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| Fallout: New Vegas Review by Adam |  | | PALGN Review: At least it's not Rock Vegas. | | [View Article] |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Seeing reviews for this game reminds me that I'm still yet to play Fallout 3. I might actually get around to it once my holidays start, but I've already got a bit of a backlog.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent review. I think I should be able to get past the older graphics and lower immersion to still enjoy the game. Looking forward to picking it up at some point.
| PALGN wrote: | | the game does not allow you to continue playing past the ending |
I wonder why they did this after F3 remedied their mistake. I guess they want another guaranteed selling piece of DLC to extend the finale.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| grim-one wrote: | | I wonder why they did this after F3 remedied their mistake. I guess they want another guaranteed selling piece of DLC to extend the finale. |
According to Obsidian the nature of the plot and the ending made more of an impact with the freedom to 'end' the story, due to the way you deal with the various factions and how they develop. They probably didnt feel that they could have players continue exploring the wasteland with significant changes occuring.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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What point in the game is the point of no return?
Like where the game won't let you do any more side quests for the sake of the main story.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| element465 wrote: | What point in the game is the point of no return?
Like where the game won't let you do any more side quests for the sake of the main story. |
Obsidian said that the they made the point of no return very, very obvious and pretty much impossible to miss. You should be able to tell when you're at that point.
They also said that the game will save before you actually go past this point, and upon finishing the story prompt you to load the save to continue the adventure.
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Awesome, thanks Jarrod.
Exactly what I wanted to hear.
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Just a comment, how was Fallout 3 revolutionary? I can see the examples you've given, but they don't make a lick of sense to me.
I'm sold on the "if you like Fallout 1 and 2" comment though, it has been far too long since a DEEP western RPG has been released.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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I hate when reviewers say deep. No offense Adam but deep has gone the way of the dodo bird.
Anyway looking forward to this and can't wait till tomorrow.
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| Sin Ogaris wrote: | | Just a comment, how was Fallout 3 revolutionary? I can see the examples you've given, but they don't make a lick of sense to me. |
I might come off as a bit of an F3 fanboy, but it's the only game I've ever given a 9 to on this site, and the revolutionary factor for me was the immersion which I keep bringing up. I can certainly understand if others don't feel this way, but to me the quality of Fallout 3 set a pretty high bar for other RPGs that followed.
Or you can chalk it up to me saying baseless and unfounded things in my reviews. I have a habit of doing that.
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Been playing it since the US launch, just as fun as Fallout 3 was. One thing I like is that you're just a regular joe, it's not like you're some fabled hero or one of the elite vault citizens or anything. And the world is a bit less forgiving than Fallout 3 too, so the atmosphere feels really... real, and you're coping to survive in it sort of thing.
Ran into a couple of problems, like some guys just standing around letting me free the hostages they had taken... "shouldn't you guys be shooting at me?!". But for the most part it all works pretty well.
I should warn people though- MAKE REAL SAVES. Don't trust the quicksave, every time I boot the game, it resets my auto and quicksave to one that happened about 40 minutes into the game, not the 8 hours or so I'm at now. Maybe it's because I'm playing in offline mode (since the game isn't out yet...) but yeah. Quicksave/load works fine during gameplay, but I have to remember to make a real one when I quit.
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Okie Dokey, I can accept that, personally FO3 was a massive disappointment for me but I know I'm in a minority.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Can't wait for the GOTY ed next year!
by that time I should have finished Fallout 3 (I hope)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Already got this waiting for me on Steam.
And all I have to say about that is F*ck You Atari! First you charge me $40 more then the US version then you make me wait 2 days longer.
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why nothing about the hardcore mode in the review? That I'm interested to hear about.
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^I have to admit, I didn't try it as the game was long enough/tough enough already for me to play through and form an opinion about it.
It doesn't seem like something I'd enjoy, although I guess if you're really looking for something super challenging then go full steam ahead.
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I hope I can play hardcore in conjunction with an easier difficulty. I'd like the extra immersion without the butt hurt!
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| moonhead wrote: | Already got this waiting for me on Steam.
And all I have to say about that is F*ck You Atari! First you charge me $40 more then the US version then you make me wait 2 days longer. |
Steam version was US$50 when it first went up for preorder, I think I preordered it like August? Only in the last month or two it went up to US$90.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| Mr Waffle wrote: | | I should warn people though- MAKE REAL SAVES. Don't trust the quicksave, every time I boot the game, it resets my auto and quicksave to one that happened about 40 minutes into the game, not the 8 hours or so I'm at now. Maybe it's because I'm playing in offline mode (since the game isn't out yet...) but yeah. |
Strange, I heard the solution was to play in offline mode because it is a Steamcloud related problem. Eh, it is Obsidian, always going to be a few bugs.
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| Sin Ogaris wrote: | | Okie Dokey, I can accept that, personally FO3 was a massive disappointment for me but I know I'm in a minority. |
Yer.. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a "massive" disappointment but I played it through once, tried to replay as an evil character and quickly got bored. It just didn't feel like any of my choices were making much of a difference other than the first "big" difference you make right at the beginning.. seemed I was set to do the same missions as the first but for a different master etc.
The game just didn't capture that "play it however you want and suffer the consequences" feeling from the original. I played Fallout 2 multiple times from multiple angles and enjoyed each playthrough because it resulted in many different outcomes.
Can anyone say that Vegas is able to be played from multiple angles?
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| el_rezzo wrote: | | Strange, I heard the solution was to play in offline mode because it is a Steamcloud related problem. Eh, it is Obsidian, always going to be a few bugs. |
Yeah, I laughed when I read that advice- I already was playing in Offline!
But anyway, the game is "released" in Australia now, so I've gone back online. Was greeted by a 205mb patch that didn't fix the save issue. Missed out on some steam achievements but eh, they don't mean anything to me (compared to my addiction for Live ones, anyway).
| light487 wrote: | | Can anyone say that Vegas is able to be played from multiple angles? |
I'd say definitely, yes. About 12 hours in and I'm playing as the "good guys" at the moment and hence the "bad guys" hate me, so I can't go to their camps, do their quests etc. I imagine it's the same way around if I sided with the bad guys. You get the chance to do it very early in the game, and lots of them since.
There was an interesting dialogue where I was asked my allegiance, and I had all sorts of options- "I do what the NCR needs to be done", "I do it for myself", "I do it to keep the peace", etc. I could really feel the choices I made would come up later on in the game.
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wondering, fallout 3 was my first real fallout experience and I didn't really dig it. Is this the kind of game that would change my mind or should I just lump Fallout into the "I don't see the big deal" pile with MGS?
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| Benza wrote: | | wondering, fallout 3 was my first real fallout experience and I didn't really dig it. Is this the kind of game that would change my mind or should I just lump Fallout into the "I don't see the big deal" pile with MGS? |
You shouldn't be basing the Fallout franchise on Fallout 3.
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I found Fallout 3 boring and stagnant; it never managed to pull me in or excite me. Also, it lacked that flare found in Fallout 1 & 2. From everything I've read about Vegas, it's more like the originals, which suits me just fine.
Is the Gamebryo engine dated? Yes, remarkably so. Was it dated in Fallout 3. Yes. So should Vegas by penalised because of it, any more so than what Fallout 3 was? No. Enjoy the game for what it is (but by all means still complain that the tech behind it hasn't gone anywhere since Oblivion).
Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed Obsidian's Alpha Protocol, which is one of my personal GotY contenders, so I'm eagerly looking forward to some old blood working back with the Fallout franchise.
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| Cyph wrote: | | IĂ¢â‚¬â„¢ve read about Vegas, itĂ¢â‚¬â„¢s |
Eh? what IME are you using to input? 
A trademarked apostrophe that doesn't even look like an apostrophe
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