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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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#1 - Without a single enemy who could easily top Trinity right away, there will be multiple "big bads" this season.

#2 - There will be no time jump. The premiere episode will not pick up months later, it will take place right where we left off at the end of last season. The reasoning is so that we can watch Dexter fully deal with the aftermath of Rita's death AND give ourselves, the viewer, a chance to grieve for Rita as well.

#3 - It doesn't seem like there will be any love interests for Deb this year. All she wants to do is rid herself of the "ghost" of Lundy.

#4 – Julie Benz will appear in one episode this season but will NOT be brought back as a Harry-style ghost.

#5 – Star Michael C. Hall is excited about this new season because it acts like a "new origin story for Dexter. Except this time Dexter's got blood on his hands."

#6 – A big part of this season will deal with how Rita's untimely death affects Astor and Cody.

#7 – According to Hall, Dexter ain't looking for love any time soon. "I don't think Dexter is really looking to replace Rita or looking for someone to have a new intimate relationship with," Hall explained. "I think, at least in his consciousness, that door is closed."

#8 – No big specifics on who guest stars Julia Stiles or Jonny Lee Miller will be playing, but this does mark Stiles' first foray into TV. Also, the cop that Peter Weller will be playing was originally named "Weller" so they had to change the name when he was cast. Stiles' character also will also become "intimate" with Dexter and then, by accident(?), witness him doing a dark deed.

#9 – Dexter will explore serious guilt for the first time in his life, even if he's not readily able to identify it as such. "There's an undeniable sense that Rita's blood is on his hands," Hall told the crowd in attendance. "When he says 'It was me' to Deb after the murder, he's confessing to his part in having it happen. He's motivated by a desire to make amends for that. Even if he doesn't even know it at the beginning of the season. "

#10 – Being a single father now, Dexter will enlist the aid of a nanny, and Deb herself to help care for his three children. They all move back into Dexter's old apartment. And although Deb feels a connection to Dexter that she's never felt before because both of them lost their loves last season, she discovers that they both grieve in different ways
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Might be a few spoilers in there for those that haven't watched last season yet...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Indeed there are. Dexter's one of my all-time fave shows. Looking foward to watching season 4 myself.
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So What did you guys think of season 5's first episode?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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played out almost exactly like i expected.

the only thing i didn't expect, was
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Dexter killing the dude in the bathroom. i expected him to snap, but i expected his rage/frustration/whatever he was feeling to be directed at his office, or his boat, or something inanimate, rather than something that may lead back to Dex in some legally repercussive way. i just hope that this guy doesn't end up being the loose ending that the series hinges on.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Astor's reaction to the news was not very believable, I doubt a kid would be so angry and accusing (and relatively calm) 2mins after getting that news.

Apart from that, was good!
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Shoula killed the kid actors and the parent actors. In a car crash. Next episode

Mum died. Murdered by a a serial killer

And they couldn't muster up some grief, tears and snot?

Underwhelming sendoff to Rita. The daughter actress was terribad...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Glad to have Dexter back.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Should have hit the ground running and instead was shockingly weak.

Really, really disappointed.

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I've been extremely forgiving of how convoluted and silly the series can be, because I love the dialogue, acting, character writing, and pacing of pretty much all the seasons. So naturally I was pumped as hell for this.

It should have hit the ground running, and instead was one of the weakest episodes in the entire bloody series. Fucking hell I am so disappointed.

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It was so unconvincing in pretty much every way. Not even crazy Dexter antics unconvincing, but instead completely retarded.

- Deb. What the FUCK? Her character has been emotionally driven with heavy reactions to events, especially personal ones. Her character was so bland and flat. Despite having a history with Rita longer than Dexter her reaction was almost as emotionless as Dexter.

- Deb and Quin fucking. Shoehorned garbage. I know that it happens when some people are grieving, but it was tacky as hell. Screwing on the kitchen floor after mopping up Rita's blood, in the house she was murdered? Give me a break.

- Reactions from the kids and grand parents. I know the focus was on Dexter in that scene, but it was still extremely weak. YOUR MOTHER IS DEAD. SHE HAS BEEN MURDERED. "What? Oh no! Dexter you are so terrible I hate you so much!"


Man, I am so bummed. It had its moments but they were few and bar between, and was otherwise so damn flat, bland, unconvincing, and tacky.

And this is coming from someone who thinks that even the convoluted plot of Season 2 and the slow middle of Season 3 still made for fantastic television with well written dialogue and great acting.

One of the weakest premieres, based on my expectations, I've seen in a very long time.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Should have hit the ground running and instead was shockingly weak.

Really, really disappointed.

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I've been extremely forgiving of how convoluted and silly the series can be, because I love the dialogue, acting, character writing, and pacing of pretty much all the seasons. So naturally I was pumped as hell for this.

It should have hit the ground running, and instead was one of the weakest episodes in the entire bloody series. **** hell I am so disappointed.

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It was so unconvincing in pretty much every way. Not even crazy Dexter antics unconvincing, but instead completely retarded.

- Deb. What the ****? Her character has been emotionally driven with heavy reactions to events, especially personal ones. Her character was so bland and flat. Despite having a history with Rita longer than Dexter her reaction was almost as emotionless as Dexter.

- Deb and Quin ****. Shoehorned garbage. I know that it happens when some people are grieving, but it was tacky as hell. Screwing on the kitchen floor after mopping up Rita's blood, in the house she was murdered? Give me a break.

- Reactions from the kids and grand parents. I know the focus was on Dexter in that scene, but it was still extremely weak. YOUR MOTHER IS DEAD. SHE HAS BEEN MURDERED. "What? Oh no! Dexter you are so terrible I hate you so much!"


Man, I am so bummed. It had its moments but they were few and bar between, and was otherwise so damn flat, bland, unconvincing, and tacky.

And this is coming from someone who thinks that even the convoluted plot of Season 2 and the slow middle of Season 3 still made for fantastic television with well written dialogue and great acting.

One of the weakest premieres, based on my expectations, I've seen in a very long time.


I actually agree with this completely, like I get the episode was supposed to be 'awkward' but it was just way to awkward, and just felt wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just some of my thoughts about the first ep:

>>>SPOILERS<<< wrote:
Am i the only one who got excited about the possibility of him running away and starting again???? Maybe once he clears his name he could do that but i feel it would really be stretching this series. I was hoping they would stick to the last seasons formula and get someone unexpected to play the next bad guy...

IMHO i can just see this being dragged out with family commitments and being chased by Quin

Your right tho Jarrod that sex scene felt like it was put in for the sake of sex aka underbelly. Yeah also the reactions of the kids were obvious of course they were going to blame him he wasn't crying at all (which i am sure they were going for that since he is a sociopath).

Maybe i had to high hopes cause of how much i enjoyed John Lithgows performance.

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I agree what people are saying that the episode wasn't great. But it is the first in a whole new series so I am sure it will pick up icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Watched the first two episodes last night. Pretty sloppy start to the season.

The show is starting to feel like a shadow of it's former self. 5 years in and the lengths it's having to go to to create fresh and interesting places for it's characters to go is starting to feel ominiously close to 'shark jumping' territory.

The episodes themselves aren't nearly as tightly scripted as I remember and jump all over the place to stories that just don't have that same appeal as episodes of the past. Who honestly gives a shit about the LaGuerta/Batista story? Why is Masuka still getting air-time? Quinn is the only side character I'm interested in and that's only because they're grooming him into Doakes 2.0.

More disturbingly though, I'm completely at a loss for where Dexter is as a character. Is he still an emotional void? Has he abandoned the Code of Harry completely? What has having a child done to him exactly? I'm pretty confused about all of this and it feels like maybe the writers aren't entirely sure either.

The show hasn't completely lost me, and it still does deliver on a less demanding level, but the novelty is wearing thin and I'm starting to wonder what it's going to take to bring it back to grade A television.
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Hey Capoeira did you excited at episode one when:

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He said he was going to run away. Now that i think about it i really wished it would of happened.... Or is it just me....

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No it's not just you Marston. It was weak all round. I was hoping they'd take an alternative path for Dexter, but nope, completely predictable. Bad writing in ep 1. Don't know if can be arsed watching anymore. For me it jumped the shark back in season 3.
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We need to remember that it's based on a set of novels that jumped the shark themselves. They went all supernatural, and it was complete bullshit. It's almost to be expected that the series will end up just as lost.
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Hey Capoeira did you excited at episode one when:

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He said he was going to run away. Now that i think about it i really wished it would of happened.... Or is it just me....

Not just you. That felt like the shot in the arm the episode needed but it didn't pan out did it? There was also him beating the guy to death in the restroom which frustratingly ended up amounting to nothing.

Yeah, those two false starters may have set the tone for the season for me.

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We need to remember that it's based on a set of novels that jumped the shark themselves. They went all supernatural, and it was complete ****. It's almost to be expected that the series will end up just as lost.

Dexter in the Dark right? Well now that it's been revealed that there's a death cult in town, this could be the season that sends everything over the edge.

I should probably note that I didn't mind all that supernatural stuff in the book, but if that's where we're headed with the series, I'm not sure I'll have the stomach to follow. I seriously doubt they'll go there though.
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I have finally seen the second episode and i must say:

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It was a lot stronger episode then episode 1. The kids going with the grandparents was a godsend move cause now dexter is sort of free to do his "business".

Am i the only one who thinks the new killer is the police lady who said this is my area. I really hope Quin keeps up with the dexter hunting to cause i have always enjoyed dexter being chased.

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Am i the only one who thinks the new killer is the police lady who said this is my area. I really hope Quin keeps up with the dexter hunting to cause i have always enjoyed dexter being chased.

Yeah, seems pretty likely from the amount of coverage she got, although she's probably not the only one. I predict a whole bunch of 'Big Bads' this season. She's super hot though so more of her is ok with me icon_razz.gif

Also, wtf at the magical blood spot. Once was stupid, twice is just insulting.
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Episode 2 was a good step up from Episode 1, but the season is still flat. It's retreading old ground. I like Quin, but I dont buy the whole Doaks 2.0 crap, and while its great that Dexter is free to do what he wants they've kinda just gone back to where he was season 1. And everything still feels weak coming off such a powerful ending in season 4.

Oh well. I've been loyal to Dexter so far so I'll keep watching, but depending on where this season goes it could be the shark jump that stops me watching. If it takes the cult thing anywhere near Dexter in the Dark that will be it.
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I was a lot more satisfied with episode 3, some real developments came out of it.
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Yep, episode 3 was a marked improvement.

The problem with those first two episodes was that they were essentially burdened with clearing the path for Dexter to be himself again. They just happened to do a really poor job of it.

Now that all that excess baggage has been taken care of, it's back to being a decent 40 minutes of television. The only problem there is that this significantly cheapens the impact of [Big S4 Spoiler]Rita's death[/SPOILER] which at the time was pretty f***ing huge... Whatever, keeping giving that gorgeous cop screen time and I'll be happy.
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Have only seen the first 2 episodes so far and hated them. So boring. *small spoiler up to ep2*And did anyone think that the sketch of 'Kyle' was too obvious? I mean wouldn;t anyone have worked out that it was Dexter in the first second they saw it.
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My hopes are raised for the season. Two great episodes in a row.
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I starting to get the feeling that this death cult has it's fingers in everything. I'm almost positive that they had something to do with that girls kidnapping. The kidnapper Dexter killed said something like, 'You don't know what you're getting into', which tells me it's a lot bigger than it seems. I might be the only one who thinks that motivational speaker is linked somehow though...

C'mon, I'm allowed one crazy prediction.

I'm liking where the season is heading. Also, it was damn hard to make out Julia Stiles under all that. That was an 'Oh Snap' moment.
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