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I bought the special edition VHS set back in the day; the original DVD boxset; and the separate releases with the original cuts on them. And I have copies floating about of the fan reconstructions of the original original cuts. I really don't need to buy them again.
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Mmmmmmmmmmmm, looks like this blu-ray release might finally make me watch Star Wars for the very first time. I guess I've always wanted to, but knowing pretty much every major spoiler has kept me from doing so. Bluray quality will probably sway me to watching episodes 4, 5, and 6 at least.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| mrcool37 wrote: | | Mmmmmmmmmmmm, looks like this blu-ray release might finally make me watch Star Wars for the very first time. I guess I've always wanted to, but knowing pretty much every major spoiler has kept me from doing so. Bluray quality will probably sway me to watching episodes 4, 5, and 6 at least. |
you mean to tell me youv never lived ? that just anit cool mr  , guess il double dip on the post production
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Eh, I must be the only person that thinks the original trilogy is just as bad/good as the prequel trilogy. It's not like they were ever the pinnacle of quality filmmaking.
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| GooberMan wrote: | | I bought the special edition VHS set back in the day; the original DVD boxset; and the separate releases with the original cuts on them. And I have copies floating about of the fan reconstructions of the original original cuts. I really don't need to buy them again. |
Your missing the point...its in HD, if you were a hardcore fan you would want them purely for experiencing the films in Blu-Ray. I've become used to HD and something as special-effect heavy as Star Wars deserves to be watched in it. Movies like Star Wars are the only movies that are even worth considering in Blu-Ray for me. I don't need to see Ben Stillers balls in HD, but epic movies like Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, 2012 etc etc are really spectacular.
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| Sin Ogaris wrote: | | Eh, I must be the only person that thinks the original trilogy is just as bad/good as the prequel trilogy. It's not like they were ever the pinnacle of quality filmmaking. |
I'm with you on the originals not being that great, they are average at best, but they never made me laugh at 'serious dramatic' moments.
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| Aussie XP wrote: | | Your missing the point...its in HD, if you were a hardcore fan you would want them purely for experiencing the films in Blu-Ray. |
O RLY?
The only movie watched more as a kid was Ghostbusters; I read Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy as it was released (ie I started reading them before I was a teenager) and continued reading the extended universe novels; I've bought the films several times as noted; and I worked directly on The Force Unleashed. You know what I want as a hardcore fan? The original unaltered releases on Bluray. That would make me buy them again. Until then, I have more than enough copies of the movies floating around.
And as a general film nut, 1080p of the original trilogy is just going to show off special effect snafus. I recently saw a 70mm print of Aliens on what is claimed to be the largest screen in the southern hemisphere (at the very least, it's the largest non-Imax screen I've seen). I've watched this movie an uncountable number of times. This time around though, I found myself being distracted by some of the technical limitations of the film that were exposed by such a high resolution print - namely, the first shot of the Sulaco's main deck wasn't a full set but had half of it projected on to a screen (giving an effect looking like the film was tearing); and Frost falling down the stairwell on fire finally had enough resolution that you could see the crew start to move in down the bottom to extinguish the stuntman right before the cut.
Given it took Lucas something like twenty-six years to finally colour Darth Vader's light saber after he killed Obi-Wan correctly, I'd most definitely prefer the original cuts to being told yet again that I'm buying the definitive version. Especially since he wants to convert them to 3D, and guess what format they'll be released on?
Hardcore enough for you?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| GooberMan wrote: | | since he wants to convert them to 3D, and guess what format they'll be released on? |
and i'll buy them too.
i'm mostly teasing - i agree with you on a lot of points, and have seen some films "upscaled" on cinema size to the extent that you see beyond what the artistic vision would've been - and completely ruins the "magic". the first Hellboy is the film that immediately comes to mind, when i saw it on an IMAX screen (i think it was IMAX - a larger screen/projector anyway..), the screen must've been about 10% larger than the final print view, as you could see the boom 90% of the film. it was simply shoddy decision-making in deciding to show it thusly.
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| ObsoletE wrote: |
there are definitely ways i'd improve the prequels though - first, and easiest, would've been have a consistent villain. Darth Maul was awesome, and then he died. this was a HUGE mistake in my opinion. Count Dooku should've been replaced Cyborg Darth Maul (that's from a Star Wars "What if?" comic series) and even Grevious could've been a further "evolution" of this. not only would it have been cool as hell, it'd have set up, through onscreen precedent, the procedure Anakin would've undergone to change from Hayden Christensen, to David Prowse.
to my mind, the "villain of the week" stance the prequels took diluted the darkside. i mean i guess i can understand not wanting to diminish Vader, but i think you needed someone to rival him, who would've eventually been defeated by him, rather than someone who was never as good.
there are other things i would've changed, but most of those changes actually become pretty much necessary, obvious, and solved if he'd only kept the single villain of the prequels. |
I've always thought this too. But what I find weird is the Mr Merchandising himself Lucas did what he did. I mean, I guess I understand the theory in principal - everyone like Vader, bought Vader toys, Vader bedsheets, Vader breakfast cereal, so why not make 3 more Vaders, but, like, one of them was an old man, and one was boring as bat shit. I can go and buy a Darth Vader toothbrush - would I buy a Count Dooku one? Would anybody? Anybody at all? A Darth Maul, who eventually got more and more decrepit and robotic (pro tip: you can sell a Darth Maul action figure, a Darth Maul cyborg legs action figure, and a Darth Maul cyborg action figure if you do it this way, too) would have not only made the movies a fair bit better without any real effort, but it also just makes sense from a 'George Lucas is a total hack only out to sell Ewok soft toys' perspective.
...also I would have totally changed it so Anakin becomes Vader at the end of the second episode, allowing for the 3rd episode to be about Obi Wan and Vader, not Obi Wan and Anakin, because seriously, who actually likes Anakin? But thats a much less 'easy' change.
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| Quote: | | who actually likes Anakin? But thats a much less 'easy' change. |
i do...
Seriously I'm amazed how much better Eppisode 3 is after watching The Clone Wars.
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| Benza wrote: | | Quote: | | who actually likes Anakin? But thats a much less 'easy' change. |
i do...
Seriously I'm amazed how much better Eppisode 3 is after watching The Clone Wars. |
I should really watch the Clone Wars at some point. In fact I haven't watched anything Star Wars other than the RedLetterMedia reviews for years, I really should watch them all again. Maybe I'll do it in Episode order, so once I power through the shit I just get the good ones at the end... or maybe I'll just keep pretending the prequels don't exist. Yeah, that'll do.
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I'm in agreement with RedLetterMedia and Kermode and a large percent of the populace in that the prequels are garbage, and that the focus on Anakin was particularly ruinous because A)It wasn't a story that needed three movies to tell and B) The story that was told wasn't told well. Why do I care about Anakin when he's the most annoying child in cinematic history in Episode I, a petulant, tempremental and murderous young man in Episode II and a naive idiot in Episode III. There's no tragedy in watching him fall to the dark side because nobody really liked him in the first place.
I'm sure Clone Wars is good, because the Star Wars universe/material always seems to fair much better in hands other than Lucas', with the exception of A New Hope. But then, you've all heard these points a thousand times already, so I'll shut up.
I will probably shell out for the Original Trilogy set on Blu Ray, unless the Complete Collection is really, really cheap on Amazon or something.
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| Sin Ogaris wrote: | | Eh, I must be the only person that thinks the original trilogy is just as bad/good as the prequel trilogy. It's not like they were ever the pinnacle of quality filmmaking. |
Many would argue differently. Star Wars 4,5 and 6 are superior to 1,2 and 3 by a fair bit, and they are also magnificent, with the series reaching it's peak at Star Wars 5 and the famous scene "Luke, i am your father" "Thats IMPOSSIBLE!" scene, it's a really memorable movie. It may not be the best movie in the world to everyone, but then again, everyone has different views. 
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| DancesInUnderwear wrote: |
I should really watch the Clone Wars at some point. In fact I haven't watched anything Star Wars other than the RedLetterMedia reviews for years, I |
Whatever you do don't judge it by that shitty movie thing with jaba the huts nephew and crap.
That was fucking horrible and turned me off the series. The show has kind of a slow build but it's pretty amazing when it gets going.
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it was nowhere near as good as the chewbacca christmas special
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| Benza wrote: | | Whatever you do don't judge it by that **** movie thing with jaba the huts nephew and crap. |
It was better than episode two.
But I might be biased. We got to watch them as separate episodes before the decision was made to throw it all together in a theatrical release.
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| GooberMan wrote: | | Benza wrote: | | Whatever you do don't judge it by that **** movie thing with jaba the huts nephew and crap. |
It was better than episode two.
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I said it was crap, not unbearable
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But I might be biased. We got to watch them as separate episodes before the decision was made to throw it all together in a theatrical release. |
Probably would have been better as individual episodes, still would have been weaker then the show proper though.
If you want to check out a pretty fantastic self contained episode track down the episode rookies from season 1, Jedi light focusing on a squad of clones. Fantastic episode and got me hooked on the show.
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Wait.... I totally thought the movie was just the little Cartoon Network episodes stuck together (or the episodes were the movie split up... or whatever). What order are they supposed to be watched in?
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| DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | Wait.... I totally thought the movie was just the little Cartoon Network episodes stuck together (or the episodes were the movie split up... or whatever). What order are they supposed to be watched in? |
Ah ok, see it gets confusing since there are two shows named Clone Wars.
There's the 2D one by Gendy Tartavosky called Star Wars: Clone Wars
Wich was the 5 minute eppisodes that put together make a continuous story. Amazing action but basically no plot.
I think that's the one you're talking about.
There's also the 3D one by Dave Filoni called Star Wars: The Clone Wars
This is the one I've been talking about, It started off with a movie that was three eppisodes put together. Then followed that up with 2 seasons of 22 eppisodes each. Each one half an hour long (Or 22 minutes or whatever they work out to be) And is half way through the third season. This one kept the action a lot more grounded then tartavosky's but has big plot arcs, tonnes of charecter development and does a pretty effective job of actually making you really care about all the prequal charecters. (Even Jar-jar is.... not entirley horrible) and is the one i'm talking about.
I'd reccomend them both, but if you want actualy story and charecters etc go for the 3D one, if you want to see Mace Windu punch an army of droids to death check out the 2D one.
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| Benza wrote: | | DancesInUnderwear wrote: | | Wait.... I totally thought the movie was just the little Cartoon Network episodes stuck together (or the episodes were the movie split up... or whatever). What order are they supposed to be watched in? |
Ah ok, see it gets confusing since there are two shows named Clone Wars.
There's the 2D one by Gendy Tartavosky called Star Wars: Clone Wars
Wich was the 5 minute eppisodes that put together make a continuous story. Amazing action but basically no plot.
I think that's the one you're talking about. |
Is this the one that came out before Episode III which made Grievous look like a bad ass and made me rush out and get a toy of him, only to then see the film and have him get all wheezy and have his ass kicked? Grievous my ass.
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I consider A New Hope to be the greatest movie I have seen. Empire was great. Jedi was good but would have been way better with no Ewoks.
The original trilogy as movies are horrible. Pacing was off, to much special effect, green screens and atrocious acting/writing. I do like the extended stuff that came out of them though so I can forgive them as in the end there just bad movies and didn't ruin the originals in any way.
One thing that almost destroyed my love of the originals is all the crap CGI in A New Hope especially Tatooine. Also Han shot first. Why go back and change stuff about a film?
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I'll go the complete collection for the extra features, I'm a sucker for that stuff.
I do have to say though, I have a soft spot for the prequels. There's some great stuff in between all the blah filler and bad acting (Slave 1 in Episode II, The pod race in Episode I, the opening sequence and ending battles in Episode III). If it had been one movie, with all that, it would have been a better experience. In fact, that might have to be a project, editing three into one ...
Anyway, the original trilogy will always stand apart from the rest. The Clone Wars series, however, has improved with each episode, and season 3 looks to be the most interesting yet.
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Priced for those of you interested
http://www.cnet.com.au/star-wars-blu-ray-confirmed-for-australia-339308862.htm
| Quote: | | Twentieth Century Fox has announced availability and pricing for the Star Wars saga on Blu-ray in Australia, with each set of trilogies available for AU$69.95 or both for AU$139.95. |
I can't say I'm familiar in relation to RRP and prices in which JB and other DVD places charge.... I assume it's basically the same as video games? So JB will have it for 120ish?
Also according to RRP it turns out 5 cents cheaper if you buy the trilogies individually.
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