon is going to be the day when you get sued by Sony for using a non-sony universal remote on a Sony TV.
It's a shame because Sony used to be at the top, but with the way they have been treating there consumers, this will soon change. Give me a Samsung over a Sony any day.
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Yea, sony started it by suing LG for breaching a bunch of mobile patents, then LG fired back with a counter suite against sony over Blue Ray patents. It actually touches on that in the first post, | mexalix wrote: | | Quote: | | The two technology giants are involved in a complex web of seven separate patent disputes, with Sony also seeking to block shipments of LG smartphones to the US. |
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In the end they will probably agree to share their own patents in exchange for the use of the others and the whole thing will go away.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, I bet PS3 sales will spike for fear of not being able to get one ever again, this should be fun.....
ekkk or maybe not...
http://www.channelnews.com.au/Gaming/Industry/T4Q8J5H5
| Quote: | | Overnight the civil court of justice in the Hague has granted LG a preliminary injunction that will see all new PlayStation 3s imported into Europe confiscated by customs for at least ten days. LG has said that they intend to make similar applications in other markets including Australia. |
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Yeah, its a pretty serious defeat for SONY in the short term.
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| element465 wrote: | | Give me a Samsung over a Sony any day. |
Except for the fact that Samsung don't make a games console.
Why'd you be buying an LCD TV, I don't know. 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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haha serves em right.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it was never gonna last long.
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I think it was a summary judgement rather than a full blown court case, so speed was the main intention. LG didn't want Sony to have a chance to move its stock elsewhere.
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