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| GooberMan wrote: | What I'd really love in a Rockstar game is if they dropped their daytime-soap convention of repeating the plot every **** cutscene. It's pretty much the only gripe I had about RDR.
I also yearn for another GTA1-esque game show style game. Crackdown was the closest we've gotten to that this generation. And who'da thunk it, but the same designer was involved. |
So frigging true, although it isn't just in cutscenes. Every time I was riding around with someone on horseback to a mission Marston would still ***** and moan about the exact same crap he ******* and moaned about 5 seconds ago.
We get it, you all hate city folk, does it really need to be mentioned every five frigging minutes?
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i wouldnt even mind if this was to be a san andreas hd version or something like that.
i think i have played san andreas about 5 times, absolutely loved it, seems like im in a very small group of people (here atleast)
but if its gta V in san andreas i would be extremely happy aswell, aslong as there is the poker machines in the casino's and then the mob that chases you down if you owe money.
so san andreas in any way shape or form and i will be a happy man.
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EY NIKO WANT TO SEE BIG AMERICAN TITTIES?
NIKO BROTHER LET US GO BOWLING EH?
TITTIES NIKO BOWLING TITS?
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I consider myself one of the lucky ones who somehow managed to beat the odds and enjoy the hell out of the GTA IV. When the next GTA game is revealed all the haters will come around again. Mark my words; resistance will be futile!
GTA: San Andreas is quite possibly my favourite game ever so this news is good news for me. That said, the location itself isn't the only thing that defines a GTA game so I'm not sure if it's worth getting excited about this.
If the rumoured city was New Orleans on the other hand, I'll sign over my soul right now.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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I too loved GTA4, and I really didn't like any of the previous ones. Will definitely be looking forward to seeing what GTAV is like.
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| Cian wrote: |
Blasphemy, I would NEVER say that... |
sorry, my edit skillz failed me.
Niko Bellic says "not bad' 
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| RichieT23 wrote: | | I doubt that they would set it outside of the United States... |
Yes, exactly right. At its core, the (3D) GTA games are a satire of American consumerist society, something everyone gets.
I don't really mind too much which direction the series takes. I reckon they both can co-exist.
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| Capoeira wrote: | | I consider myself one of the lucky ones who somehow managed to beat the odds and enjoy the hell out of the GTA IV. When the next GTA game is revealed all the haters will come around again. Mark my words; resistance will be futile! |
Doubt it. Loved GTA IV's technology, but in terms of being a gritty crime drama it felt so inferior to Mafia, a game considerably older, which is ironic as I was originally really excited for GTA IV for those changes.
But, you know, to each their own and all that.
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I can't believe so many people are calling themselves Rockstar fanboys but hating on GTA IV. I don't understand this idea of how liking it is "beating the odds", considering it's the highest rated game of this generation; if we're talking objectively, you're in an incredibly vast minority if you dislike it. By all means express your own opinions on it, whatever they may be, but you gotta recognise that it's generally considered the best in the series.
As for me personally, it's still my all-time #1 game, by such an unbelievable margin. And I also loved San Andreas crazy-much, so a whole game with a Vinewood storyline is getting me so psyched.
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| Gtpod wrote: | | I can't believe so many people are calling themselves Rockstar fanboys but hating on GTA IV. I don't understand this idea of how liking it is "beating the odds", considering it's the highest rated game of this generation; if we're talking objectively, you're in an incredibly vast minority if you dislike it. By all means express your own opinions on it, whatever they may be, but you gotta recognise that it's generally considered the best in the series. |
I really don't think its an "incredibly vast minority", even if it is a minority, and it shouldn't be any surprise that people don't think its the best.
Fact of the matter is that it changed the tone and style of the franchise. For some people, that was a great thing. For others, it was a direction they wished the franchise had never gone it. Both are equally justifiable stances.
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| Gtpod wrote: | | I can't believe so many people are calling themselves Rockstar fanboys but hating on GTA IV. |
how many Nintendo fanboys liked Wii-music?
Just cause you're a fanboy doesn't mean you have to mindlessly suck at the teat of the company for every single thing they shit out.
GTA 4 committed the worst crime I can think of in any form of entertainment.
It was boring.
I can get behind technically flawed games with a great idea like overlord, I can get behind just flat out bad games that are so ridiculous you have to laugh like demolition girl.
But if a game's just boring then that's pretty much the worst thing it can do.
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| Jarrod wrote: | Doubt it. Loved GTA IV's technology, but in terms of being a gritty crime drama it felt so inferior to Mafia, a game considerably older, which is ironic as I was originally really excited for GTA IV for those changes.
But, you know, to each their own and all that. |
For me, it was the game's technical achievements (and the benefits of that) which quickly drew me into the game's world, not the story. The story itself was largely forgettable with a few high points that hit the right marks, but I still think it did a decent job of holding everything together.
When it comes down to it though, the appeal of a GTA game has never been the story which is why I think it's unfair to compare it to Mafia, a game where the narrative is without a doubt it's prime directive.
The Mafia team set out to tell an awesome mob story which just happened to be told inside an open world setting, something that it honestly didn't need to use. The game would have worked just as well as a level by level action game with driving and shooting elements. The open world thing is largely cosmetic. I couldn't say the same thing about GTA. The open world is what MAKES the GTA experience, not the story. That's why I could never compare the two. Apples and Oranges.
To me both games series are worlds apart in what they are trying to achieve. Mafia used the open world setting to tell a tightly scripted story, where as GTA is using the open world because... well, it's GTA.
The one thing that I'd be interested to see in the future is whether both series can lift their game in the areas which function in the periphery. That is, will GTA: Next put more effort into telling a better plotted and paced story? And will Mafia II elevate it's open world to something more than the place where you go from A to B. Personally though, I'm fine with them both the way they are.
Oh and GTpod, I was being sarcastic.
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| Capoeira wrote: | | The Mafia team set out to tell an awesome mob story which just happened to be told inside an open world setting, something that it honestly didn't need to use. The game would have worked just as well as a level by level action game with driving and shooting elements. The open world thing is largely cosmetic. I couldn't say the same thing about GTA. The open world is what MAKES the GTA experience, not the story. That's why I could never compare the two. Apples and Oranges. |
I agree, but even so I hated GTA IV's city. In my opinion it was by far the most boring iteration of Liberty City with the least interesting landmarks and locations. Even compared to Mafia, which I agree was not about the open world, it just felt so boring and bland.
My praise for GTA IV's technology mostly comes down to its physics engine, Euphoria, as well as the little attentions to detail. The way the cars move, the way characters move about the world, the variety in NPCs, the plethora of radio stations, the mobile phone. Etc etc.
But I guess thats where I was disappointed. While it had this attention to detail, it also seemed to really focus on being a lot more mature and story driven, and in those areas it failed in comparison to a game like Mafia. The gunplay was pretty rubbish, every mission devolved into the same formula, and the plot along with the characters were nothing special.
As a super gritty serious crime drama Rockstar in my opinion failed, and in doing so asked their game to be compared to similar games, as well as previous entries in the franchise. Its not a bad game by any means, and I'm no Rockstar or GTA fanboy, but after giving the game a good go and enjoying previous entries (I'm a birds-eye-view GTA fan at heart) there was no way I could agree with the supposed universal praise.
I guess, in summary, I felt GTA IV excelled in many technical areas, as well as attention to detail, but regressed in overall variety of gameplay. Some strange in-between of classic GTA sandbox and Mafia style drama, yet in my opinion dominating neither.
But as I said, to each their own, and GTA IV ranks in the top ten highest rated games of all time on GameRankings and Metacritic, so it must have done a good few things right.
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I disliked San Andreas because they changed the control schemes. The only thing that I liked were bicycles, simply because the wonky analog sticks on the Dual Shock series added to immersion instead of detracting from it.
I lost interest in GTA4 as soon as Niko started to date the second plot woman, whatever her name was. But it wasn't until after I killed Playboy that I felt the game had over stayed it's welcome.
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I'm one of the poeple who never got into San Andreas. Looked forward to it, bought it, tried twice, dumped it each time.
For me, and I don't see how this can be taken in any but the wrong way but here goes, I coulnd't identify with the main character.
A) I don't like the whole boyz n the hood setting.
B) He was an idiot with no redeeming features.
That was it for me.
A new GTA game sans social networking, would be awesome, but I'll wait and see.
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The location matters very little to me, it's all about the personnel and as far as I'm concerned, Rockstar don't disappoint. Wherever they choose, they'll make it work.
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| travers wrote: | | Benza wrote: |
Saints Row 2 was better. |
100% agree, and I've been a long time GTA fan and played thru ALL the games. Bring back the FUN, Rockstar!?! |
I also agree 100%.
Personally if the next GTA is a "mature" game like GTAIV then they can keep their game and I'll just wait for SR3.
I don't mind RDR being "mature" because it's not GTA. When I play GTA, I want childish humour and largely unrealistic gameplay with ridiculous side missions etc.
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