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Jarrod


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle Review |
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| No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle Review by Jarrod |  | | Wii Review: Revenge is a dish best served crazy. | | [View Article] |
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Jahanzeb


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:35 am Post subject: |
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awesome debut review great to have you on board  _________________
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Jeremy


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Imma gonna get this, but do you miss a lot if you haven't played the first game? I missed it on purpose, to boycott the driving around in the open world. _________________
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admeister


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, you do miss quite a lot. Not only does the story continue on fairly strongly, but there's recurring characters who won't make a lot of sense if you haven't played the first game. The open world really wasn't that bad, it was more than worth putting up with considering how good the rest of the game was (and still is). _________________
"The first person to prove that cow's milk is drinkable was very, very thirsty." - Fact Sphere.
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David No.1


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Nice review! I loved every minute of this game. There's no part in the game which isn't fun, besides one sidejob.... but is that the developer making a point? The game has so many underlying messeges that we'll probably never figure out what exactly mr suda51 was trying to get across to the player.
My personal highlight of the game: Mimmy, she's so crazy. _________________
Now Junkying: BlazBlue, Lost Odyssey, Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
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bigjimmystyle


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I also havent played the first one. I think I might give it a crack though, is it possible to find the non-gimped version in PAL? _________________
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SumAznGuy


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Nope. And the PAL version is actually the real version(Same as Japanese). They decided to add blood to US version because Ubisoft thought it would make it more appealing to play. True facts
Anyway, completely agree with your review . Even to the score. Although in my opinion the 1st game does a better story. This revenge story doesn't have as much charm compared to some of the WTF of the 1st game. That and i feel some of the ending cutscenes to some of these ranking fights feel a bit rushed/short and don't have the same feel to the ones in the 1st.
Lastly, anyone wanna sell me one of those Bonus T-shirts GAME are giving out?  _________________

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Jarrod


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| SumAznGuy wrote: | ^Nope. And the PAL version is actually the real version(Same as Japanese). They decided to add blood to US version because Ubisoft thought it would make it more appealing to play. True facts  |
I dont buy the PAL/Japanese version being the 'real' version. The only reason it lacked blood in Japan was because they have harsh censorship against violence in games. A lot of the cutscenes in NMH are shot in a way that takes into account blood sprays and dismemberments too, such as the Holly Summers end scene which doesn't make much sense unless you've got the uncensored version.
Both are good, but as far as I'm concerned NMH looks its truest when uncensored. _________________
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admeister


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I completely agree, there's no way that the Japanese version is the "real" one, there's just too much evidence in the game that points to blood being a part of it. I think it looks much better uncensored, so it's a real shame that only the censored version is available to us PAL folks. Well, even if you're unable to play the U.S version, at least the game is still good - it just loses some of its impact. _________________
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Gizmocreative


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LeonJ


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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think the first game would has been as *great* censored. Thankfully I can play the sequel without having to import and look at dodgy ways for playing it on my up-to-date firmware Wii. _________________ Shin J Leon.
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el_supraman


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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:29 am Post subject: |
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BUY THE FIRST ONE AND BUY THIS. Sales were not the best for the first its amazing that they made a second. It is the best non nintendo game on wii and is one of my favourite games well ever. I just pray they keep making these, but I just started the second shall see how this ends as an indication I guess.
ps - BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!! _________________
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SumAznGuy


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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: |
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fair enough. I meant real as in original version.
Probably should've worded it better  _________________

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Nic_231


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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Sigh
Always wanted to get into these games (loved Killer 7) but couldn't bring myself to play the censored version.
Usually I am not such a prude about gore making a game etc. but when you have a developer who considers games an artistic vision, I find it impossible to play the games they produce in anything but their full form. _________________ http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197997175012
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Jarrod


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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Give this one a go then Nic, as its uncensored. _________________
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Darkmessiah24


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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Been playing it for sometime now and it is awesome!
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Tetsuwan


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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Let's be honest... Killer 7 wasn't that good and was so stylistic people wanted to like it so it would make them feel better about their gaming as art arguments.
His DS game was self absorbed pap and the original NMH was a stupid stylised ultraviolent waggle fest. "Oh wow, i can save while pooing. How clever!"
I also feel his name Suda51 adds to his whole appeal and if he was called Satoshi people wouldn't nearly be as interested. His name compliments the artistic want we gamers want in our media form.
Perhaps I'm being overly cynical and i should applaud his uniqueness, but to me it's just an emperors clothes situation.
[Awaits flames]
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el_supraman


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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:21 am Post subject: |
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tetsuwan your entitled to your opinion, but to call it a wagglefest? you hit with A and the only waggle is the finishing hit which is more of a slash lol. Only waggle is charging the sword and you must admit that its pretty amusing _________________
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Bev PALGN Writer


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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Nice review, pretty much sums up how I feel about the game. Although was I the only one who felt like this game takes itself a little too seriously when compared the the first NMH? _________________ Check out my game, Awien Ambush
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Ka-Pom


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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Tetsuwan wrote: | | Let's be honest... Killer 7 wasn't that good and was so stylistic people wanted to like it so it would make them feel better about their gaming as art arguments. |
Nope. I love Killer7 and strongly believe games are NOT art. You know, it is possible for people to enjoy the games engaging characters, story and fun gameplay mechanics. We aren't all "Games are an art form" snobs.
Of course, I don't doubt there are morons who think its cool to like crazy games like that (Yahtzee being a perfect example of these morons)
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Jeremy


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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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^Seconded on both accounts. As much as I'd like to go on a rant about how I don't think games are art, I don't want to derail the topic
I've ordered both NMH games on the cheap from the UK last week. It's been a while since reading a review has pushed me into buying a game (laugh) _________________
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renegadesx


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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| el_supraman wrote: | | ps - BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!! |
Ummm, what he said.
Played, clocked, wowed _________________
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