| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| How do you pronounce PALGN. |
| PAL G N |
|
92% |
[ 112 ] |
| Palgyn |
|
7% |
[ 9 ] |
|
| Total Votes : 121 |
|
| Author |
Message |
kaboose
Status: Offline
Joined: 21 Apr 2008
Posts: 59
$poons: 7.60
Location: Scone, Upper Hunter Valley, NSW
|
 Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
 |
|
PAL-gen 
_________________
Australia's up and coming new MW2 clan, Believe the Hype. Join today!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
genxevo
Status: Offline
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
Posts: 1680
$poons: 233.60
Location: Melb
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
pal-gun
pal-jen
pal-gen
pal-gine
i'm gonna assume that the people pronouncing this site the above are people with less than 500 posts (and make an assumption based on that assumption that those people would mostly likely be no older than 17 with a few outliers who are older)
its pronounced 'Pal-Jee-En' people!!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
B-Zero
Banned User
Status: Offline
Joined: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 85
$poons: 24.40
Location: Through the secret door...
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| genxevo wrote: | pal-gun
i'm gonna assume that the people pronouncing this site the above are people with less than 500 posts (and make an assumption based on that assumption that those people would mostly likely be no older than 17 with a few outliers who are older)
|
Well that would be a very ignorant assumption wouldnt it?
To assume peoples behaviour based on a milestone number of posts is quite ridiculous... Then to 'assume' that these such people are under a specific age is increasingly stupid.
One would have to imagine what kind of insecurities you have with people who have less posts than you, or are younger than 17...
Are people with less than 500 posts or under the age of 17 in any way inferior to your 1000 odd posts and seemingly wise old age?
_________________
Has arrived..
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
genxevo
Status: Offline
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
Posts: 1680
$poons: 233.60
Location: Melb
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
^nope not reaaly (i'm 25), just at work (and now alot of the time when i go out) i hear the younger kids shortening everything to pronounce less syllables (i don't know if its a generational thing or lazyness) and i usually didn't care, but the straw that broke the camels back was someone calling game-eF-Ay-Que-ss, game-faxs.. and then more people started using it.. then came the word 'whatevs'.. totally annoyed me
..and you are right, making baseless assumptions is quite ridiculous and stupid. i am both and more. but being more informed and educated about the issue (most-likely) won't stop me from being annoyed at this (seemingly) growing trend
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Karai Pantsu
PALGN Moderator
Status: Offline
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 10109
$poons: 29.06
Location: Melbexico
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
I have only ever heard GameFAQs pronounced as 'Game-Fax' - I really don't see anything wrong with that. I'd feel like an arse saying 'Game F A Q s', largely because it needlessly draws out the name that anyone I'd be talking to would recognise within the first third of it's being said.
That said, PALGN is PAL gee enn to me - for two reasons:
1) The 'G' and 'N' stand separate, important parts of the name and deserve to stand out
but, more importantly
2) 'GN' isn't a sound that we tend to make as a legitimate form of communication very often, and doesn't 'sound' right when being said out loud.
Yeah, that may seem contradictory - I live by reasonably fluid rules.
Edit: I can't believe I just weighed in on this, when I was asking myself why it was even a topic of discussion the other night. Like I said; fluid rules 
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
grim-one
Status: Offline
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Posts: 6646
$poons: 1567.30
Location: Perth
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| genxevo wrote: | | ^... shortening everything to pronounce less syllables and i usually didn't care, but the straw that broke the camels back was someone calling game-eF-Ay-Que-ss, game-faxs.. and then more people started using it.. then came the word 'whatevs'.. totally annoyed me |
I won't comment on "whatevs" (never heard someone say that before) but being in the Tech industry and dealing with a veritable alphabet soup of acronyms everyday, I can say I've heard FAQs pronounced 'fax' a lot. The problem with acronyms is they do contain a lot of syllables and get very unwieldy to pronounce correctly. We generally find some word that approximates the acronym and stick to that unless talking to external people. For example WSH could be pronounced 'whoosh'.
It's funny we're having this discussion when PALGN is really pee - ay - ell - gee - en and no one is even remotely debating the 'pal' part =)
_________________
Steam:grim_one | PSN/Live:najakh | Flickr
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Karai Pantsu
PALGN Moderator
Status: Offline
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 10109
$poons: 29.06
Location: Melbexico
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
Whatcha saying there, pal? The 'PAL' in PALGN means friend, or buddy... right? 'Cause we're all friends here... right, guys?
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kurupt
Status: Offline
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 1140
$poons: 211.10
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| genxevo wrote: | pal-gun
pal-jen
pal-gen
pal-gine
i'm gonna assume that the people pronouncing this site the above are people with less than 500 posts (and make an assumption based on that assumption that those people would mostly likely be no older than 17 with a few outliers who are older)
its pronounced 'Pal-Jee-En' people!! |
Assuming makes an ass of u and me.
22, 750.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mathonyst
Status: Offline
Joined: 11 Apr 2008
Posts: 108
$poons: 14.20
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| genxevo wrote: | | i hear the younger kids shortening everything to pronounce less syllables (i don't know if its a generational thing or lazyness) and i usually didn't care, but the straw that broke the camels back was someone calling game-eF-Ay-Que-ss, game-faxs.. and then more people started using it.. then came the word 'whatevs'.. totally annoyed me |
I only do it because all of my friends use them so much, It just stays in your general vocabulary, and seems normal..
I hate that, I hate all the unneeded abbreviations people have made.
And I really you say things mostly because of how you first were told it, I was originally told 'Palgen'
I only realised it was pronounced 'Pal-Gee-En' When I started listening to the podcast.
rant rant rant.
_________________
Dropbear + Admeister are awesome 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Brendan
Status: Offline
Joined: 17 Mar 2002
Posts: 3794
$poons: 6.00
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
PALgyn? Really?
...
Really?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
He need to cut the ego.
Status: Offline
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
Posts: 1762
$poons: 722.80
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
PALgyn sounds a bit like pagan...
I knew this place was a front!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
genxevo
Status: Offline
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
Posts: 1680
$poons: 233.60
Location: Melb
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| Karai Pantsu wrote: | | I have only ever heard GameFAQs pronounced as 'Game-Fax' - I really don't see anything wrong with that... |
the problem i had with that is when customers were looking for a game guide that didn't exist, or hints for a particular section game that their child was stuck in, i'd tell them about gamefaqs.
other younger staff did that and said "go to w-w-w-dot-game-fax-dot-com" then sent them on their merry way. about 20% of the time customers come/callback saying it didn't work (for obvious reasons) and it got annoying
anyways it still happened after i 'trained them' on the correct way to say it to customers, and as more new younger staff came in
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kurupt
Status: Offline
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 1140
$poons: 211.10
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
|
tell them to use Google then? Searching gamefax results in the top 2 results being Gamefaqs.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
grim-one
Status: Offline
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Posts: 6646
$poons: 1567.30
Location: Perth
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Karai Pantsu
PALGN Moderator
Status: Offline
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 10109
$poons: 29.06
Location: Melbexico
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| genxevo wrote: | | Karai Pantsu wrote: | | I have only ever heard GameFAQs pronounced as 'Game-Fax' - I really don't see anything wrong with that... |
the problem i had with that is when customers were looking for a game guide that didn't exist, or hints for a particular section game that their child was stuck in, i'd tell them about gamefaqs.
other younger staff did that and said "go to w-w-w-dot-game-fax-dot-com" then sent them on their merry way. about 20% of the time customers come/callback saying it didn't work (for obvious reasons) and it got annoying
anyways it still happened after i 'trained them' on the correct way to say it to customers, and as more new younger staff came in |
Which is why somebody with even a small amount of common sense would spell out the website address, rather than rely on the customer to interpret their pronunciation of an abbreviation. TL:DR -- your workmates are fools.
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
LeonJ
Status: Offline
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Posts: 10312
$poons: 1868.80
Location: Grand Line
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
My Mrs always gives me shit saying "Are you on that nerd site PAL-GYN again?'.
_________________
Shin J Leon.
XBL - LeonJ
PSN - LeonJ
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Fetidchimp
Status: Offline
Joined: 02 Jul 2007
Posts: 8666
$poons: 60.20
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
I would take that as the green light to start going to manly sites like milf.com and showusyaclacker.org
_________________
kill, kill, kill.....the white man. Kill the white man, kill
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
subbastard
Status: Offline
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Posts: 1306
$poons: 432.00
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
I use a silent G. So it's PAL-N for me. Dunno why. Just do.
_________________
I'd be apathetic, but I can't be arsed.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
genxevo
Status: Offline
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
Posts: 1680
$poons: 233.60
Location: Melb
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| Karai Pantsu wrote: | | -- your workmates are fools. |
yes they are, which makes me bitter, but i'll keep on hiring the kids that infuriate me with words like "whatevs" because they are dirt cheap (taking advantage of the school-leaver at $9 per hour ftw!)
Back to the main point it annoys me that there seems to be a growing trend of saying less syllables. I know there is no set rule, because i'm happy for people to say DNA instead on deoxy-something-something-acid, but here is an example when it annoys me (from about a month ago):
Customer: Where is the rest of your 'I' stuff?
Me: Err.. no we don't sell glasses or contacts here
Customer: No i mean 'I' as in ipod
Me: Yeah just down the left at portables
Customer: I looked there and couldn't find Snow leopard
Me: You mean Apple software?
Customer: Yeah, 'I' stuff...
Me: *sigh*
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JmiYeo
Status: Offline
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 487
$poons: 154.20
Location: Melbourne
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| genxevo wrote: |
Customer: Where is the rest of your 'I' stuff?
Me: Err.. no we don't sell glasses or contacts here
Customer: No i mean 'I' as in ipod
Me: Yeah just down the left at portables
Customer: I looked there and couldn't find Snow leopard
Me: You mean Apple software?
Customer: Yeah, 'I' stuff...
Me: *sigh* |
That's why I cannot be in any sort of customer services. I would have said
"My good sir. May I suggest you head to the optometrist on the next corner. It is clear that your eyesight is as bad as your intelligence. At least there is a product to solve your bad sight but there is no cure for stupidity."
_________________
「貧乳はステータスだ！希少価値だ！」 - 泉 こなた
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kurupt
Status: Offline
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 1140
$poons: 211.10
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| genxevo wrote: | | Karai Pantsu wrote: | | -- your workmates are fools. |
yes they are, which makes me bitter, but i'll keep on hiring the kids that infuriate me with words like "whatevs" because they are dirt cheap (taking advantage of the school-leaver at $9 per hour ftw!)
Back to the main point it annoys me that there seems to be a growing trend of saying less syllables. I know there is no set rule, because i'm happy for people to say DNA instead on deoxy-something-something-acid, but here is an example when it annoys me (from about a month ago):
Customer: Where is the rest of your 'I' stuff?
Me: Err.. no we don't sell glasses or contacts here
Customer: No i mean 'I' as in ipod
Me: Yeah just down the left at portables
Customer: I looked there and couldn't find Snow leopard
Me: You mean Apple software?
Customer: Yeah, 'I' stuff...
Me: *sigh* |
I think that's more the fact Apple owners are retarded.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Fly
Status: Offline
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Posts: 1774
$poons: 250.40
Location: Melbourne
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
Acronyms being what they are in the English language would denote a PAL- Gee - Enn inference much like COPA ends up being pig, I mean Coppar. Similarly then, GameFAQS (note capitalisation) and the fact that FAQ's itself is an abbreviation, would share a similar inference in Game- Eff - Ay? - Queues.
Shorthanding this or otherwise butchering this based on common trends and what may constitute as teenage slang to the aforementioned Gamefax or PALgun / Palgin, it iz b 2 l8 yez? Only makes other people want to punch you in the face to break your jaw so that you can no longer butcher the language you claim to speak.
You know something like an FAQ involves questions, that have some manner of frequency, which means reoccurring, this does not constitute a fax, which is in effect a medium of transference as questions are not wholly delivered in faxes. This is why the analogy fails and this is why my ears bleed.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
grim-one
Status: Offline
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Posts: 6646
$poons: 1567.30
Location: Perth
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| JmiYeo wrote: | | "At least there is a product to solve your bad sight but there is no cure for stupidity." |
| subbastard wrote: | | I use a silent G. So it's PAL-N for me. Dunno why. Just do. |
_________________
Steam:grim_one | PSN/Live:najakh | Flickr
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sin Ogaris
Status: Offline
Joined: 05 Dec 2005
Posts: 10616
$poons: 1588.60
Location: Melbourne
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
| Fly wrote: | Acronyms being what they are in the English language would denote a PAL- Gee - Enn inference much like COPA ends up being pig, I mean Coppar. Similarly then, GameFAQS (note capitalisation) and the fact that FAQ's itself is an abbreviation, would share a similar inference in Game- Eff - Ay? - Queues.
Shorthanding this or otherwise butchering this based on common trends and what may constitute as teenage slang to the aforementioned Gamefax or PALgun / Palgin, it iz b 2 l8 yez? Only makes other people want to punch you in the face to break your jaw so that you can no longer butcher the language you claim to speak.
You know something like an FAQ involves questions, that have some manner of frequency, which means reoccurring, this does not constitute a fax, which is in effect a medium of transference as questions are not wholly delivered in faxes. This is why the analogy fails and this is why my ears bleed.
|
So, RADAR, LASER, QANTAS... by your logic NONE of these should be said as words as they aren't, they're acronyms?
Also, on the topic of FAQ's (technically speaking this should never be pluralised as it's an acronym for "Frequently Asked Questions", pluralising it results in a double plural and the end of the Universe as we know it... or not) I pronounce FAQ as a word, just like a myriad of other acronyms (some aforementioned), that word is "fack" now consider this sentence pronounced both ways and tell me which you think sounds "right".
Sentence: I read it in a FAQ.
Way 1: I read it in a fack.
Way 2: I read it in a Frequently Asked Questions.
Just in case you didn't pick up on it, I'll let you in on the secret... the second one is butchering the English language much worse than the first one.
The reason PalGN shouldn't be pronounced "Palgyn" is because GN doesn't really denote a standard english sound, lack of vowels tends to do this. And hell, again going by the "spelling out acronyms is the devil" system of word pronunciation it shouldn't even be pronounced "pal" anyway.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sinthesys
Status: Offline
Joined: 15 Aug 2007
Posts: 2968
$poons: 58.00
Location: Perth
|
| Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
Some words are acronyms, but not all acronyms are words. In the case of FAQ, you'd say:
I read it in an 'eff ay kyoo'.
It dentotes that you are talking about an acroynym, not just slang or abbreviated words, and also, that is how the term is known (it's not a fack, its an F.A.Q.). Saying all acronyms as words, not just the ones that are universally understood as words, is innaccurate in speech due to the fact that you don't highlight that a certain word is an acronym by spelling it out letter for letter, and thus can become confusing. Also, unless the acronym is designed to be pronounced as a single word, like some corporate speak or RADAR etc, it is unweildly and imprecise to pronounce. Due to the misunderstandings and foreign pronounciation it causes saying acronyms as words, the time taken to explain/correct this completely undermines the reason for using the acronym in the first place: to save time and make a sentece flow better.
Therefore, given PAL already has its own meaning, the logical way to go about pronouncing it would be:
Pal-Gee-En.
Accept no substitutes.
_________________
GT: Da Herbalist - Keep on Choppin'
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
